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#EnforceTheSubpoenas (Original Post) FelineOverlord Oct 2021 OP
I guess the 81 million who voted against the tyrant are tired of being ignored? kentuck Oct 2021 #1
Off to the greatest page malaise Oct 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Oct 2021 #3
K&R... spanone Oct 2021 #4
This really is the first test of just how forceful PRETZEL Oct 2021 #5
They will Traildogbob Oct 2021 #7
Why would they do that? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #16
It was just a joke Traildogbob Oct 2021 #30
This. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #13
Not one day should go by on this! Ohioboy Oct 2021 #6
K&R 2naSalit Oct 2021 #8
I also hope we get on it NOW bluestarone Oct 2021 #9
K&R. nt DLevine Oct 2021 #10
I expect to hear today that the Committee has made a criminal referral to the Justice Dept. kentuck Oct 2021 #11
I hope so also, PRETZEL Oct 2021 #14
I don't think it is necessarily so much about "executive privilege" as it is... kentuck Oct 2021 #19
It's definately about Meadows and Scavino PRETZEL Oct 2021 #24
Good points. kentuck Oct 2021 #26
There are plenty of vacancies in our nation's jails right now. 70sEraVet Oct 2021 #12
If they were minority folk they would already be in jail. Augiedog Oct 2021 #15
They are "minority folk" of a different kind. wnylib Oct 2021 #20
K&R UCmeNdc Oct 2021 #17
After this let's trend something to #Indicte Trump & Company Merrick! Dustlawyer Oct 2021 #18
I have a sinking feeling Garland won't do much. triron Oct 2021 #22
He probably just needs a little nudge? kentuck Oct 2021 #27
Kicking,,, nt Hotler Oct 2021 #21
Retweeted. nt Tommymac Oct 2021 #23
No, I don't propose to rant about something that I don't know is an issue... brooklynite Oct 2021 #25
EXACTLY! ShazzieB Oct 2021 #35
Not sure if I heard this correctly from the Brian Williams show last night, RicROC Oct 2021 #28
I think they will wait until this time next week to see if they show up in person... kentuck Oct 2021 #29
Arrest all of them!!! marieo1 Oct 2021 #31
Arrest all of them!!! marieo1 Oct 2021 #32
Susan MacDougal. Lock 'em up! nt Baltimike Oct 2021 #33
Merrick Garland will go down as a historic figure. Jon King Oct 2021 #34
At this point sellitman Oct 2021 #37
To the klink with these kooks Blue Owl Oct 2021 #36
kick kentuck Oct 2021 #38

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
1. I guess the 81 million who voted against the tyrant are tired of being ignored?
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 08:33 AM
Oct 2021

If there is no justice, there is no democracy.

Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
5. This really is the first test of just how forceful
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 08:49 AM
Oct 2021

the committee intends to be.

We've heard over and over that the committee will not stand for having their subpoenas ignored. Well their first round of subpoenas have been ignored.

The longer they drag their feet on a response, the less credibility they start to show.

Time to put a bite behind that bark.

Traildogbob

(8,706 posts)
7. They will
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 08:56 AM
Oct 2021

Meet with McConnell and extend the deadline until December. And keep saying Mitch Folded 🤬

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,000 posts)
16. Why would they do that?
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 09:43 AM
Oct 2021

Oh, you’re bashing Democrats. Because you don’t understand that McConnell has nothing to do with the House!

Traildogbob

(8,706 posts)
30. It was just a joke
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:53 AM
Oct 2021

Damn🥱 I was just sarcastically relating the delay to the debt ceiling kicked down the street a month and shouting to the skies we smacked Mitch down. There are certainly two Dems, needing a bit of bashing. FFS.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
11. I expect to hear today that the Committee has made a criminal referral to the Justice Dept.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 09:05 AM
Oct 2021

Holding Mark Meadows and Dan Scavino accountable is not the same as holding Donald Trump accountable. Trump is setting a trap for himself if that is what he believes?

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
14. I hope so also,
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 09:25 AM
Oct 2021

the criminal referrals may finally put to the test some of the things that have been discussed here over the last few weeks.

This may finally put to the test the legality of former Presidents being able to claim executive privilege. Those discussions were very informative especially as they referred to Meadows and Scavino.

It may also put to the test of whether political operatives, and in this regard, I'm not sure if Bannon was a political operative or staff member during his time at the White House. If a President can claim immunity for political discussions as it relates to a re-election campaign then it would seem to me that politics and governance become one and the same.

As for Kash Patel, he's in no mans land. And if I were the attorney who advised him not to comply without them formally representing Patel, I would think I would be somewhat worried about a possible ethics violation.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
19. I don't think it is necessarily so much about "executive privilege" as it is...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 09:57 AM
Oct 2021

...in claiming "executive privilege" during a criminal investigation?

It would set no precedent for claiming "executive privilege", in my opinion.

There could be future cases where executive privilege might be considered more legitimate?

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
24. It's definately about Meadows and Scavino
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:24 AM
Oct 2021

claiming executive priviledge. Without that, their only avenues are to either tell the truth or claim fifth amendment rights. They were direct reports to Trump which I think is a totally different situation from Bannon and Patel.

The point I was hoping to make was mostly about Bannon and any legitimate claims he may think he has. If Bannon is allowed to claim priviledge and it is uphelp, then I think the lines of political conversations held a sitting President at the time they occurred being covered under executive priviledge would be dangerous.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
26. Good points.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:38 AM
Oct 2021

Also, the former guy's claim of "executive privilege" is in contradiction to the present guy's claim of no executive privilege in this matter.

Does a former president's claim outweigh the present occupant in the White House?

70sEraVet

(3,483 posts)
12. There are plenty of vacancies in our nation's jails right now.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 09:05 AM
Oct 2021

Covid has freed up a lot of space.
As it says in the Motel 6 commercials, "We'll leave the light on for ya"!

wnylib

(21,417 posts)
20. They are "minority folk" of a different kind.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:04 AM
Oct 2021

Their agenda as the political minority in the country is to hold onto power in order to prevent the other minority from having any political or human rights.

brooklynite

(94,480 posts)
25. No, I don't propose to rant about something that I don't know is an issue...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:34 AM
Oct 2021

Setting aside the fact that Twitter hashtags aren't going to convince the Jan 6 Committee to do anything, I have no reason to assume that the Committee WON'T enforce the subpoenas and that the DOJ won't assist. I don't care what happened to subpoenas during the Trump Administration. This is the Biden Administration.

ShazzieB

(16,350 posts)
35. EXACTLY!
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 04:47 PM
Oct 2021

Thanks for this.

I am MASSIVELY tired of people assuming that Garland isn't doing anything just because they haven't been personally informed of his plans/activities/agenda. I rarely comment on those posts anymore, because I'm sick and tired of typing the same thing over and over.

We are not SUPPOSED to know every detail of what the DOJ is doing. I know four years of the Chump administration have taken a toll on some people's ability to trust anything the federal government does, but at some point, we all need to get beyond that and get it through our heads that Biden is not Chump, and Merrick Garland is not Bill Barr.

RicROC

(1,204 posts)
28. Not sure if I heard this correctly from the Brian Williams show last night,
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:45 AM
Oct 2021

but refusal to comply with subpoenas from congress is a lesser violation, like a civil infraction. BUT if they then fail to appear for depositions next week, then that's another higher crime, more of a felony.

So, if the committee waits a few more days to let these 4 'gentlemen' dig their deeper graves, I'm willing to wait these extra days.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
29. I think they will wait until this time next week to see if they show up in person...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:47 AM
Oct 2021

..before they put the hammer down.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
31. Arrest all of them!!!
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 11:09 AM
Oct 2021

I am a born and raised USA citizen..........why, oh, why can't they just arrest all of the January 6th traitors. If any one of the rest of us did that or anything lesser we'd be in jail for a long time. How can these criminals get off scot free? Please someone, give us some answers.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
32. Arrest all of them!!!
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 11:10 AM
Oct 2021

I am a born and raised USA citizen..........why, oh, why can't they just arrest all of the January 6th traitors. If any one of the rest of us did that or anything lesser we'd be in jail for a long time. How can these criminals get off scot free? Please someone, give us some answers.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
34. Merrick Garland will go down as a historic figure.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 11:27 AM
Oct 2021

One way or another. He could go all in on prosecuting the traitors, or decide to be minimally involved. Either way he will be a very important figure when the history of this is told to future generations.

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
37. At this point
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 08:28 PM
Oct 2021

I suspect he is one of them.

We always knew he was on the Conservative side.

Looks like now we have proof.

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