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brooklynite

(94,366 posts)
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:19 PM Oct 2021

To those who've decided to rant about people refusing Congressional subpoenas...

...and demanding that the Committee do something TODAY!!! RIGHT NOW!!!

Sorry to tell you that's not how it works.

First, understand that this is a CONGRESSIONAL subpoena, not a JUDICIAL subpoena. Refusal to respond to a Congressional subpoena is not grounds to indict someone in Court. The Congress can request the DOJ to administer the subpoena or attempt to do so itself.

Second, NOBODY has ignored the subpoena, because they don't have to...yet. When you receive a subpoena, you are not obliged to drop everything and catch the next plane to Washington. You are give a window of time. SAYING you'll defy the subpoena is irrelevant until you actually do. In the case of Steve Bannon, he is compelled to come before the Committee for a deposition on the 14th or 15th. If he refuses, only then will he be in contempt.

The Congressional process is similar to the criminal justice process. It proceeds on its own schedule. It doesn't rush simply because everyone "knows they're guilty".

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To those who've decided to rant about people refusing Congressional subpoenas... (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2021 OP
Thank you! Ocelot II Oct 2021 #1
Thank u for the calm clarification 😉 n/t Quakerfriend Oct 2021 #2
Merci milles fois! Mme. Defarge Oct 2021 #3
As others have said and I'll reinforce it too, thanks so much for the clarifications. NT SWBTATTReg Oct 2021 #4
We had better have the skids greased at DOJ because all subpoenas are about to be ignored. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #5
Thank you! Please please teach civics in high school again! redstatebluegirl Oct 2021 #6
I'll rant -- they have REFUSED THE SUBPOENAS -- deadline for DOCUMENTS passes today JT45242 Oct 2021 #7

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. We had better have the skids greased at DOJ because all subpoenas are about to be ignored.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:33 PM
Oct 2021

If Garland is not prepared to arrest the miscreants, we will have wasted our patience yet again.

Forgive my skepticism. We've seen this play out numerous times.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
6. Thank you! Please please teach civics in high school again!
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:48 PM
Oct 2021

People are totally ignorant about how our system works.

JT45242

(2,251 posts)
7. I'll rant -- they have REFUSED THE SUBPOENAS -- deadline for DOCUMENTS passes today
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:05 PM
Oct 2021

They are already in contempt because they defied the documentation deadline.

You are correct in that they would have a window of time to appear in person.

They WERE (past tense) already given a window of tie to comply with the documents subpoena and they are openly defying it. They are pretty sure that the Dems will be as spineless as they were with Ollie North, Reagan, and all of both Bushes criminals.

So, yes -- it is OK to rant. The documents are what will be most damning anyway.

They would only lie or claim the 5th on the stand.

The documents would prove (1) what they did leading up to, on, and covering up Jan 6 (2) That they lied under oath (3) What TFG actually said and did

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