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Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:38 PM Oct 2021

Can former guys under investigation for criminal activity run for president in this country?

I'm just curious when it comes to how much a person charged with crimes gets to be taken seriously when it comes to the highest office in the land.

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Can former guys under investigation for criminal activity run for president in this country? (Original Post) Ohioboy Oct 2021 OP
Yes. You can run even from inside prison. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2021 #1
That seems so absurd to me Ohioboy Oct 2021 #4
The only way to make a person illegible to run for president again is to be convicted and removed Claustrum Oct 2021 #12
Too bad the presidency has become all about the marketing, and not about character Ohioboy Oct 2021 #14
Unfortunately, a felon can run for President..sickening! PortTack Oct 2021 #2
In other words... Ohioboy Oct 2021 #11
The President has no power to pardon state crimes, only federal ones. Klaralven Oct 2021 #15
Thank you. You are correct! Ohioboy Oct 2021 #18
true, but the scotus would allow him to leave jail getagrip_already Oct 2021 #19
Not many laws, if any, against it. It's up to the voters to stop the crook. TreasonousBastard Oct 2021 #3
Or In TFG's Case, Support Him Willingly nt SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #6
When I think of our future in the hands of republican voters I shutter. Ohioboy Oct 2021 #7
There is nothing in the Constitution or other laws prohibiting it. Ocelot II Oct 2021 #5
How convenient for any criminal that might win from prison Ohioboy Oct 2021 #9
Honestly, I Think TFG Could Still Get 40%+ Of The Vote, Post-Conviction, Running From Prison nt SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #8
I think if he is convicted and go to jail for something serious, that number should be in the Claustrum Oct 2021 #10
How about the mob-styled shakedown calls to Georgia? ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2021 #13
As much as you and I would disagree with their assessments, the two situations are different. Claustrum Oct 2021 #16
Eventually both Al Capone snd John Gotti went down. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2021 #17

BlueTsunami2018

(3,491 posts)
1. Yes. You can run even from inside prison.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:40 PM
Oct 2021

Charles Manson could have run for President. Lyndon LaRouche did run while in prison.

All you have to be is 35 and a natural born citizen.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
12. The only way to make a person illegible to run for president again is to be convicted and removed
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:54 PM
Oct 2021

from presidency by the senate. We failed to do that thanks to republicans.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
14. Too bad the presidency has become all about the marketing, and not about character
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:56 PM
Oct 2021

Get enough crazy voters and you're in.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
11. In other words...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:52 PM
Oct 2021

Trump could have shot someone on 5th Ave., run from prison; and if he'd won he could have pardoned himself? Something tells me the Founding Fathers never thought a guy like Trump was possible.

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
19. true, but the scotus would allow him to leave jail
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 04:49 PM
Oct 2021

to run the country. And, at the very least, he would have the secret service remove him for his "safety".

It sounds like a lock, but we would be in entirely uncharted waters and the power of the potus would prevail over any state claim.

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
5. There is nothing in the Constitution or other laws prohibiting it.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:42 PM
Oct 2021

You have to be at least 35 and a natural-born citizen, that's it. The voters have to decide whether to take that candidate seriously. Anyhow, on account of the presumption of innocence, just being charged or investigated isn't the same as being guilty. If a person has been convicted of a serious crime, however, being in prison could throw a spanner in the works wrt his campaign. It's been done, but not successfully.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
9. How convenient for any criminal that might win from prison
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:45 PM
Oct 2021

they could just pardon themselves right out of prison!

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
10. I think if he is convicted and go to jail for something serious, that number should be in the
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:51 PM
Oct 2021

20%. Problem is, is there any convincing evidence (something like the Nixon tapes) and can we expose it to the public? My rational side tells me the chance of that happening is slim to none.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
13. How about the mob-styled shakedown calls to Georgia?
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:55 PM
Oct 2021

Threats to Election officials? That is what the Fulton County DA is going on.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
16. As much as you and I would disagree with their assessments, the two situations are different.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 04:10 PM
Oct 2021

Nixon clearly lied about his involvement in Watergate only to have a tape clearly showing his involvement in planning and executing Watergate.

Trump did all of the questioning of the election in the open and his call, while we categorize it a shakedown (and it's very much so in a gangster sense), Trump never directly say to overtake the capitol or to become violent. Gangsters always say these things in code words and that's exactly what Trump did. But in order to prove his guilt or shift public opinion, we would need a conversation from Trump that says explicitly to create new ballots for republicans out of thin air. Right now, the RW media and independent are excusing Trump because his word is simply that he believe there is foul play in GA and he wants to election officials to "find" the faulty ballots and give the win back to Trump.

Same thing with 1/6, I believe Trump incited them to go there but in order to prove him guilty legally, you have to find evidence of him saying to hang Mike Pence, or kill Nancy Pelosi to get a criminal charge on Trump. He has done this for years and he and his goons know enough to not say those things out and use codewords like "fight" but never directly say kill someone. Unfortunately, 1/6 is a public opinion fight rather than a criminal charge that some people want. I really want to be wrong but that's how I see it.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
17. Eventually both Al Capone snd John Gotti went down.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 04:15 PM
Oct 2021

You just might be right.

It will be other things that take Trump down and for good.

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