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"Joe Biden says Kyrsten Sinema is ignoring his calls -- but she talks to Mitch McConnell" (Original Post) tblue37 Oct 2021 OP
Arizona Democrsts need to start speaking up. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2021 #1
"Sinema works for the people." tblue37 Oct 2021 #6
Her turning a dear eat will cost her BIGLY... ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2021 #13
She works dalton99a Oct 2021 #14
Good God, that's how she dresses in the Senate? Show a little respect Walleye Oct 2021 #19
Yes, she hardly behaves or dresses like a senator PatSeg Oct 2021 #23
It's a damn shame. I know a lot of people worked hard to get her elected. She is betraying them Walleye Oct 2021 #32
Yes PatSeg Oct 2021 #33
Or lack of fashion sense! True Blue American Oct 2021 #35
My mom used to say, "I wouldn't wear that to a dog fight" Walleye Oct 2021 #36
What fashion sense would that be? 🤔 SammyWinstonJack Oct 2021 #47
Spends more time on her costumes than doing the people's work. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #20
I don't understand her. At all. Politicub Oct 2021 #41
1+ Good insight SunImp Oct 2021 #46
You've summed up my feelings about her very well MustLoveBeagles Oct 2021 #53
She dresses like a knockoff Lady Gaga SunImp Oct 2021 #51
I hope she will get her just desserts very soon CurtEastPoint Oct 2021 #2
Karma sooner than later. Cha Oct 2021 #49
She's earning her paycheck lark Oct 2021 #3
Just not the one the taxpayers cover. 2naSalit Oct 2021 #4
Truth! lark Oct 2021 #7
Despicable creature. dalton99a Oct 2021 #5
Timely Tweet from Axelrod.. Cha Oct 2021 #50
Mark my words - she's getting ready to switch parties Generic Brad Oct 2021 #8
That is starting to look more and more like it's the case. DFW Oct 2021 #11
Maybe that is what Turtle has promised her..... A GOP VP slot. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #22
McConnell has zero power to offer her the VP slot. former9thward Oct 2021 #25
Reality and the truth would never stop Turtle from manipulating others to do his bidding. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #26
I'm sure you are 100% right BUT bluestarone Oct 2021 #39
I agree with you. To not return calls from the WH is a clear sign that Raven Oct 2021 #15
+1 n/t area51 Oct 2021 #42
And who can blame her - the GOP has done so much good for the average citizen tenderfoot Oct 2021 #24
Bank account from 32k to a million, she has already started the new gig. sarcasmo Oct 2021 #31
I fear that you are right Polybius Oct 2021 #38
She is a mole Sanity Claws Oct 2021 #9
She's going to flip and give Reps the Senate back Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #10
She's an opportunist. For her, it's all about Krysten jalan48 Oct 2021 #12
Yeah, people tend to be like that. Steelrolled Oct 2021 #44
Moscow Mitch? Kid Berwyn Oct 2021 #16
Sorry, Joe. She's just not into you' SYFROYH Oct 2021 #17
She's not into the people that voted for her either tenderfoot Oct 2021 #27
my huge worry is IF Breyer decides to retire in say June if 2022, will Sinema and Manchin Celerity Oct 2021 #18
A pathetic woman with tragic consequences for America and its citizens. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #21
She and Manchin: two dirty corruptible peas in a stinky pod. ananda Oct 2021 #28
I keep hoping Biden can reach her. BeckyDem Oct 2021 #29
It's looking I like Bill Price may have purchased a senator dlk Oct 2021 #30
Disgusting Blue Owl Oct 2021 #34
She is seriously getting off on this. budkin Oct 2021 #37
Where are all the SineManchin defenders at? SunImp Oct 2021 #40
Sounds like schoolyard gossip Steelrolled Oct 2021 #43
DNC can just pull from her. Corgigal Oct 2021 #45
What kind of person does that? Ignores Cha Oct 2021 #48
The bribe line is open. moondust Oct 2021 #52

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
13. Her turning a dear eat will cost her BIGLY...
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:28 AM
Oct 2021

From what I have read, she has not held any constituent outreach meetings, or made any attempts to reach out to the people.

Her behavior towards those who ask questions and need answers of her positions is telling.

Walleye

(31,013 posts)
19. Good God, that's how she dresses in the Senate? Show a little respect
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:08 AM
Oct 2021

I certainly hope she respects ethics and honesty more than she respects the institution. obviously she thinks it’s someplace to show off her fashion sense.

PatSeg

(47,410 posts)
23. Yes, she hardly behaves or dresses like a senator
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:40 AM
Oct 2021

The disrespect for the institution is appalling. I guess for her, it is just a job and an opportunity to get media attention. Saturday Night Live did an excellent impersonation of Sinema last Saturday. This is not a serious person.

PatSeg

(47,410 posts)
33. Yes
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 12:02 PM
Oct 2021

It appears she fooled an awful lot of good decent people, people she won't even talk to now. What a disgraceful scam artist. It appears she really doesn't believe in much of anything aside from Kyrsten Sinema.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
41. I don't understand her. At all.
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 01:54 PM
Oct 2021

Last edited Sun Oct 10, 2021, 04:07 PM - Edit history (1)

That's what worries me more about Sinema compared to Manchin. And it gives a feeling of helplessness.

Manchin is an old school politician in the worst sense of the word. He is Lieberman-esque in that way. It doesn't make him less frustrating and his actions less stressful. But it does help me with understanding why he does what he does. He does things to enrich himself and his family. That's not unique among people. Leopard, stripes and all that jazz.

Sinema, otoh, scares me. I don't see Manchin switching parties or anything. His politician-ness is more straightforward. His 100 percent voting record with the dems this term is a fig leaf to cover his votes to not allow legislation to move forward. However, he is not irrational in his worldview.

Sinema does strike me as someone who is dealing with something in a very public way. I don't know what that is. It's not just fashion choices -- it's actions that are inflammatory, too. Her bizarre curtsy and cheerleader drag when she voted down the minimum wage increase was done to inflame people in her party. Why? Irrational acts rarely have a rational cause.

She has started digging in her heels even harder. At least we were able to get a few judges confirmed and pieces of legislation through reconciliation, though.

Sigh.

SunImp

(2,224 posts)
46. 1+ Good insight
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 02:53 PM
Oct 2021

She is definitely loving the media attention and all the power she is getting right now. Her Donors and Republican friends seem to have significant sway on her actions and what she has been doing these last few years. I feel like she will flip R next year

MustLoveBeagles

(11,592 posts)
53. You've summed up my feelings about her very well
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 09:28 PM
Oct 2021

I don't enjoy criticizing Democrats but in rare cases such as this one it's justified. I don't really care about her appearance so much as her attitude. I think she enjoys throwing her weight around too much and she's displays complete contempt for her Democratic colleagues and the voters. While I don't condone people following her into the bathroom and grilling her while she's using the facilities I can also understand why they were desperate enough to try. I think if she'd held some town halls or been the slightest bit responsive to the people who voted for her the whole situation could've been avoided. I've come to the conclusion that she's in it for herself.

Manchin's at least predictable and as much as he angers me sometimes, I can't turn on him completely. He was one of the few Democrats who publicly supported Al Franken when he was railroaded.

SunImp

(2,224 posts)
51. She dresses like a knockoff Lady Gaga
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 03:33 PM
Oct 2021

The real Lady Gaga has more class and style than this wannabee

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
8. Mark my words - she's getting ready to switch parties
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:14 AM
Oct 2021

She will single handedly kill the Biden agenda and walk away with a guaranteed high paying lobbyist gig. That's clearly the path she is on.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
11. That is starting to look more and more like it's the case.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:22 AM
Oct 2021

Unless she has some hidden agenda within the Democratic Party that only Joe Manchin and Chuck Schumer know about, I'd say she is looking for some serious clandestine financial subsidizing as well as a possible VP spot on the 2024 Republican ticket if the nominee's name is not Trump.

I'm really hoping for the hidden agenda, but I have to confess that I haven't the faintest clue what that might be. I hope the Arizona Democrats have a LONG video archive of her making speeches where she says things that will sink any chances she has of future elective office as a Republican.

Irish_Dem

(46,933 posts)
22. Maybe that is what Turtle has promised her..... A GOP VP slot.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:24 AM
Oct 2021

Interesting idea, and I think you are correct that McConnell has made some big promises.

Her driving motivations seem to be attention, fame and money. So the VP slot fits.

But it seems ill fated, the GOP will never trust her, and the Dems hate her.
Doesn't seem like she has much of a national ticket future.

But perhaps she is not able to see that, and is buying whatever McConnell is selling.

former9thward

(31,984 posts)
25. McConnell has zero power to offer her the VP slot.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:58 AM
Oct 2021

He is not going to be the nominee and whoever is owes nothing to him.

Irish_Dem

(46,933 posts)
26. Reality and the truth would never stop Turtle from manipulating others to do his bidding.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 11:01 AM
Oct 2021

I don't mean that Turtle would ever be the GOP presidential nominee.

I mean he would run his mouth and make promises for political and personal gain.

The post I was responding to made some interesting points about this and I was responding to it.

bluestarone

(16,911 posts)
39. I'm sure you are 100% right BUT
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 01:37 PM
Oct 2021

SHE might be dumb ass enough to believe everything that asshole tells her. Along with MANY more RETHUGS feeding her the SAME BULLSHIT!

Raven

(13,889 posts)
15. I agree with you. To not return calls from the WH is a clear sign that
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:35 AM
Oct 2021

she is cutting her ties to the Democratic Party. It's been pretty clear to me that she doesn't like the mundane work that a Senator has to do. She likes the spotlight, the glitz, the spas, the boozy parties. She is modelling herself after John McCain in the sense that, with one thumbs down, he killed the Republican hopes of repealing the ACA. She will do the same thing, if she can, to Biden's agenda and then she'll walk away into the arms of the lobbyists who will give her the lifestyle she's craving. She will never do an honest days' work again and that's just how she wants it.

Polybius

(15,385 posts)
38. I fear that you are right
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 01:30 PM
Oct 2021

She is a completely different case than Manchin, who likely won't switch Party's. He's always been a moderate conservative. She seems like she has an agenda.

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
9. She is a mole
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:17 AM
Oct 2021

She pretends to be a Democrat in order to get inside information but then gives it to the Republicans. I hope she is kept out of strategy meetings. The Democrats have to find a way to work around her or get her in line.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
44. Yeah, people tend to be like that.
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 02:13 PM
Oct 2021

It's all about how you go about doing it. Will be interesting to see how it turns out.

Kid Berwyn

(14,883 posts)
16. Moscow Mitch?
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:37 AM
Oct 2021

Deripaska’s Doggie?

Big rewards await in Deutsche Bank for those who go along and betray the country.

Celerity

(43,330 posts)
18. my huge worry is IF Breyer decides to retire in say June if 2022, will Sinema and Manchin
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:48 AM
Oct 2021

even support a replacement that close to the midterms? Even if they do, I cannot see either voting for a true progressive justice (to replace RBG).

Leondra Kruger (Associate Justice on the California Supreme Court) is my number one prefereed pick, but getting Manchinema to support her is going to extremely hard, especially if it is in mid-2022.


Biden says he’ll put a black woman on Supreme Court. This California justice is a leading candidate

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-04-02/biden-says-he-will-put-a-black-woman-on-supreme-court-this-california-justice-is-a-leading-candidate

WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Joe Biden has promised that if elected in November, he will appoint the first black woman to the Supreme Court — a step he called “long overdue.”
One of the leading candidates is 43-year-old California Supreme Court Justice Leondra R. Kruger. A former Justice Department lawyer who argued a dozen cases before the high court in Washington before returning to California, she is a favorite of former Obama administration lawyers and Democratic Senate advisors.

“She should be on anyone’s short list” for the Supreme Court, said Christopher Kang, a deputy counsel to Obama who oversaw the selection and vetting of 220 appointees to the federal court.

“Leondra Kruger is one of the handful of the most brilliant attorneys with whom I’ve ever worked,” said Washington attorney Neal Katyal, who was acting solicitor general during Obama’s first term. “I asked her to be my principal deputy solicitor general because I knew the advice she’d give me would be meticulous and deeply thought out, and most of all, honest: I cannot imagine a better justice.”

Kruger grew up in South Pasadena, the daughter of two pediatricians. She attended the Polytechnic School in Pasadena and earned an undergraduate degree at Harvard University and a law degree from Yale, where she served as editor in chief of the Yale Law Journal.

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Irish_Dem

(46,933 posts)
21. A pathetic woman with tragic consequences for America and its citizens.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:20 AM
Oct 2021

All for her own personal gain.

dlk

(11,558 posts)
30. It's looking I like Bill Price may have purchased a senator
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 11:39 AM
Oct 2021

It wouldn’t be the first time a wealthy donor had a Senator on speed dial.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
43. Sounds like schoolyard gossip
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 02:08 PM
Oct 2021

Fortunately, I don't think President Biden actually said this, and it is more likely just journalistic license.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
45. DNC can just pull from her.
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 02:14 PM
Oct 2021

Tell the voters in Arizona, and the country, that she doesn’t work for us anymore. We didn’t see Mitch McConnell grooming one of our guys? Guess not, and why not?

She’s not a democrat, take her funding, face facts and get a new candidate. Then we won’t look like we can’t get anything done because we own all the government, because we don’t and never did. Blow up her cover.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
48. What kind of person does that? Ignores
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 03:26 PM
Oct 2021

calls from Dem Pres Joe Biden but talks to the Fascist minority leader?


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