At times I need to check that I am actually reading posts on Democratic Underground.

[bluewater]

I think that is deliberate because it is still being sold as an "investment"

But the actual investment piece is mainly in the Infrastructure bill, and the BBB bill is mainly an increase in government expenses.

The it being the build Back Better agenda. Note the "scare" quotes around the word "investment".

And when I read this part: "the BBB bill is mainly an increase in government expenses", I cursed out loud.

I never thought that I would have to argue on Democratic Underground that investing in the social safety net to provide more opportunities for working families was indeed an INVESTMENT in America, yet here I am.

I just don't know what else to say or think at this point.

[malaise]

1. Get thee to the greatest page

The truth!

[malaise]

2. Get thee to the greatest page

The truth!

[ProfessorGAC]

3. An Investment In People Is Still An Investment

Whoever posted the item that triggered your rebuttal must believe that investment can only be in tangible assets.
The companies for whom I worked paid for 3 master's degrees & a PhD.
I can assure you that those companies made investments that provided a return.
Yet, I was never a tangible asset.
Investing in people is a good plan.

[acantharchus]

4. Russian Trolls? N/T

[LakeArenal]

5. There are a lot of threads and comments that are dubious.

I have heard many things on here lately that make me wonder.

Iconic posters are stepping back, wondering where the “Be a Democrat” on DU is.

I don’t remember it being so fear mongering and not entirely respectful.

[Thtwudbeme]

7. The fear mongering is new but

The lack of respect? I miss the good old days when long time posters would practically cuss each other out.

[LakeArenal]

11. I can get cussed out plenty on FB.

I don’t need it or want it in a discussion group.

[JustAnotherGen]

10. +1

[Tommymac]

6. K & R

[stillcool]

9. I blame it on the weekend...

there's like a meeting of malcontents.

[wellst0nev0ter]

12. Exactly, who let the Reaganites onto this site?

Like I said before: either support Biden's agenda, or get out.

[UTUSN]

13. K&R

[SidDithers]

14. +1...

Reminiscent of 2008-2016.

Sid

[FakeNoose]

15. Always notify the DU overlords, my friend

They might not agree with you, but at least you have let your feelings be known.

[UTUSN]

16. But a twist on this. When I posted about needing to be hardheaded against the wingnuts, street smart

and how we have daunting odds against us,

a well-meaning DUer replied sort of accusing me of "giving up" and "not having hope." He said that the BIDEN agenda of investment and jobs would bring voters over to our side. When I said that a whole chunk of died-in-the-wool wingnuts and those who vote against their self-interest will *never* come over to our side, he sort of accused me of not believing in the investment/jobs agenda. I had to opt out of this spinning of the wheels.

Parallel trains of thought, never meeting.