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Diner Sends Back Steak Tartare Because It's Raw, Chef's Reaction Goes Viral (Original Post) Demovictory9 Oct 2021 OP
I have seen this with sushi more than once. cinematicdiversions Oct 2021 #1
I'd rather mock people. Aristus Oct 2021 #31
Punching down on those less educated is simply wrong in my eyes. Better to lift them up. cinematicdiversions Oct 2021 #32
You seem to have mistaken my disdain for stupid people for Aristus Oct 2021 #38
Lighten up, Francis Captain Stern Oct 2021 #56
I also knew what steak tartare was at an early age. xmas74 Oct 2021 #75
Let's be honest; this wasn't an order at the local diner... brooklynite Oct 2021 #39
It does serve French cuisine, though not exclusively. Raftergirl Oct 2021 #60
i enjoyed mocking trump catsudon Oct 2021 #45
I'm from the country DenaliDemocrat Oct 2021 #49
What a trashy way to think and behave. Why aren't you a Trumpster? /nt artemisia1 Oct 2021 #76
Of course. When a chef "mocks" by overcooking or refusing, Hortensis Oct 2021 #37
Tar tar isn't super well-known, so I get why it could be a misunderstanding Polybius Oct 2021 #63
The Chef should have put a slice of meatloaf on the plate, returned it to the diner, no_hypocrisy Oct 2021 #2
... Buns_of_Fire Oct 2021 #11
Waiter? This is a shoe with cheese on it. But sir, it is what you asked for! JHB Oct 2021 #24
Guess he was sold on the word Steak in the menu Woodswalker Oct 2021 #3
Something similar happened to me once Takket Oct 2021 #4
It's why I don't buy Girl Scout cookies rpannier Oct 2021 #10
It's a total scam!!! Takket Oct 2021 #12
LOL! LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #13
I rather like rambler_american Oct 2021 #17
You and Wednesday Addams. Ilsa Oct 2021 #51
That's right rpannier Oct 2021 #73
"People keep telling me the cookies taste like Grandma! They don't!" struggle4progress Oct 2021 #72
;-{)🖖 Goonch Oct 2021 #5
Never would have ordered it - Ms. Toad Oct 2021 #43
;-{)🖖 Goonch Oct 2021 #44
As long as they are dead, I enjoy eggs. Ms. Toad Oct 2021 #46
The longer you cook scrambled eggs Goonch Oct 2021 #47
My wife won't eat fully cooked scrambled eggs. hunter Oct 2021 #58
Reminds me of this scene from Big Night Danmel Oct 2021 #6
Fantastic movie! n/t luvs2sing Oct 2021 #7
Checking streaming services Karma13612 Oct 2021 #16
It is on Paramount Plus PatSeg Oct 2021 #29
Sounds like a plan!!! Eom Karma13612 Oct 2021 #64
Stanley Tucci! LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #14
one of my all time favorite movies. mopinko Oct 2021 #15
Love it! Danmel Oct 2021 #21
I love restaurants and I really love that movie - just a finely cast, written and produced movie. marble falls Oct 2021 #25
this movie is so near and dear to me. Javaman Oct 2021 #34
An excellent example of one of the great 90s indie films. SYFROYH Oct 2021 #42
;-{)🖖 Goonch Oct 2021 #52
"...and bring us some *fresh* wine..." Buns_of_Fire Oct 2021 #8
Exactly what first came into my head when I saw the post (n/t) MissMillie Oct 2021 #23
Ha, ha, ha!!! PatSeg Oct 2021 #26
"There are snails on her plate! There are so many snails you can't even see the food!" smirkymonkey Oct 2021 #36
Ah - I missed your post (I posted the same). lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #50
I just realized the video posted what I wrote, so my post was a bit redundant, but still it was smirkymonkey Oct 2021 #71
Maybe the patron was Ray Stevens rpannier Oct 2021 #9
"My gazpacho soup is cold!" mwb970 Oct 2021 #18
Red Dwarf Shellback Squid Oct 2021 #20
Posted below! nt csziggy Oct 2021 #69
Yep. mwb970 Oct 2021 #77
What did the chef say? tavernier Oct 2021 #19
He doesn't say anything at all, he just shakes his head muriel_volestrangler Oct 2021 #61
i was at an Ethopian Resturant and ordered raw hmburger knowing exactly what it was.. samnsara Oct 2021 #22
Rare hamburger is too mushy for my taste. Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #41
Good steak tartare - and kitfo Retrograde Oct 2021 #53
Sounds like the customer didn't know what Tartare meant. fescuerescue Oct 2021 #27
In Green Pastures in Austin (home of the Yellow Dawg Democrats): "Do you have a restroom?" ... marble falls Oct 2021 #28
Did he send back his salad because it was full of plants? DFW Oct 2021 #30
I once asked for milk in my Greek Coffee at a cafe in Athens maxrandb Oct 2021 #33
Mr Bean? johnp3907 Oct 2021 #35
I ordered it in Paris, and the waitress was very concerned maxsolomon Oct 2021 #40
He doesn't realize he's dealing with sophisticated people here! lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #48
I don't understand why this is posted here, or why it went viral. milestogo Oct 2021 #54
I've seen a version in France that was partly cooked Retrograde Oct 2021 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #57
I read my wife the title of the OP, and she thought it was a great joke DFW Oct 2021 #59
Many customers in restaurants located in poor towns are uneducated Polybius Oct 2021 #62
My father used to order that stuff... WarGamer Oct 2021 #65
I think the cooked version looked better. And healthier. JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2021 #66
Gazpacho Soup! csziggy Oct 2021 #67
Waiter there's a fly in my soup. KentuckyWoman Oct 2021 #68
Lucy orders escargot -colorized version LeftInTX Oct 2021 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author Raine Oct 2021 #74
 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
1. I have seen this with sushi more than once.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 05:04 AM
Oct 2021

It is better to educate than to mock under such circumstances.

Aristus

(72,173 posts)
31. I'd rather mock people.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 10:53 AM
Oct 2021

I knew what Steak Tartare was by the time I was six. If the diner didn’t know what it is, they shouldn’t have ordered it. Once they found out the hard way what it is, they should have ordered something else.

If stupid people dislike my mockery of them, they can choose not to be stupid…

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
32. Punching down on those less educated is simply wrong in my eyes. Better to lift them up.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 11:03 AM
Oct 2021

“In my experience, insecure people constantly need to show that they are superior to others, whether they are or not, and they will often stoop to unscrupulous tactics to achieve this, the most common being to persistently mock, criticize, and put others down, the objective being to lower the status of the other person in the eyes of others, thus easing their own feelings of insecurity, and inadequacy. Secure people, on the other hand, do not have this need.”

Robert Black

Aristus

(72,173 posts)
38. You seem to have mistaken my disdain for stupid people for
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 11:54 AM
Oct 2021

insecurity.

This is not the case. I’m not the problem. The problem is with people who throw a fit over every tiny little thing in their lives that they choose not to educate themselves about.

If this was just helpless, if harmless, rage over the complexities of a world they refuse to understand, no big deal. But these people vote, and carry guns, and harass people they recognize as being better than themselves.

These people cause harm. I don’t see any value in trying to understand them and feel sympathy for them.

Captain Stern

(2,251 posts)
56. Lighten up, Francis
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 03:44 PM
Oct 2021

What happened was that somebody that didn't know exactly what Steak Tartare was, ordered it. Believe it or not, most folks don't know what Steak Tartare is when they are six years old. That's a fact.

You're confusing stupidity with ignorance.

xmas74

(30,055 posts)
75. I also knew what steak tartare was at an early age.
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 01:18 AM
Oct 2021

Then again, I grew up in Wisconsin with cannibal sandwiches during the holidays.

Still, if you're not sure what an item is, just ask the server. They'll tell you what to expect. They know that a good experience usually means a good tip and would prefer the customer get what they want the first time.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
39. Let's be honest; this wasn't an order at the local diner...
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 12:12 PM
Oct 2021

If you can afford a restaurant (likely French)that serves steak tartare, you should know what it is or have the courage to ask.

Raftergirl

(1,856 posts)
60. It does serve French cuisine, though not exclusively.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 04:40 PM
Oct 2021

Food is excellent. Surprisingly it’s located in a Hampton Inn, along with a pricey Indonesian restaurant. Here is the article from the local paper.

https://www.timesunion.com/tablehopping/article/Customer-doesn-t-want-steak-tartare-to-be-raw-16513209.php

DenaliDemocrat

(1,777 posts)
49. I'm from the country
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 03:17 PM
Oct 2021

I call mocking Trump “kicking shit”. I am also very secure in my position

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Of course. When a chef "mocks" by overcooking or refusing,
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 11:33 AM
Oct 2021

or educating in any but the most diplomatic way, and we've seen them all of course, it's not a fine restaurant. Plain and simple. And those who snear at ignorance aren't fully housetrained and should be kept out of sight and sound.

Imo, this one did a nice enough job by providing the dish requested, and with it an urbane lesson. Short of inviting the customer to choose another dish if he wished, which some fine, in the whole sense, restaurants might do.

Polybius

(21,895 posts)
63. Tar tar isn't super well-known, so I get why it could be a misunderstanding
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 05:03 PM
Oct 2021

But not knowing sushi? That's just insane. How about the job I worked at 20 years ago, lots of customers thought the prime rib was ribs!

no_hypocrisy

(54,896 posts)
2. The Chef should have put a slice of meatloaf on the plate, returned it to the diner,
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 05:46 AM
Oct 2021

and charged double.

JHB

(38,208 posts)
24. Waiter? This is a shoe with cheese on it. But sir, it is what you asked for!
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 09:30 AM
Oct 2021

Perhaps your Francais is, to say, ne bon pas, oui?

 

Woodswalker

(549 posts)
3. Guess he was sold on the word Steak in the menu
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 06:09 AM
Oct 2021

Should have been a dead giveaway when the waiter didn't ask "how would you like that done"

Takket

(23,713 posts)
4. Something similar happened to me once
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 06:18 AM
Oct 2021

I ordered a Caesar salad and there was not single piece of Caesar in it anywhere!!

I sent it back.

Ms. Toad

(38,630 posts)
43. Never would have ordered it -
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 12:42 PM
Oct 2021

But if I had, and actually tried to eat it to be polite, I'd have cleared the restaurant when the contents of my stomach hit the table.

Been there, done that, when my hosts served me partially cooked scrambled eggs, after I told them I couldn't eat the unless they were cooked to death. I tried to eat them after they went to the effort to make the eggs in a way they believed was inedible (i.e. dead as a doornail). I did, at least, make it to the bathroom.

Ms. Toad

(38,630 posts)
46. As long as they are dead, I enjoy eggs.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 02:04 PM
Oct 2021

Those look OK. And my spouse eats sunny side up and runny, so visuals don't bother me in case you were trying to make me destroy my computer It's purely a physical, very strong, gag reflex.

Goonch

(5,038 posts)
47. The longer you cook scrambled eggs
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 03:13 PM
Oct 2021

the more the flavor changes.
Personally I prefer mine a bit runny with toast.

hunter

(40,686 posts)
58. My wife won't eat fully cooked scrambled eggs.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 04:35 PM
Oct 2021

One of my grandmas always overcooked her eggs.

My dad would always try to convince us that Army powdered eggs scrambled and mixed with fried chicken livers was an excellent breakfast. Maybe it was one of the better breakfasts when he was in the Army, but me and my siblings wouldn't touch it.


PatSeg

(53,213 posts)
29. It is on Paramount Plus
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 09:51 AM
Oct 2021

I've never seen it before. I think I'll watch it tonight. I love Tony Shalhoub and Stanley Tucci.

marble falls

(71,911 posts)
25. I love restaurants and I really love that movie - just a finely cast, written and produced movie.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 09:40 AM
Oct 2021

Javaman

(65,704 posts)
34. this movie is so near and dear to me.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 11:23 AM
Oct 2021

growing up in a Sicilian family, there was so much truth to the relationship with the bothers. The food, the conversations, etc. it reminded me so much of my brother and I and our relationship.

at the end I cried. even now, I get weepy over it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
36. "There are snails on her plate! There are so many snails you can't even see the food!"
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 11:32 AM
Oct 2021

"Now take it away and bring us those toasted cheese sandwich appetizers you talked us out of!"

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
50. Ah - I missed your post (I posted the same).
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 03:18 PM
Oct 2021

I was considering Monty Python's Mr. Creosote sketch, but it's pretty nasty.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
71. I just realized the video posted what I wrote, so my post was a bit redundant, but still it was
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 08:54 PM
Oct 2021

one of the best lines in stupid comedy ever. I love the Mr. Creosote sketch, but the end of that one was pretty nasty if you happen to have an issue with vomit, which I do.

rpannier

(24,922 posts)
9. Maybe the patron was Ray Stevens
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 07:01 AM
Oct 2021

Some of the lyrics from the song Gourmet Restaurants:

Well a few months later some friends insisted we try out the Chateau Larieux
After waiting an hour and a half we finally sat down, and heck, I couldn't even read the menu!
So I asked the waiter, "How's the beef?"
He said "Ze steak tartar is ze best you ever had."
But when he brought it, friends I though I'd seen rare meat
But this wasn't even hurt real bad!

A couple band-aids and that boy'd been back out there grazing!

Well, I just couldn't eat that steak tartar, I was confused in every way. I wasn't even too sure about the soup du jour, I hear they change that every day!

muriel_volestrangler

(106,186 posts)
61. He doesn't say anything at all, he just shakes his head
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 04:52 PM
Oct 2021

and then fries it, as requested. I can't really see why it "went viral".

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
22. i was at an Ethopian Resturant and ordered raw hmburger knowing exactly what it was..
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 08:42 AM
Oct 2021

...but i wanted to try it. I nibbled and that was it. Any other beef I order blood rare..but raw hamburger was just too much

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
53. Good steak tartare - and kitfo
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 03:32 PM
Oct 2021

and kibbe, which is a middle-eastern lamb version - should be made with finely chopped meat, not hamburger or ground beef. That way the texture isn't mushy. It is more work, though. Sometimes, when I have left-over rare beef I'll use the redder parts to make a mock tartar, mixing it with minced onions and worchestershire sauce.

marble falls

(71,911 posts)
28. In Green Pastures in Austin (home of the Yellow Dawg Democrats): "Do you have a restroom?" ...
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 09:49 AM
Oct 2021

... what I wanted to say: "Oh, no, ma'am. We doen't but it's such a novel and good idea, I'm going to put it into the 'suggestion box" and win $5.00." Or - "But of course, we do. Thankyou for asking, now then, ma'am, may I take your order?"

DFW

(60,173 posts)
30. Did he send back his salad because it was full of plants?
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 10:42 AM
Oct 2021

Who orders a steak tartare and expects a Big Mac?

On second thought, don't answer that. We all know who.

maxrandb

(17,424 posts)
33. I once asked for milk in my Greek Coffee at a cafe in Athens
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 11:11 AM
Oct 2021

it almost caused an international incident

maxsolomon

(38,698 posts)
40. I ordered it in Paris, and the waitress was very concerned
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 12:14 PM
Oct 2021

C'est CRU, tu comprends?

Yes, I am from America but I am aware...

milestogo

(23,072 posts)
54. I don't understand why this is posted here, or why it went viral.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 03:34 PM
Oct 2021

Its not even worth discussing.

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
55. I've seen a version in France that was partly cooked
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 03:36 PM
Oct 2021

it was called "aller retourner", and the formed steak tartare was put under a hot broiler for a few seconds on each side, long enough to form a cooked crust but leave the inside still raw. I've never seen it anywhere else, though.

Darn, now I want steak tartare for dinner, but it's a lot of work!

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

DFW

(60,173 posts)
59. I read my wife the title of the OP, and she thought it was a great joke
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 04:38 PM
Oct 2021

She is German. She still can't get over that there really are people on the USA about whom this story is a recounting of a true incident, and not a restaurant joke.

Polybius

(21,895 posts)
62. Many customers in restaurants located in poor towns are uneducated
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 05:01 PM
Oct 2021

I worked in one place in a poor town. At least twice a week, customers would send back prime rib because they thought it was ribs. When I relocated to a better location, it never happened again.

WarGamer

(18,611 posts)
65. My father used to order that stuff...
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 06:24 PM
Oct 2021

FWIW, cooked steak tartare would taste like meatloaf. Jus sayin'...

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,681 posts)
66. I think the cooked version looked better. And healthier.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 06:27 PM
Oct 2021

Strange bugs lurk in raw meat and raw egg yolks. It looked like the chef turned it into a steak omelet, yum.

Of course I also think sushi would be better if it were battered and deep-fat fried.

And don't get me started about raw kibbeh. Not a fan.



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