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Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 12:09 PM Oct 2021

No one asked if I wanted a vaccine

Back in another lifetime, I found myself in Fort Dix, NJ for basic training.

Day one, we were issued uniforms. Day two, we took off those uniforms and walked in a row between doctors and medics on both sides of us. Everyone in line was getting jabbed in both arms with perhaps a dozen or more shots to protect us from ... everything in the world, I suppose. No one asked us if we wanted those shots.

(I didn't mind the shots, but I did mind the barracks which were built for "temporary" use during WWII and are still standing as far as I know. Turns out, the toilets had no stalls. There were about 8-10 thrones lined up out in the open. This was cultural shock at its maximum. But you can get used to anything. By the second day, no one cared. Do you suppose today's MAGAs would claim that their "Freedom" required a stall?)

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No one asked if I wanted a vaccine (Original Post) Cyrano Oct 2021 OP
Only if "liberals" said it did not. Thomas Hurt Oct 2021 #1
No one was saying anything. We were all told to shut up and Cyrano Oct 2021 #2
Of course, I wasn't referring to the Army. Thomas Hurt Oct 2021 #3
You know, they didn't ask me either HAB911 Oct 2021 #4
OMG a freaking VACCINE PASSPORT csziggy Oct 2021 #5
Some of us were ahead of our time HAB911 Oct 2021 #6
You got papers? Cyrano Oct 2021 #7
Oh yes HAB911 Oct 2021 #8
I'm a civilian and have one. cab67 Oct 2021 #11
I can only guess that, at the time, my uniform was sufficient. Cyrano Oct 2021 #16
They're not always checked, but your uniform may indeed have been enough. cab67 Oct 2021 #24
They should be standard issue for everyone! HAB911 Oct 2021 #17
Remember well Traildogbob Oct 2021 #9
You might faint; you might hyperventilate; sarge43 Oct 2021 #10
Hahaha Traildogbob Oct 2021 #21
There really is a sorta' democracy in the services Cyrano Oct 2021 #14
Had an African American Drill Sergeabt for Basic at Knox RVN VET71 Oct 2021 #18
Anyone remember their time in RVN leanforward Oct 2021 #12
damn straight - was there from 67-70 ! TFG called us sucker's & loser's ? guess what - monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #20
Similar experience in basic training in 1970 Mickju Oct 2021 #13
I got all required vaccines. kairos12 Oct 2021 #15
When my Dad was sent to Spain for burrowowl Oct 2021 #19
As I recall that happened to me as a four year old entering Kindergarten. hunter Oct 2021 #22
A whole bunch of those barracks... Grins Oct 2021 #23
I remember MFM008 Oct 2021 #25
No needles for me when I went into the Army ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2021 #26
I wonder why those pressure guns aren't used more. sakabatou Oct 2021 #28
A few people flinched. If you moved while the high-pressure stream is on, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2021 #29
Sounds the same as flotsam2 Oct 2021 #27

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
2. No one was saying anything. We were all told to shut up and
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 12:28 PM
Oct 2021

do as we were told. The army ain't a democracy.

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
7. You got papers?
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 01:07 PM
Oct 2021

I never did. If any exist on me, they're probably somewhere in DC, or some storage facility in Nebraska.

I noticed your first form say's "Georgia" which means you might have been at Fort Benning. I spent a couple of months there and left with red clay in everything I owned. It took about two years to get rid of the last grains.

HAB911

(8,868 posts)
8. Oh yes
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 01:11 PM
Oct 2021

Sand Hill for basic, Ft Leonard Wood for AIT, 1 year on the Korean DMZ, 3rd year back at Benning's 197th Brigade

as for papers, I carried that for years in my wallet

cab67

(2,990 posts)
11. I'm a civilian and have one.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 01:57 PM
Oct 2021

Some countries won't let you in without being vaccinated for something or other. These are mostly tropical countries where yellow fever is endemic.

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
9. Remember well
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 01:40 PM
Oct 2021

Navy did the same. But before each deployment, more lines and high velocity stream Vax guns in each arm. Many times after a day or two in a foreign port for shore leave, the sick bay lines were full of sailers needing STD shots. And not one whined about what was in them or their freedumbs.

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
10. You might faint; you might hyperventilate;
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 01:56 PM
Oct 2021

you might even like Wiley Coyote hold up a sign reading "What in heaven's name have I done?!" You did not whine.

Griping is mandatory
Whining is forbidden.

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
14. There really is a sorta' democracy in the services
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 02:14 PM
Oct 2021

Like anywhere else, there are white supremacists in all the services.

For reasons I wasn't mature/knowledgeable to understand at the time, I enjoyed watching bigoted assholes having to obey the orders of their superiors and call black/Hispanic officers "Sir." It's only now that I fully savor the agony it must have caused them to have to call a black/brown man "Sir."

(If you haven't been in the service, there is a code of conduct that has nothing to do with race, religion, or anything else. You either follow it, or you get kicked out, or thrown in the stockade/brig.)

How about some of you wingnut "militia heroes" join one of America's real services and find out how well your beliefs are received there? (Oh, and it ain't just weekends.)

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
18. Had an African American Drill Sergeabt for Basic at Knox
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 02:34 PM
Oct 2021

He was married to a blonde haired, blue eyed German woman. 2 other Drill Sgts in my company, decent guys but white and deep south, used to get all red in the face in the afternoon, at day’s end, when my guy said good bye for the day and told them in graphic detail what he and his wife planned to do with each other. He loved that look in their eyes, oh yes he did!

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
12. Anyone remember their time in RVN
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 01:58 PM
Oct 2021

Does anyone remember their time in RVN around the base camp and those smokey 1/2 barrels being burned everyday? The Vietnames ladies were in charge of burning and stirring. Nuff said.

Ditto on shots, all of the above comments.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
20. damn straight - was there from 67-70 ! TFG called us sucker's & loser's ? guess what -
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 03:04 PM
Oct 2021

HE'S THE THE BIGGEST LOSER IN AMERICAN HISTORY !

Mickju

(1,797 posts)
13. Similar experience in basic training in 1970
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 01:59 PM
Oct 2021

No one complained about being vaccinated. I didn't even know what we were being vaccinated against. Never would have thought of complaining

kairos12

(12,843 posts)
15. I got all required vaccines.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 02:15 PM
Oct 2021

Including my Jump Wings pounded into my chest and Ranger Tab safety pinned to my shoulder at graduation. My TAC said that’s what I get for not having any family show up for my sorry ass at graduation.

burrowowl

(17,632 posts)
19. When my Dad was sent to Spain for
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 02:57 PM
Oct 2021

the State Department in 1959 my Mother and all us kid from 11years old to 18 months had to get lots of vaccines (the typhus was the worst) when we went to join our Father. Had one of those yellow vaccinator cards for ages, actually it is quite handy reminds you when your tetanus shot is due.

hunter

(38,304 posts)
22. As I recall that happened to me as a four year old entering Kindergarten.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 03:04 PM
Oct 2021

I remember that school nurse. I think she'd served in a Korean War M.A.S.H. unit and didn't take shit from anyone.

Grins

(7,199 posts)
23. A whole bunch of those barracks...
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 03:17 PM
Oct 2021

…at Fort Dix we’re built during WWI! My grandfather built some of them.

When I was stationed at Fort Riley in the early 70’s - same thing - the Army made use of WWI barracks at Camp Funston (although for non-housing purposes.) I was housed in WWII barracks at Camp Forsyth for a few months. Pretty sure they have now all been (mercifully) torn down and the land repurposed.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
25. I remember
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 04:03 PM
Oct 2021

Standing in lines in school to get some kind of vaccines now maybe they ask my parents for permission but they certainly didn't ask us. Also I seem to remember them checking for TB quite a bit back then..60s..

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,325 posts)
26. No needles for me when I went into the Army ...
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 04:12 PM
Oct 2021

All the vaccines were administered via hydraulic pressure from overgrown squirt guns. They push against your arm, tell you to hold still, then "bang" and the vaccine is under your skin. Repeat many times for various vaccines. With no needles to handle, it was fast to vaccinate a few hundred inductees.

I was in "temporary" barracks for a few assignments, but for basic (Ft Bliss, El Paso), the barracks were brand-new, one-story, cement floors. No waxing, no "bufflers", just a quick sweep and mop.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,325 posts)
29. A few people flinched. If you moved while the high-pressure stream is on, ...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 05:22 AM
Oct 2021

... it causes a nasty slice. Like a water jet cutting sheet metal. Much blood.

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