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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,145 posts)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 03:38 PM Oct 2021

'Protective' Katie Couric left out RBG's criticisms of kneeling for anthem in 2016 interview

https://www.yahoo.com/now/protective-katie-couric-left-rbgs-190400974.html

Katie Couric revealed that her 2016 interview with Ruth Bader Ginsburg omitted some of the former Supreme Court Justice’s unfavorable views of people who kneel for the national anthem.

While the final cut included Ginsburg criticizing protesters such as Colin Kaepernick as “dumb and disrespectful,” it left out her comments calling the act of protest “contempt for a government that has made it possible for their parents and grandparents to live a decent life.”

Ginsburg allegedly continued, “They probably could not have lived in the places they came from. ... As they became older, they realize that this was youthful folly. And that's why education is important.”

The day after Couric interviewed Ginsburg, the Supreme Court's head of public affairs reportedly reached out to ask that some of the statements be excluded from the final product.
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'Protective' Katie Couric left out RBG's criticisms of kneeling for anthem in 2016 interview (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 OP
Well ... this should be interesting Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2021 #1
lmaoooooooo WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #3
right result, wrong reason Hamlette Oct 2021 #4
What questions would you ask to make "They probably could not have lived in the places they came WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #5
I just would have loved to argue that point with her Hamlette Oct 2021 #10
Her legacy on race (and criminal justice, for that matter) is not great. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #11
Such as? BlueLucy Oct 2021 #17
Her record. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #18
Why infantilize her Dorian Gray Oct 2021 #19
That's baloney. She was sharp as a tack. nilram Oct 2021 #6
Her comments certainly track with her record. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #12
Which things in particular? Although she's an icon in many ways nilram Oct 2021 #13
Savannah GUTHRIE/NBC interview due 10-19. Has been blackballed by CBS. Rough book tour all around. UTUSN Oct 2021 #2
Brooks argued that she should remove the statements because.. Patton French Oct 2021 #7
She didn't like flag burning but recognized it as freedom of speech arlyellowdog Oct 2021 #8
Couric? Not worth the time. LiberalFighter Oct 2021 #9
RBG apologized and said her comments were "unduly dismissive and harsh " DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2021 #14
Idols sometimes have feet of clay. This is saddening to hear. brush Oct 2021 #15
Damn, if only the people we admire for somethings were utterly perfect in all things.. Caliman73 Oct 2021 #16

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,145 posts)
3. lmaoooooooo
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 03:46 PM
Oct 2021
Couric was conflicted about the request and asked journalist David Brooks of the New York Times as well as former head of ABC News David Westin for advice. Brooks argued that she should remove the statements because Ginsburg was “elderly and probably didn't fully understand the question.”

Hamlette

(15,388 posts)
4. right result, wrong reason
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 03:50 PM
Oct 2021

I would like to have talked to RBG about it. Maybe a better journalist could have clarified her position to make it more tolerable/understandable.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,145 posts)
5. What questions would you ask to make "They probably could not have lived in the places they came
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 03:55 PM
Oct 2021

from" more tolerable?

Hamlette

(15,388 posts)
10. I just would have loved to argue that point with her
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 04:19 PM
Oct 2021

and see if I could change her mind. I guess I just don't want to believe she was such an apparent racist based on just this.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,145 posts)
18. Her record.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:46 PM
Oct 2021

She wrote Porter v. Nussle, which makes it harder for federal prisoners to assert their rights. She sided with the majority to uphold Overton v. Bazetta, which included a lifetime ban on prison visits for prisoners who violated substance-abuse rules. She did not take stands against solitary confinement. She wasn't that great on tribal issues. She had one Black clerk during her tenure.

Don't get me wrong, she was a force. And she was not perfect. Great collars, though. Beautiful collars.

Dorian Gray

(13,469 posts)
19. Why infantilize her
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 09:18 PM
Oct 2021

If she said it, own it.

Why do we have to ignore/hide views that may challenge our own views?

nilram

(2,879 posts)
6. That's baloney. She was sharp as a tack.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 04:10 PM
Oct 2021

Sometimes our heroes are flawed. I can disagree with her and still love her just as much as ever.

nilram

(2,879 posts)
13. Which things in particular? Although she's an icon in many ways
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 05:17 PM
Oct 2021

I don’t keep her record in my head.

Patton French

(704 posts)
7. Brooks argued that she should remove the statements because..
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 04:15 PM
Oct 2021

..Ginsburg was “elderly and probably didn't fully understand the question.” What an insulting and ageist thing to say. Even a brilliant jurist like RBG can have opinions that some may disagree with; don't dismiss them with insults.

arlyellowdog

(866 posts)
8. She didn't like flag burning but recognized it as freedom of speech
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 04:16 PM
Oct 2021

My husband had Ruth Ginsberg for 5 courses in law school. She was a brilliant legal mind. During his time at law school (and mine in college) students took over buildings, burned flags, and there was constant disruption. Ginsberg only saw the legality of the actions. Disruption was not her style. I know that right wingers want to discredit Justice Ginsberg, but her decisions and defense of gay marriage, rights of disabled citizens, and women’s rights elevate her.

Caliman73

(11,690 posts)
16. Damn, if only the people we admire for somethings were utterly perfect in all things..
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 06:03 PM
Oct 2021

I disagree strongly with RBG on this issue, especially given that the place where "they came from" was America and many in his generation, as well as their grandparents, were not afforded a "decent life".

Just because you yourself may have experienced discrimination and struggled for rights, doesn't automatically make you open to the rights of others. That is something that we all have to remember.

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