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She was dead on about TFG. (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2021 OP
is she on the road promoting the brand and the details of the biden agenda? nt msongs Oct 2021 #1
I agree but I am not in a position to help. I hope our Dem leaders step up and do something Maraya1969 Oct 2021 #2
Same here. I recommended to my Senators they read Dr. Snyder's book 'on tyranny'. triron Oct 2021 #14
I keep seeing "TFG" can someone please tell me what it means? Groundhawg Oct 2021 #3
The Former Guy Green Line Oct 2021 #5
The former guy. A nickname for Trump coined by Biden Walleye Oct 2021 #6
TFG - "the former guy" liberalla Oct 2021 #7
As others have explained what it means, Mr. Evil Oct 2021 #11
Well, I like to read it as Leith Oct 2021 #17
Same here Rebl2 Oct 2021 #21
I prefer The Fucking Grifter. dhol82 Oct 2021 #28
That's good, too Leith Oct 2021 #30
K&R spanone Oct 2021 #4
Thanks guys. Somehow I suspected it was "That fucking guy" Groundhawg Oct 2021 #8
That, too. Ocelot II Oct 2021 #12
LOL (busted) 2Gingersnaps Oct 2021 #13
That's how Rebl2 Oct 2021 #22
I think those in charge are taking the threat very seriously. Ppl here on DU, TikTok, college PortTack Oct 2021 #9
I'm a little conflicted. On the one hand, I want to shout "Sing it, Sister! Sing it loud & proud"... JHB Oct 2021 #10
Remember when they made fun of the "vast right wing conspiracy? 2Gingersnaps Oct 2021 #20
I also remember gritting my teeth at that easily-lampoonable phrasing, though accurate... JHB Oct 2021 #26
She is correct. Very, very correct. Tick, tock..... Missn-Hitch Oct 2021 #15
She sure was! Regrettably so, I might add... liberalla Oct 2021 #16
She knows her stuff. Rachel needs to get her on. triron Oct 2021 #23
Indeed. n/t iluvtennis Oct 2021 #18
K&R Solly Mack Oct 2021 #19
She wasn't the only one. The threat was there before 2020. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2021 #24
We're still playing softball. Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #25
There is no amount of seriousness that can be applied to this threat that is remotely exaggerated. BobTheSubgenius Oct 2021 #27
The Democracy Docket article is important Martin Eden Oct 2021 #29

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
2. I agree but I am not in a position to help. I hope our Dem leaders step up and do something
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 06:59 PM
Oct 2021

I worry about the 2022 election and the House and Senate. Who knows what bullshit they are preparing to perpetrate

Mr. Evil

(2,839 posts)
11. As others have explained what it means,
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:17 PM
Oct 2021

it's so we don't have to actually use his name. Which is the best way to refer to the orange slobfather.

PortTack

(32,755 posts)
9. I think those in charge are taking the threat very seriously. Ppl here on DU, TikTok, college
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:12 PM
Oct 2021

Students and the younger ppl are taking it seriously they want change and pay attention. The average person that votes maybe every 4 yrs, uninformed not so much

JHB

(37,158 posts)
10. I'm a little conflicted. On the one hand, I want to shout "Sing it, Sister! Sing it loud & proud"...
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:13 PM
Oct 2021

On the other hand, the shout is "This has been true since you were still First Lady of Arkansas!"

But trying to tell people this always got you dismissed as "shrill" and "far left" and "conspiracy theorizing".

The other side has a Divine Right complex. We are in their way and they are determined to squash us by any means at hand.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
20. Remember when they made fun of the "vast right wing conspiracy?
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:34 PM
Oct 2021

That the Kochs have been financing since FDR? Richard Mellon Scaife financed the Clinton investigations? Billionaires and the Federalist Society trying their best to bring autocracy? And she wasn't wrong about that basket of deplorables either. So I am with you, "Sing it sister!" Ever amazed the stuff they were willing to believe of her with NO evidence, she answered the subpoena. She did her eleven hours and didn't need a mulligan for perjury, as opposed the stuff TFG did in plain site.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
26. I also remember gritting my teeth at that easily-lampoonable phrasing, though accurate...
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:47 PM
Oct 2021

I also remember that it was taken a little too Clinton-specifically. Nobody with any clout in the Democratic party, even the Clintons, understood that it wasn't about specific people, it was about obstacles to a goal. In 2008 we had people still sweeping the whole matter under the rug as "well, the Clintons were polarizing figures" instead of recognizing that they were constantly attacked because they stood in the way of the overarching Movement Conservative goal of wiping away the New Deal or any other earlier restraint on the power of wealth by Teddy Roosevelt or anyone else.

They wanted the Gilded Age and Robber Barons back. That was their Golden Age, the Way Things Ought To Be, in their eyes. And to get the power to get what they wanted, they were fine with feeding the deplorable hellbeast that would give them the numbers to do it.

I don't like to be a downer (hell, I'm the TOONs guy), but while I'm glad to hear people who will be listened to say it, I am so goddamn frustrated that so many very smart people have been so late to recognize what was right under their noses for a generation and a half.

liberalla

(9,238 posts)
16. She sure was! Regrettably so, I might add...
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 07:28 PM
Oct 2021

She's also right on in her belief that Democrats do not appreciate the severity of the threat to our democracy.

Bookmarking for Marc Elias piece.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
24. She wasn't the only one. The threat was there before 2020.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:22 PM
Oct 2021

The Atlantic did and piece on the subject and people here ridiculed it as “the sky is falling”

Loyola Law School wrote a paper in 2019 on the subject. I posted the paper here and was accused of being a disgruntled Berniebro.


Loyola’s paper was written with Elizabeth Warren as the placeholder/assumed candidate.


I still maintain that winning Arizona and Georgia headed of the nightmare scenario. Had the election gone down to Pennsylvania only the prize may have been too tempting for the Pennsylvania Republican leadership to pass up. Instead the Pennsylvania GOP house leadership pretended to play above the fray — easy enough to do because going out on that limb wouldn’t have tipped the election.


https://lawecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2719&context=luclj

Preparing for a Disputed Presidential Election: An Exercise in Election Risk Assessment and Management


INTRODUCTION

It is Election Night 2020. This time it is all eyes on Pennsylvania, as whoever wins the Keystone State will win an Electoral College majority. Trump is ahead in the state by 20,000 votes, and he is tweeting “The race is over. Another four years to keep Making America Great Again.”
The Associated Press (AP) and the networks have not yet declared Trump winner. Although 20,000 is a sizable lead, they have learned in recent years that numbers can shift before final, official certification of election results. They are afraid of “calling” the election for Trump, only to find themselves needing to retract the call—as they embarrassingly did twenty years earlier, in 2000. Trump’s Democratic opponent, _________ (fill in the blank with whichever candidate you prefer; I will pick Elizabeth Warren since at the moment she is the front-runner according to prediction markets),1 is not conceding, claiming the race still too close to call. Both candidates end the night without going in front of the cameras.
In the morning, new numbers show Trump’s lead starting to slip, and by noon it is below 20,000. Impatient, Trump holds an impromptu press conference and announces:
INTRODUCTION
It is Election Night 2020. This time it is all eyes on Pennsylvania, as whoever wins the Keystone State will win an Electoral College majority. Trump is ahead in the state by 20,000 votes, and he is tweeting “The race is over. Another four years to keep Making America Great Again.”
The Associated Press (AP) and the networks have not yet declared Trump winner. Although 20,000 is a sizable lead, they have learned in recent years that numbers can shift before final, official certification of election results. They are afraid of “calling” the election for Trump, only to find themselves needing to retract the call—as they embarrassingly did twenty years earlier, in 2000. Trump’s Democratic opponent, _________ (fill in the blank with whichever candidate you prefer; I will pick Elizabeth Warren since at the moment she is the front-runner according to prediction markets),1 is not conceding, claiming the race still too close to call. Both candidates end the night without going in front of the cameras.
In the morning, new numbers show Trump’s lead starting to slip, and by noon it is below 20,000. Impatient, Trump holds an impromptu press conference and announces:

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
27. There is no amount of seriousness that can be applied to this threat that is remotely exaggerated.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:51 PM
Oct 2021

None.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
29. The Democracy Docket article is important
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:59 AM
Oct 2021

It spells out how Republicans plan to subvert election results at the state and local level.

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