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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,757 posts)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:18 PM Oct 2021

Sinema Tells House Dems She Won't Vote For Reconciliation Bill Until After BIF Is Passed

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) reportedly told House Democrats this week that she won’t support Democrats’ sweeping reconciliation package until the bipartisan infrastructure bill passes, according to Reuters.

In an online meeting, Sinema and fellow centrist Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) told the group that they will not abide by any deadlines imposed by Democratic leadership to force votes on reconciliation.

Earlier this month, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) set Oct. 31 as a deadline to pass both the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill and the reconciliation package.

Both Manchin and Sinema continue to put up a fight over the reconciliation package’s $3.5 trillion topline. While Manchin has proposed a topline of $1.5 trillion, Sinema has yet to publicly give numbers or indicate what she will and won’t accept in the reconciliation package.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/report-sinema-tells-house-dems-she-wont-vote-for-reconciliation-bill-until-after-bif-is-passed/ar-AAPx1mS

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jimfields33

(15,703 posts)
3. The thing that we're finally beginning to get is her demands.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:55 PM
Oct 2021

That’s a start of getting these things passed. That’s what everybody has wanted from her. She’s finally giving answers to everybody’s questions. A little late, but she’s talking.

mwooldri

(10,301 posts)
2. And House Progressives won't vote for BIF...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:53 PM
Oct 2021

... until Sinema etc get a reconciliation bill passed in the Senate.

Who blinks first?

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
5. Then you write both bills. Pick a day and a time, TO THE MINUTE,
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:21 PM
Oct 2021

That both come up for a vote in their respective chambers.
Both get passed at exactly the same time (roughly--and yes, it's a trust exercise, god help us lol).

When they're both passed, walk each bill past each other to the other chamber and do it again.

Dramatic, yes. But the media will eat this necessary lunacy up and both pieces can go to bidens desk at the same time.

Wanderlust988

(509 posts)
4. Rep. Jayapal hasn't demanded that the Senate goes first
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:11 PM
Oct 2021

But I think this is not a bad demand from Sinema, as long she publicly backs the spending bill and says she'll vote for it. If she does, then I think the progressives should go ahead and vote for infrastructure. I think this can be worked out.

SKKY

(11,794 posts)
7. Yea, if this all goes down in flames because one bill wasn't passed before the other...
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:50 AM
Oct 2021

...we probably deserve to get shellacked in the midterms. That to me seems like Sinema is saying, "Listen, I'll go along with your reconciliation bill, probably more than I really want to, but you've gotta do the BIF first." I don't see how the progressives say no to that as long as they get her on the record supporting it.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
11. Pelosi has to send the passed bills to be signed by Biden, so she
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:49 AM
Oct 2021

can hold one until the other is passed.

In It to Win It

(8,225 posts)
10. I think you're exactly right. If they can get a commitment from Sinema
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:38 AM
Oct 2021

,obviously assuming that all other Dem senators are on board, then have a vote on the infrastructure bill in the House, and then have a vote for the reconciliation bill in the senate.

I’m thinking that Sinema is saying the infrastructure has to be passed first before she’ll vote for the spending but she will still want to water down the spending bill after infrastructure bill is passed.

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