Fri Oct 15, 2021, 02:07 PM
fescuerescue (4,108 posts)
Bitcoin approaching new all time high again
The news that China banned it seemed to only slow it down by a few months
Any guesses as to how high it will be before it slows? This morning it was at $61,000 https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/us-sec-poised-allow-first-bitcoin-futures-etf-bloomberg-news-2021-10-15/
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fescuerescue | Oct 2021 | OP |
ColinC | Oct 2021 | #1 | |
MisterProton | Oct 2021 | #18 | |
joetheman | Oct 2021 | #2 | |
Moostache | Oct 2021 | #3 | |
empedocles | Oct 2021 | #5 | |
fescuerescue | Oct 2021 | #6 | |
hunter | Oct 2021 | #7 | |
ColinC | Oct 2021 | #8 | |
fescuerescue | Oct 2021 | #15 | |
Celerity | Oct 2021 | #16 | |
empedocles | Oct 2021 | #4 | |
walkingman | Oct 2021 | #9 | |
hunter | Oct 2021 | #10 | |
walkingman | Oct 2021 | #11 | |
fescuerescue | Oct 2021 | #13 | |
hunter | Oct 2021 | #17 | |
ZonkerHarris | Oct 2021 | #12 | |
fescuerescue | Oct 2021 | #14 |
Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 02:10 PM
ColinC (5,479 posts)
1. 10 trillion market cap will be the next peak, maybe?
Response to ColinC (Reply #1)
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 03:26 PM
MisterProton (56 posts)
18. Wrong forum for this...
Maybe 1 out of a thousand readers on this site are going to understand how true this is, what it means, and how to take advantage of it.
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Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 02:12 PM
joetheman (1,450 posts)
2. This is really iffy. nt
Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 02:13 PM
Moostache (9,537 posts)
3. I'm still long on tulip bulbs...
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dutch_tulip_bulb_market_bubble.asp
I am pretty sure that its only a matter of time before I can unload my inherited position at maximum profit. |
Response to Moostache (Reply #3)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 02:24 PM
empedocles (15,116 posts)
5. Various flowers have seen boomlets and madness Here is one I had not heard of
Response to Moostache (Reply #3)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 02:27 PM
fescuerescue (4,108 posts)
6. Yep. I said the same thing when I sold all 20 my bitcoin at $1,000
After having bought it for $200. This was back in 2013.
I just couldn't see how it could sustain itself over $1,000 and I really needed that new car. Having said that. The car is now worn out. But I sure could make use of $1.2m right about now. My skepticism is starting to wear now. I see the big banks and institutions jumping in. At least one country has made it an official legal tender. Maybe this really is a new technology paradigm. Maybe not. I just know I wish I had that $1.2m |
Response to fescuerescue (Reply #6)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 04:21 PM
hunter (35,564 posts)
7. I've avoided a lot of unethical money making opportunities in my lifetime. No regrets.
I don't think there's any good in bitcoin.
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Response to hunter (Reply #7)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 04:52 PM
ColinC (5,479 posts)
8. Curious how bitcoin is any more unethical than regular gambling or other purely speculative
investments? Or is it that gambling is unethical and since Bitcoin is basically gambling, then it is unethical?
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Response to hunter (Reply #7)
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 03:28 PM
fescuerescue (4,108 posts)
15. Fortunately I'm extra ethical in other areas
So dabbling in a little unethical math (bitcoin) evens things out.
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Response to Moostache (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 03:34 PM
Celerity (29,927 posts)
16. Completely flawed analogy. Tulips are not fungible, not durable, and involved a massively
complex supply chain, especially during that time.
BTC is fungible, is durable (ie it's value is not subject to physical deterioration) and is redeemable globally within an extremely short time frame without physical movement. The tulip analogy is thus fatally flawed at multiple points. |
Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 02:16 PM
empedocles (15,116 posts)
4. 'Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds' - McKay
A whole working farm, for a certain tulp bulb?
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Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:01 PM
walkingman (4,489 posts)
9. I view BC the same as I do the celebrity mega-rich. It is all about taking
advantage of the vast amount of people that put there money into "hot people" or those that like to simply gamble. Obviously there is the element of money-laundering but in reality BC is no different that other currencies - If you have faith in it, and it is legal tender for goods and services, it is just another currency.
I don't get the social media celebs so I cannot understand most of the crypto movement. I imagine some will prosper and some will lose - only time will tell. I really don't care..... |
Response to walkingman (Reply #9)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:11 PM
hunter (35,564 posts)
10. No, it's not "just another currency."
Real currencies are backed up by the full faith and credit of the social entities that back them.
Guys like Alexander Hamilton and Benjamin Franklin, and later John Maynard Keynes, understood what money is. |
Response to hunter (Reply #10)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:29 PM
walkingman (4,489 posts)
11. Good point, and I agree. Government regulation (like China) could change the best laid plans.
Response to hunter (Reply #10)
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 03:25 PM
fescuerescue (4,108 posts)
13. I agree. But that's also the point
It was intended from the beginning to be NOT associated with any country.
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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #13)
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 03:46 PM
hunter (35,564 posts)
17. Gold is not associated with any currency.
Using it as money is equally foolish.
Gold does have uses, for example, as an electrical conductor or for making pretty jewelry. Bitcoins on the other hand are essentially numbers having certain predefined properties and are not useful for either purpose. If I owned pi I might be the richest guy on earth. I suspect bitcoin was engineered as an obfuscated chain-letter-pyramid scheme, possibly with ill-intentions , maybe as a joke. |
Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:32 PM
ZonkerHarris (20,840 posts)
12. I wasn't "pro Bitcoin" until China was against it. But now if they don't like it then I'm all for it
Response to ZonkerHarris (Reply #12)
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 03:27 PM
fescuerescue (4,108 posts)
14. China is weird. That have banned it probably a dozen different times
But it's still all over China.
I think something get's lost in the translation of their ban vs out ban. |