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babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:48 PM Oct 2021

Fully Vaccinated 21-Year-Old Student Dies of COVID-19

Sad and scary-young, in shape, vaxxed, still dead.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fully-vaccinated-21-year-old-university-of-georgia-student-shawn-kuhn-dies-of-covid-19


Fully Vaccinated 21-Year-Old Student Dies of COVID-19
HEARTBREAKING
Blake Montgomery
Reporter/Editor
Published Oct. 15, 2021 7:48PM ET


A 21-year-old student whose family said he had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 died of the respiratory infection Monday. Shawn Kuhn was a senior studying exercise and sports science at the University of Georgia, where he had made the Dean’s List. His older sister, Sharla Brook, told The Red & Black, the school’s paper, that her brother had been inoculated against the coronavirus but that he still spent six weeks fighting pneumonia brought on by COVID-19. His father Timothy wrote on Facebook, “You were everything your mother and I could have ever asked for and so much more… Just know that your mother and I love you more than you could ever imagine and we could not be any more proud of the man you grew to be.”
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Fully Vaccinated 21-Year-Old Student Dies of COVID-19 (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2021 OP
:( sakabatou Oct 2021 #1
... SheltieLover Oct 2021 #2
This is so sad, and so perplexing FakeNoose Oct 2021 #3
Heart goes out to this poor family. Boomerproud Oct 2021 #4
I don't think I need to say it here, but Hav Oct 2021 #5
It will most likely be used by the antivaxxers unfortunately n/t hibbing Oct 2021 #14
They should let people in all age groups get boosters. Crunchy Frog Oct 2021 #6
I can't imagine... piddyprints Oct 2021 #7
Is there a way to test to see if a COVID patient has been vaccinated? There could be some who claim brewens Oct 2021 #8
Or what if he got a shot that wasn't effective OhioBlue Oct 2021 #11
How the vaccines are stored, transported, wnylib Oct 2021 #16
I think that happens also. There should be a record of his vaccinations though Maraya1969 Oct 2021 #74
Yeah. The state and the doctors would have that but can't say anything. n/t brewens Oct 2021 #77
Not much in the way of details. LiberalFighter Oct 2021 #9
Perhaps attended a football game? moondust Oct 2021 #10
I'm UGA faculty GAdem2016 Oct 2021 #13
Welcome to DU, GAdem2016. babylonsister Oct 2021 #17
I'm so very sorry. mzmolly Oct 2021 #18
Welcome to DU, GAdem2016. calimary Oct 2021 #19
Welcome to DU MustLoveBeagles Oct 2021 #21
Welcome to DU .... and as a Ga. Tech alum and the father of a Ga. Tech alum I must say..... groundloop Oct 2021 #22
Welcome to DU. StevieM Oct 2021 #30
:) Welcome, GAdem, from another GA DUer. Thanks for the input. Hortensis Oct 2021 #45
Waving from a Texan happily resettled in GA! Ilsa Oct 2021 #67
LOL re: thanking the Aggies GAdem2016 Oct 2021 #81
... MustLoveBeagles Oct 2021 #12
So very sad. mzmolly Oct 2021 #15
Oh they won't. My university overturned Faculty, Student, and Staff votes in support of a mandate. róisín_dubh Oct 2021 #38
Ugh. mzmolly Oct 2021 #72
So this is a FB story,,,,,,,,, geeez DU Cryptoad Oct 2021 #20
No, it's a Daily Beast story. babylonsister Oct 2021 #23
yes. originally ran in the student newspaper stopdiggin Oct 2021 #29
"geeez du?" really? orleans Oct 2021 #31
Thank you. babylonsister Oct 2021 #36
Link to the original Red & Black (independent UGA student newspaper, Athens, GA) article: CottonBear Oct 2021 #76
This really scares me! Duppers Oct 2021 #24
Come on now, 100 other things a kid that age would die of first. Jon King Oct 2021 #28
and the story still remains stopdiggin Oct 2021 #32
I'm guessing there must be some sort of comorbidity involved Poiuyt Oct 2021 #25
A Guy toughtony Oct 2021 #26
This. Plus, you really don't want to be sick, THEN get Covid on top of it. Hortensis Oct 2021 #46
Like getting struck by lightning, fit, 21 years old, and vaccinated, never die of Covid. Jon King Oct 2021 #27
It's possible he had a comorbidity he was unaware of. BannonsLiver Oct 2021 #79
Thought The Same ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #80
Why do I feel like something is being left out? PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2021 #33
No, it's not. Pneumonia is actually the cause of most deaths Hortensis Oct 2021 #49
And THIS is exactly why we are taking NO chances. We double mask everywhere we go Ferrets are Cool Oct 2021 #34
Most colleges used J&J Bear Creek Oct 2021 #35
Family says he got Pfizer. LisaL Oct 2021 #37
UGA administers the Pfizer vaccine to students, staff, & faculty. NT CottonBear Oct 2021 #73
I read the other day that EVERY time you look closely at an incident of a fully vaccinated person retread Oct 2021 #39
The fact it makes the news shows how rare it is mainer Oct 2021 #40
Heartbreaking..I'm so worried about my son at a large university helpisontheway Oct 2021 #41
Glad to hear that 92%! Of course you're worried, but it sounds Hortensis Oct 2021 #51
Which vaccine did he receive? NurseJackie Oct 2021 #42
Per the family, he got two doses of Pfizer. LisaL Oct 2021 #48
Thanks. It's as we've always been told... NurseJackie Oct 2021 #52
Per the family, he also had covid previously, before getting vaccinated. LisaL Oct 2021 #55
Yes it is. If the person (or persons unknown) who passed it on to him had also been vaccinated... NurseJackie Oct 2021 #57
His father said helpisontheway Oct 2021 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author live love laugh Oct 2021 #70
COVID is not pneumonia speak easy Oct 2021 #44
You have got to be kidding. LisaL Oct 2021 #47
Pneumonia is not congested lungs. speak easy Oct 2021 #50
The point is, it was brought on by Covid. The article says so. Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #53
The point is he died of a secondary infection. speak easy Oct 2021 #54
Or for crying out loud. LisaL Oct 2021 #56
Pneumonia is a medical term. speak easy Oct 2021 #58
Pneumonia is a known complication of covid. LisaL Oct 2021 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #60
I agree with your position Hav Oct 2021 #64
Cause and effect. No Covid, no pneumonia. Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #62
Chill out, Lisa. I'm on your side. Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #61
I can't believe that after all this time, we still have to argue that LisaL Oct 2021 #63
Right. Speakeasy's position feeds into the right-wing meme. Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #65
Covid in itself wouldn't kill anyone if we don't count covid complications. LisaL Oct 2021 #66
Nope. speak easy Oct 2021 #69
Based on your "logic" everybody dies of heart failure then. nt live love laugh Oct 2021 #68
Actually, that's true. Although much or most of the time something else PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2021 #71
My point exactly. Everybody's heart stops at death--but for different reasons. nt live love laugh Oct 2021 #78
He died of pneumonia Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #75
Means nothing really. It's just human interest at best. gulliver Oct 2021 #82

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
3. This is so sad, and so perplexing
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:57 PM
Oct 2021

IF ONLY more Americans took this plague seriously.

IF ONLY people got vaccinated, wore masks and practiced social distancing ... then MAYBE those of us who are already doing those things could remain safe.


Hav

(5,969 posts)
5. I don't think I need to say it here, but
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:06 PM
Oct 2021

these tragic cases strengthen the case for everybody to get vaccinated, of course, and hopefully to reduce the transmission as best as possible. It will always depend on the individual's body to fight an infection. That's why you shouldn't be an asshole and just get vaccinated. You do your part to protect those whose immune system isn't as strong or who get severe complications.

brewens

(13,546 posts)
8. Is there a way to test to see if a COVID patient has been vaccinated? There could be some who claim
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:08 PM
Oct 2021

were vaccinated but weren't. A guy could be terrified of getting the vaccination and say he did to get his family off his back about it. You never know.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
11. Or what if he got a shot that wasn't effective
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:21 PM
Oct 2021

We have read stories of batches of immunizations that had to be discarded because they weren't stored properly or something went wrong during manufacturing.

Remember this pharmacist: https://abcnews.go.com/US/pharmacist-sabotaged-vaccines-thought-unsafe-police/story?id=75019776

wnylib

(21,346 posts)
16. How the vaccines are stored, transported,
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:14 PM
Oct 2021

and injected makes a difference in their effectivenness. I read about this about the handling of the vaccines months ago.

There is also the fact that some people mistakenly think that the vaccines make them completely immune. They don't mask up, distance themselves, or wash their hands often enough. Delta delivers a higher viral load than alpha did. If someone is exposed to the delta virus repeatedly among friends or out in the community, they will get an even larger dose exposure, making a breakthrough infection more serious.

I don't know the details of this young man's exposure or immune system, so I don't know what caused his secondary pneumonia to be so severe. What a tragedy, though.

LiberalFighter

(50,789 posts)
9. Not much in the way of details.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:13 PM
Oct 2021

No confirmation he was vaccinated.

As a student he likely was in close contact with many students. Nothing as to whether the campus had any vaccine requirements.

GAdem2016

(41 posts)
13. I'm UGA faculty
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:44 PM
Oct 2021

No, there are no campus requirements for vaccines or masks. I read about the young man in question in the UGA independent student newspaper Red and Black, who reported that his sister stated he was fully vaccinated.

As the mom of 19yo fully vaccinated kiddo at another Georgia school, this story scares me shitless. I think I'm going to have nighmares about it.

babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
17. Welcome to DU, GAdem2016.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:16 PM
Oct 2021

I think it will scare all parents; maybe the ones with kids who are not vaxxed might reconsider.
I'm vaxxed and old, scares me, too.

mzmolly

(50,980 posts)
18. I'm so very sorry.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:16 PM
Oct 2021

I too have a college student at home and worry as well. That said, we live in a state that strongly encourages vaccination.

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
22. Welcome to DU .... and as a Ga. Tech alum and the father of a Ga. Tech alum I must say.....
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:49 PM
Oct 2021
To hell with Georgia.

(For those not familiar with the UGa - Ga. Tech rivalry that's part of our fight song).

In any case, yes, this damned pandemic needs to be taken seriously. It's an absolute shame that a young adult did the right thing by getting vaccinated yet still died. That just goes to show how bad this virus can be. Sadly this isolated breakthrough death will most certainly be used by anti-vaxxers to further their propaganda when the truth is that cases such as this are extremely rare.

I think by now most of us know one or more people who were killed by it.... my wife's brother in law who refused to get vaccinated died from Covid last month.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
30. Welcome to DU.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:07 PM
Oct 2021

Stories like this make me even more disappointed that we are not being allowed to get booster shots.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
45. :) Welcome, GAdem, from another GA DUer. Thanks for the input.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:30 AM
Oct 2021

It sounds like Shawn may have died of pneumonia, brought on by Covid. Your kiddo's chances are very good, of course, but being vaccinated against the flu and pneumonia as well is a good idea for everyone.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
67. Waving from a Texan happily resettled in GA!
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 10:25 AM
Oct 2021

Go Dawgs!

(You can thank our Texas Aggies later. )

I saw this story on the news. Heartbreaking.

GAdem2016

(41 posts)
81. LOL re: thanking the Aggies
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 03:29 PM
Oct 2021
I graduated from there but am not a bit Aggie football fan. (Really soured on them since the "Johnny Football" days.) My oldest went to UT so I tend to cheer for them, but that's been an exercise in futility these last oh so many years)

mzmolly

(50,980 posts)
15. So very sad.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:02 PM
Oct 2021

I hope the University will reconsider their 'strongly encouraged' vs. required policy.

Our campus community becomes safer and stronger with every person who is vaccinated against COVID-19. While being vaccinated against COVID-19 is not required for attendance at UGA, it is strongly encouraged.


https://coronavirus.uga.edu/

I've been open minded on various vaccines, but not so much during a deadly pandemic.

róisín_dubh

(11,791 posts)
38. Oh they won't. My university overturned Faculty, Student, and Staff votes in support of a mandate.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 07:31 AM
Oct 2021

I live in a Republican hell hole state (won't say which one).
I've had students out weekly since August. I'm getting my booster next week.

orleans

(34,042 posts)
31. "geeez du?" really?
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:09 PM
Oct 2021

she posted a link to daily beast
want a few more links to make it more of a "legit" story?

here ya go:
https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/local/extraordinary-young-man-uga-senior-from-perry-dies-of-covid-19-complications/93-af0dc994-a98a-423c-8ed3-1a791fef31b2

https://www.ajc.com/education/uga-student-dies-from-covid-19-complications/EWGWOUBC3BGQXH43MQVR7PTAXA/

https://www.macon.com/news/coronavirus/article255033667.html

just because the kid's dad posted his love to his son on the kid's fb (or the dad's fb) -- that makes it a "FB story" ??

essentially everything is a damn fb story if you start labeling a wapo or nytimes article or opinion piece that gets posted on fb as a "fb story." (it's faster for me to post a link or article on fb or twitter then to send out several emails to family members or friends.) & i've linked to du -- so does that make various du posts "facebooky?"

all that broadbrushing just comes off pretentious as hell. btw--du has a fb page--96,000 followers

sorry if i misunderstood what you meant--just a bit tired of all the "judgy"ness and off-topic comments that have nothing to do with the original intent of the op

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
76. Link to the original Red & Black (independent UGA student newspaper, Athens, GA) article:
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 01:01 PM
Oct 2021


https://www.redandblack.com/uganews/uga-student-dies-of-covid-19-complications/article_7bc9f016-2c62-11ec-98c2-fb560b0bac12.html

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Shawn Kuhn, a senior majoring in exercise and sports science at the University of Georgia, passed away on Oct. 11 after battling COVID-19-based pneumonia for about six weeks. (Photo/Courtesy Sharla Brook Kuhn)


Shawn Kuhn, a senior majoring in exercise and sports science at the University of Georgia, passed away on Oct. 11 after battling COVID-19-based pneumonia for about six weeks.

Kuhn worked as a certified personal trainer at the UGA Ramsey Student Center and also worked at Chick-Fil-A on Atlanta Hwy, where he began as a server and quickly rose to a Team Leader. His aim was to become a certified physical therapist. Sharla Brook Kuhn, Shawn Kuhn’s older sister, said he was fully vaccinated.


I was roommates with Shawn throughout my sophomore and junior year. We would work out together, throw the Frisbee or just talk about our lives. He was always there to listen when I needed a shoulder to lean on or someone to talk to for comfort,” said Cameron Russell, Kuhn’s close friend and a senior at UGA majoring in nutritional science. “Since hearing about Shawn’s passing, I have been feeling pretty sad about losing this amazing person in my life. Shawn lived such a great life and has made a great impact on my life as well as many of those around him.”

Kuhn—originally from Perry, GA— is remembered by his friends as a kind and passionate person.

...more...

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
24. This really scares me!
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:53 PM
Oct 2021






My vax'd son got a breakthough case but recovered. I had faith that he would but if I'd known about this case, I'd have been worried sick.

Keep those masks on, folks.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
28. Come on now, 100 other things a kid that age would die of first.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:05 PM
Oct 2021

Lets not overreact. The odds of a fully vaccinated 21 year old fit guy dying of Covid is unheard of.

How any 21 year old died in car crashed this week? Likely dozens.

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
32. and the story still remains
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:13 PM
Oct 2021

and I'll emphasize strongly remains - that the fully vaccinated are enjoying remarkable protection from severe illness. Can we absolutely promise 100%? No. But medicine rarely does.

Poiuyt

(18,117 posts)
25. I'm guessing there must be some sort of comorbidity involved
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:56 PM
Oct 2021

I have a fully vaccinated friend who caught covid and ended up in the hospital. It turned out that he had some kind of mass in his lungs that made things so bad for him.

toughtony

(88 posts)
26. A Guy
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:56 PM
Oct 2021

I worked with was already sick when he got his first shot. DON'T WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE SICK, GET THE SHOT WHILE YOU ARE HEALTHY, GET TESTED FIRST. This guy had been tested positive before he got his shot.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. This. Plus, you really don't want to be sick, THEN get Covid on top of it.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:33 AM
Oct 2021

To-do list: Flu and pneumonia shots

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
27. Like getting struck by lightning, fit, 21 years old, and vaccinated, never die of Covid.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:03 PM
Oct 2021

I highly doubt you could find another case like this. This is a once in a million thing.

Likely he had something else going on too. 99.9999% of people in his situation would not have died of Covid.

BannonsLiver

(16,313 posts)
79. It's possible he had a comorbidity he was unaware of.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 03:16 PM
Oct 2021

People walk around all the time with medicAl conditions that are not immediately apparent to them. Cancer and heart disease are 2 examples.

ProfessorGAC

(64,867 posts)
80. Thought The Same
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 03:23 PM
Oct 2021

Unless there was an extensive genetic test plan done, anybody could have complicating factors that otherwise wouldn't manifest themselves for years or decades.
And since that kind of testing is expensive, I doubt many people would have a sense of their potential propensity for these factors.
A healthy 21 year old not able to fight off pneumonia for 6 weeks has to be incredibly rare. An unknown complicating factor is certainly within the realm of possibility.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
33. Why do I feel like something is being left out?
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:16 PM
Oct 2021

Has his vaccination status really been verified? Did he have something else going on? I do see that the photograph of him shows a young man who looks very fit and trim, and it says he was an exercise science major, so you'd think he'd be one of the healthier people out there.

And is the pneumonia brought on by Covid exactly the same as Covid itself?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. No, it's not. Pneumonia is actually the cause of most deaths
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:49 AM
Oct 2021

ascribed to influenza. And it's also a common, very serious complication of Covid infection, apparently like Shawn's.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,104 posts)
34. And THIS is exactly why we are taking NO chances. We double mask everywhere we go
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:21 PM
Oct 2021

and get out as seldom as possible. People who act like this is over are not being smart.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
35. Most colleges used J&J
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:56 PM
Oct 2021

Time to consider pulling it or have everyone who has taken it get a booster ASAP. That vaccine was supposed to be for sparsely populated areas. From the beginning has a very low efficiency rating.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
37. Family says he got Pfizer.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 07:07 AM
Oct 2021

He was also apparently infected with covid previously.
He should have been super immune (infected then vaccinated). I guess he was particularly susceptible to effects of covid for some unknown reasons.

"Kuhn said his son Shawn caught COVID-19 in December last year but only felt mild symptoms. He said he then got both his Pfizer vaccines in April and May. Then caught COVID again in August and was in and out of hospital until he passed this week."


https://www.cbs46.com/news/healthy-fully-vaccinated-uga-student-dies-from-covid-complications/article_6116aa80-2d38-11ec-ad11-c73009419ce3.html

retread

(3,761 posts)
39. I read the other day that EVERY time you look closely at an incident of a fully vaccinated person
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 07:40 AM
Oct 2021

contacting covid-19 there are one or more non-vaccinated people upstream.

From another thread: A new study concludes that 90,000 deaths could have been avoided over a period of four months, from June through September, if more people had gotten vaccinated.

mainer

(12,018 posts)
40. The fact it makes the news shows how rare it is
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:15 AM
Oct 2021

Compared to the tens of thousands of unvaccinated deaths.

helpisontheway

(5,005 posts)
41. Heartbreaking..I'm so worried about my son at a large university
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:22 AM
Oct 2021

I think 92% of students are vaccinated. The school requires masks indoors. However, he has asthma. He has had the flu a couple of times. Both times he ended up with pneumonia afterwards. Covid pneumonia scares me..

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
51. Glad to hear that 92%! Of course you're worried, but it sounds
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:52 AM
Oct 2021

like, with his experience, your son will be very aware of his vulnerabilities and what to do if a symptom of anything shows itself. That must be a huge plus in his column.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
52. Thanks. It's as we've always been told...
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:54 AM
Oct 2021

... the vaccine isn't 100% effective. It's certainly sad that he was in that small percentage.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
55. Per the family, he also had covid previously, before getting vaccinated.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:58 AM
Oct 2021

Per everything we know, he should have been highly immune after being both infected and vaccinated.
It appears to be a very rare situation.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
57. Yes it is. If the person (or persons unknown) who passed it on to him had also been vaccinated...
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 10:01 AM
Oct 2021
a very rare situation.
Yes it is. If the person (or persons unknown) who passed it on to him had also been vaccinated then this may not have happened.

helpisontheway

(5,005 posts)
43. His father said
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:28 AM
Oct 2021

“I didn’t feel like COVID was the main thing causing so many deaths but Shawn being as healthy as he was, and passing away from it, it’s definitely a monster not to be taken lightly,” Kuhn said.


https://www.cbs46.com/news/healthy-fully-vaccinated-uga-student-dies-from-covid-complications/article_6116aa80-2d38-11ec-ad11-c73009419ce3.html

Response to helpisontheway (Reply #43)

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
56. Or for crying out loud.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:59 AM
Oct 2021

Using your logic, nobody has died from covid, since everybody who dies from covid actually dies from pneumonia, or blood clots, and so on. Jeez.

speak easy

(9,189 posts)
58. Pneumonia is a medical term.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 10:02 AM
Oct 2021

If he died from pneumonia, he caught a secondary infection, and that was what killed him.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
59. Pneumonia is a known complication of covid.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 10:04 AM
Oct 2021

Just how does covid kill? One of the ways is that covid can attack the lungs, causing pneumonia.

"But Furuya says that this immune system response to this invader can also destroy lung tissue and cause inflammation. The end result can be pneumonia. That means the air sacs in the lungs become inflamed and filled with fluid, making it harder to breathe."

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/14/805289669/how-covid-19-kills-the-new-coronavirus-disease-can-take-a-deadly-turn

Response to LisaL (Reply #59)

Hav

(5,969 posts)
64. I agree with your position
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 10:16 AM
Oct 2021

If we deflect from Covid deaths after getting vaccinated due to complications that occurred after and because of the disease, then we are no different than those who downplayed Covid by arguing many died from other causes and not Covid.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
63. I can't believe that after all this time, we still have to argue that
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 10:14 AM
Oct 2021

covid in fact caused this student's death because he died from pneumonia, a very well known covid complication.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
65. Right. Speakeasy's position feeds into the right-wing meme.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 10:16 AM
Oct 2021

They use it to try to reduce the number of deaths from Covid. When pneumonia is a complication of Covid.

speak easy

(9,189 posts)
69. Nope.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 10:26 AM
Oct 2021

The massage damage to the lungs caused by the immune response to COVID can certainly kill you.

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
82. Means nothing really. It's just human interest at best.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 03:31 PM
Oct 2021

The vaccines aren't 100% effective. Of course fully vaccinated people still die of COVID. Unfortunately, some people might mistake the tiny number of such stories as somehow indicating the vaccines aren't fantastically effective. They might not get vaccinated and use this type of story as an excuse. Unfortunately, empathy and human interest sometimes combine grotesquely with poor critical thinking and sense of proportion to actually increase human suffering.

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