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Sad and scary-young, in shape, vaxxed, still dead.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fully-vaccinated-21-year-old-university-of-georgia-student-shawn-kuhn-dies-of-covid-19
Fully Vaccinated 21-Year-Old Student Dies of COVID-19
HEARTBREAKING
Blake Montgomery
Reporter/Editor
Published Oct. 15, 2021 7:48PM ET
sakabatou
(42,141 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)FakeNoose
(32,596 posts)IF ONLY more Americans took this plague seriously.
IF ONLY people got vaccinated, wore masks and practiced social distancing ... then MAYBE those of us who are already doing those things could remain safe.
Boomerproud
(7,943 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)these tragic cases strengthen the case for everybody to get vaccinated, of course, and hopefully to reduce the transmission as best as possible. It will always depend on the individual's body to fight an infection. That's why you shouldn't be an asshole and just get vaccinated. You do your part to protect those whose immune system isn't as strong or who get severe complications.
hibbing
(10,095 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,578 posts)piddyprints
(14,637 posts)brewens
(13,546 posts)were vaccinated but weren't. A guy could be terrified of getting the vaccination and say he did to get his family off his back about it. You never know.
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)We have read stories of batches of immunizations that had to be discarded because they weren't stored properly or something went wrong during manufacturing.
Remember this pharmacist: https://abcnews.go.com/US/pharmacist-sabotaged-vaccines-thought-unsafe-police/story?id=75019776
wnylib
(21,346 posts)and injected makes a difference in their effectivenness. I read about this about the handling of the vaccines months ago.
There is also the fact that some people mistakenly think that the vaccines make them completely immune. They don't mask up, distance themselves, or wash their hands often enough. Delta delivers a higher viral load than alpha did. If someone is exposed to the delta virus repeatedly among friends or out in the community, they will get an even larger dose exposure, making a breakthrough infection more serious.
I don't know the details of this young man's exposure or immune system, so I don't know what caused his secondary pneumonia to be so severe. What a tragedy, though.
Maraya1969
(22,464 posts)brewens
(13,546 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,789 posts)No confirmation he was vaccinated.
As a student he likely was in close contact with many students. Nothing as to whether the campus had any vaccine requirements.
moondust
(19,961 posts)That kind of contact tracing could be helpful.
GAdem2016
(41 posts)No, there are no campus requirements for vaccines or masks. I read about the young man in question in the UGA independent student newspaper Red and Black, who reported that his sister stated he was fully vaccinated.
As the mom of 19yo fully vaccinated kiddo at another Georgia school, this story scares me shitless. I think I'm going to have nighmares about it.
babylonsister
(171,035 posts)I think it will scare all parents; maybe the ones with kids who are not vaxxed might reconsider.
I'm vaxxed and old, scares me, too.
mzmolly
(50,980 posts)I too have a college student at home and worry as well. That said, we live in a state that strongly encourages vaccination.
calimary
(81,125 posts)My kids are on both sides of 30, and I STILL worry about em.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,583 posts)groundloop
(11,514 posts)(For those not familiar with the UGa - Ga. Tech rivalry that's part of our fight song).
In any case, yes, this damned pandemic needs to be taken seriously. It's an absolute shame that a young adult did the right thing by getting vaccinated yet still died. That just goes to show how bad this virus can be. Sadly this isolated breakthrough death will most certainly be used by anti-vaxxers to further their propaganda when the truth is that cases such as this are extremely rare.
I think by now most of us know one or more people who were killed by it.... my wife's brother in law who refused to get vaccinated died from Covid last month.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Stories like this make me even more disappointed that we are not being allowed to get booster shots.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)It sounds like Shawn may have died of pneumonia, brought on by Covid. Your kiddo's chances are very good, of course, but being vaccinated against the flu and pneumonia as well is a good idea for everyone.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)Go Dawgs!
(You can thank our Texas Aggies later. )
I saw this story on the news. Heartbreaking.
GAdem2016
(41 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,583 posts)mzmolly
(50,980 posts)I hope the University will reconsider their 'strongly encouraged' vs. required policy.
https://coronavirus.uga.edu/
I've been open minded on various vaccines, but not so much during a deadly pandemic.
róisín_dubh
(11,791 posts)I live in a Republican hell hole state (won't say which one).
I've had students out weekly since August. I'm getting my booster next week.
mzmolly
(50,980 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)babylonsister
(171,035 posts)Lots of outlets covering this.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/21-year-old-fully-vaccinated-uga-student-dies-covid-19-according-family/7JAQ6DX4BZFQLCFHU267QEUINI/
21-year-old fully-vaccinated UGA student dies of COVID-19, according to family
stopdiggin
(11,248 posts)but there's plenty of coverage and confirmation.
orleans
(34,042 posts)she posted a link to daily beast
want a few more links to make it more of a "legit" story?
here ya go:
https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/local/extraordinary-young-man-uga-senior-from-perry-dies-of-covid-19-complications/93-af0dc994-a98a-423c-8ed3-1a791fef31b2
https://www.ajc.com/education/uga-student-dies-from-covid-19-complications/EWGWOUBC3BGQXH43MQVR7PTAXA/
https://www.macon.com/news/coronavirus/article255033667.html
just because the kid's dad posted his love to his son on the kid's fb (or the dad's fb) -- that makes it a "FB story" ??
essentially everything is a damn fb story if you start labeling a wapo or nytimes article or opinion piece that gets posted on fb as a "fb story." (it's faster for me to post a link or article on fb or twitter then to send out several emails to family members or friends.) & i've linked to du -- so does that make various du posts "facebooky?"
all that broadbrushing just comes off pretentious as hell. btw--du has a fb page--96,000 followers
sorry if i misunderstood what you meant--just a bit tired of all the "judgy"ness and off-topic comments that have nothing to do with the original intent of the op
babylonsister
(171,035 posts)CottonBear
(21,596 posts)https://www.redandblack.com/uganews/uga-student-dies-of-covid-19-complications/article_7bc9f016-2c62-11ec-98c2-fb560b0bac12.html
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Shawn Kuhn, a senior majoring in exercise and sports science at the University of Georgia, passed away on Oct. 11 after battling COVID-19-based pneumonia for about six weeks. (Photo/Courtesy Sharla Brook Kuhn)
Shawn Kuhn, a senior majoring in exercise and sports science at the University of Georgia, passed away on Oct. 11 after battling COVID-19-based pneumonia for about six weeks.
Kuhn worked as a certified personal trainer at the UGA Ramsey Student Center and also worked at Chick-Fil-A on Atlanta Hwy, where he began as a server and quickly rose to a Team Leader. His aim was to become a certified physical therapist. Sharla Brook Kuhn, Shawn Kuhns older sister, said he was fully vaccinated.
I was roommates with Shawn throughout my sophomore and junior year. We would work out together, throw the Frisbee or just talk about our lives. He was always there to listen when I needed a shoulder to lean on or someone to talk to for comfort, said Cameron Russell, Kuhns close friend and a senior at UGA majoring in nutritional science. Since hearing about Shawns passing, I have been feeling pretty sad about losing this amazing person in my life. Shawn lived such a great life and has made a great impact on my life as well as many of those around him.
Kuhnoriginally from Perry, GA is remembered by his friends as a kind and passionate person.
...more...
Duppers
(28,117 posts)My vax'd son got a breakthough case but recovered. I had faith that he would but if I'd known about this case, I'd have been worried sick.
Keep those masks on, folks.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)Lets not overreact. The odds of a fully vaccinated 21 year old fit guy dying of Covid is unheard of.
How any 21 year old died in car crashed this week? Likely dozens.
stopdiggin
(11,248 posts)and I'll emphasize strongly remains - that the fully vaccinated are enjoying remarkable protection from severe illness. Can we absolutely promise 100%? No. But medicine rarely does.
Poiuyt
(18,117 posts)I have a fully vaccinated friend who caught covid and ended up in the hospital. It turned out that he had some kind of mass in his lungs that made things so bad for him.
toughtony
(88 posts)I worked with was already sick when he got his first shot. DON'T WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE SICK, GET THE SHOT WHILE YOU ARE HEALTHY, GET TESTED FIRST. This guy had been tested positive before he got his shot.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)To-do list: Flu and pneumonia shots
Jon King
(1,910 posts)I highly doubt you could find another case like this. This is a once in a million thing.
Likely he had something else going on too. 99.9999% of people in his situation would not have died of Covid.
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)People walk around all the time with medicAl conditions that are not immediately apparent to them. Cancer and heart disease are 2 examples.
ProfessorGAC
(64,867 posts)Unless there was an extensive genetic test plan done, anybody could have complicating factors that otherwise wouldn't manifest themselves for years or decades.
And since that kind of testing is expensive, I doubt many people would have a sense of their potential propensity for these factors.
A healthy 21 year old not able to fight off pneumonia for 6 weeks has to be incredibly rare. An unknown complicating factor is certainly within the realm of possibility.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)Has his vaccination status really been verified? Did he have something else going on? I do see that the photograph of him shows a young man who looks very fit and trim, and it says he was an exercise science major, so you'd think he'd be one of the healthier people out there.
And is the pneumonia brought on by Covid exactly the same as Covid itself?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)ascribed to influenza. And it's also a common, very serious complication of Covid infection, apparently like Shawn's.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,104 posts)and get out as seldom as possible. People who act like this is over are not being smart.
Bear Creek
(883 posts)Time to consider pulling it or have everyone who has taken it get a booster ASAP. That vaccine was supposed to be for sparsely populated areas. From the beginning has a very low efficiency rating.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)He was also apparently infected with covid previously.
He should have been super immune (infected then vaccinated). I guess he was particularly susceptible to effects of covid for some unknown reasons.
"Kuhn said his son Shawn caught COVID-19 in December last year but only felt mild symptoms. He said he then got both his Pfizer vaccines in April and May. Then caught COVID again in August and was in and out of hospital until he passed this week."
https://www.cbs46.com/news/healthy-fully-vaccinated-uga-student-dies-from-covid-complications/article_6116aa80-2d38-11ec-ad11-c73009419ce3.html
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)retread
(3,761 posts)contacting covid-19 there are one or more non-vaccinated people upstream.
From another thread: A new study concludes that 90,000 deaths could have been avoided over a period of four months, from June through September, if more people had gotten vaccinated.
mainer
(12,018 posts)Compared to the tens of thousands of unvaccinated deaths.
helpisontheway
(5,005 posts)I think 92% of students are vaccinated. The school requires masks indoors. However, he has asthma. He has had the flu a couple of times. Both times he ended up with pneumonia afterwards. Covid pneumonia scares me..
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)like, with his experience, your son will be very aware of his vulnerabilities and what to do if a symptom of anything shows itself. That must be a huge plus in his column.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)LisaL
(44,972 posts)NT
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... the vaccine isn't 100% effective. It's certainly sad that he was in that small percentage.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)Per everything we know, he should have been highly immune after being both infected and vaccinated.
It appears to be a very rare situation.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)helpisontheway
(5,005 posts)I didnt feel like COVID was the main thing causing so many deaths but Shawn being as healthy as he was, and passing away from it, its definitely a monster not to be taken lightly, Kuhn said.
https://www.cbs46.com/news/healthy-fully-vaccinated-uga-student-dies-from-covid-complications/article_6116aa80-2d38-11ec-ad11-c73009419ce3.html
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speak easy
(9,189 posts)Shawn Kuhn did not die from COVID-19.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)NT
speak easy
(9,189 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)No Covid. No pneumonia.
speak easy
(9,189 posts)Not COVID.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)Using your logic, nobody has died from covid, since everybody who dies from covid actually dies from pneumonia, or blood clots, and so on. Jeez.
speak easy
(9,189 posts)If he died from pneumonia, he caught a secondary infection, and that was what killed him.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)Just how does covid kill? One of the ways is that covid can attack the lungs, causing pneumonia.
"But Furuya says that this immune system response to this invader can also destroy lung tissue and cause inflammation. The end result can be pneumonia. That means the air sacs in the lungs become inflamed and filled with fluid, making it harder to breathe."
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/14/805289669/how-covid-19-kills-the-new-coronavirus-disease-can-take-a-deadly-turn
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Hav
(5,969 posts)If we deflect from Covid deaths after getting vaccinated due to complications that occurred after and because of the disease, then we are no different than those who downplayed Covid by arguing many died from other causes and not Covid.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)LisaL
(44,972 posts)covid in fact caused this student's death because he died from pneumonia, a very well known covid complication.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)They use it to try to reduce the number of deaths from Covid. When pneumonia is a complication of Covid.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)NT
The massage damage to the lungs caused by the immune response to COVID can certainly kill you.
live love laugh
(13,081 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)causes the heart to fail.
live love laugh
(13,081 posts)Elessar Zappa
(13,911 posts)due to the COVID 19 virus. He most certainly died of COVID.
gulliver
(13,168 posts)The vaccines aren't 100% effective. Of course fully vaccinated people still die of COVID. Unfortunately, some people might mistake the tiny number of such stories as somehow indicating the vaccines aren't fantastically effective. They might not get vaccinated and use this type of story as an excuse. Unfortunately, empathy and human interest sometimes combine grotesquely with poor critical thinking and sense of proportion to actually increase human suffering.