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634-5789

(4,175 posts)
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:10 AM Oct 2021

Evangelical 'Christians' declare war in Halloween and want call it JesusWeen. No, really.

No, really.

Evangelicals can't get enough of conservative Jesus—the judgy one—so they want to put him everywhere: on Starbucks cups, in schools and even in the 'ween.

Yes, you read that correctly.

Halloween, also known as All Hallow's Eve—the precursor to All Saints Day on November 1—is not hallowed enough for the likes of some Evangelical Christians.

Instead, they would prefer to transform the holiday into "JesusWeen."

https://crooksandliars.com/2021/10/evangelical-christians-declare-war

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Evangelical 'Christians' declare war in Halloween and want call it JesusWeen. No, really. (Original Post) 634-5789 Oct 2021 OP
All Hallows' Eve was invented by Christians. Iggo Oct 2021 #1
All Hallows' Eve was a church holy day, the day before All Saints Day. CurtEastPoint Oct 2021 #5
Like I said. Invented by Christians. Iggo Oct 2021 #7
Or stolen. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2021 #6
No, really. Corgigal Oct 2021 #2
This is old news dsc Oct 2021 #3
Well, they have stolen every other Pagan holy day, so I am not surprised. niyad Oct 2021 #4
+1 2naSalit Oct 2021 #10
The only things original in their belief system are the concepts of original sin and hell. niyad Oct 2021 #19
Yup. 2naSalit Oct 2021 #21
THIS!!!! FalloutShelter Oct 2021 #12
You are most welcome. niyad Oct 2021 #17
"Goin' trick or treat'n on the ween" LOL Javaman Oct 2021 #8
So that would make them Jesusweenies, huh? Maeve Oct 2021 #9
I'm surprised they even admit Jesus had a ween. Croney Oct 2021 #11
Can we call Trick-Or-Treaters JesusWeeners? Midnight Writer Oct 2021 #13
Poor Jesus 70sEraVet Oct 2021 #14
There they go again, trying to force themselves... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #15
I have heard reference to this idea... 2naSalit Oct 2021 #24
There's been a lot of evidence for it. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #26
May I PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE design the... ret5hd Oct 2021 #16
They have been doing that for years. We went to a 'spirit filled' Methodist church in Georgia... Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #18
Methodists are often a "liberal denomination", but... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #20
Better than a hell house GPV Oct 2021 #22
Uh... Sylvarose Oct 2021 #23
And I shall call them Jesus-Weenies Wicked Blue Oct 2021 #25
Ooh ooh ooh...Jehovas Weenusses ret5hd Oct 2021 #27
I've seen a lot of Christian churches that embrace Halloween Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #28
Yeah, me too. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #30
Cnn and MSNBC should run with... TheRealNorth Oct 2021 #29

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
2. No, really.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:15 AM
Oct 2021

I have been fighting these same assholes for years. Let the kids dress up , and get candy. So my house gets all decked out, I give treat bags with toys. I get around 80 kids a year. Unlike the above religion trying to take a fun moment from a child, I’m giving back.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
3. This is old news
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:15 AM
Oct 2021

When I was growing up there were churches that didn't do Halloween and didn't let their kids participate at school. It has grown over the years (or maybe my being in a different region matters here) but this has been a thing for decades.

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
10. +1
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:28 AM
Oct 2021

It's what they do, mess up other peoples' practices to fit into their strained belief system which co-opts other belief system practices. Been going on for millennia.

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
9. So that would make them Jesusweenies, huh?
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:20 AM
Oct 2021

All Hallows Eve was the Celtic New Year's Eve and a time when the worlds merge; an in-between time when ghosts could return, fortunes could be read and strange spirits (or the Fairfolk) could be abroad. In America, it has become a time for playing with our fears and learning to overcome them--something that scares certain types of religious bigots because fear is their stock in trade.

Croney

(4,657 posts)
11. I'm surprised they even admit Jesus had a ween.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:28 AM
Oct 2021

Not really necessary when you have all that magical thinking.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
15. There they go again, trying to force themselves...
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:35 AM
Oct 2021

... on everyone else like right-wing authoritarians.

I've met plenty of other Christians who maybe don't like homosexuality or other things, but they don't try to take ACTION against it. They have more of a "live and let live" attitude about it, even if they're confused by it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism
Right-wing authoritarians want society and social interactions structured in ways that increase uniformity and minimize diversity. In order to achieve that, they tend to be in favour of social control, coercion and the use of group authority to place constraints on the behaviours of people such as political dissidents and immigrants. These constraints might include restrictions on immigration, limits on free speech and association and laws regulating moral behaviour. It is the willingness to support or take action that leads to increased social uniformity that makes right-wing authoritarianism more than just a personal distaste for difference. Right-wing authoritarianism is characterized by obedience to authority, moral absolutism and punitiveness towards dissidents and deviants.


Surprise, surprise... given all of Trump's promises in 2016 to PUNISH various people:

The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter: And it’s not gender, age, income, race or religion.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533/
...I’ve found a single statistically significant variable predicts whether a voter supports Trump—and it’s not race, income or education levels: It’s authoritarianism.

That’s right, Trump’s electoral strength—and his staying power—have been buoyed, above all, by Americans with authoritarian inclinations.

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
24. I have heard reference to this idea...
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:59 AM
Oct 2021

On some radio program in the past few days, don't ask where right now. I know I heard it on the radio which is always on NPR when it's on.

I tend to agree that this phenomena would be a primary factor since other traits stem from that.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
26. There's been a lot of evidence for it.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:16 AM
Oct 2021

Right-wing authoritarians exist all over the world, but many of them are attracted to the more action-oriented evangelical churches in the USA. Such as their compulsion to convert others rather than accepting them as they are.

At one time, the Roman Catholic church was more that way. But that kind of pushy behavior is more common among evangelical Christians today, at least in the USA.

They'd be easily drawn to some other authoritarian figure besides Trump, but he's their current hero for promising to "lock up" Hillary Clinton and the like.

The QAnon movement is another example. They actually believed that "Q" worked within the government with the highest clearance, and his promises that all of the Democrats and Republicans-in-name-only (RINOs) would get sent to Guantanamo Bay by Trump, where they'd be executed!

Edit: And I'm sure there's some churches labeled as "evangelical" out there, but their leaders preach more tolerance of others.
I doubt that most black evangelical Christians are as pushy and authoritarian as the white ones, given their history of dealing with intolerance in this country.

ret5hd

(20,487 posts)
16. May I PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE design the...
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:39 AM
Oct 2021

Last edited Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:24 AM - Edit history (1)

yard decorations for this new holiday???

On edit: Spouse said “No”.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
18. They have been doing that for years. We went to a 'spirit filled' Methodist church in Georgia...
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:43 AM
Oct 2021

no Episcopal church for miles...and they sent home letters to parents about how kids should not trick or treat and how Halloween was the devil's holiday. I of course ignored their silly missives and my kids had fun. We found an independent church nearby that helped the poor and welcomed everyone.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
20. Methodists are often a "liberal denomination", but...
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:46 AM
Oct 2021

... there's indeed some exceptions.

It started out as more liberal than other denominations too, with them and Quakers generally being the most anti-slavery for example.

Sylvarose

(210 posts)
23. Uh...
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:52 AM
Oct 2021

...as a Christian who loves Halloween and has celebrated it many times with my pagan friends....uh nope. Halloween is fine just the way it is, thank you. In fact, I always leave a little something out for my ancestors on Halloween. I'm sure the raccoons appreciate the special treat, but I love l this way of honoring and remembering loved ones who have passed. I don't see how it and the more mainstream traditions like trick-or-treating, bobbing-for-apples, or telling spooky stories are in conflict with any of Christ's teachings.

Elessar Zappa

(13,941 posts)
28. I've seen a lot of Christian churches that embrace Halloween
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:30 AM
Oct 2021

and even have “carnivals” in their church on Halloween night. And I’m talking about real Halloween with ghosts, vampires and witches, not the “harvest” Halloween that some evangelical churches peddle.

TheRealNorth

(9,474 posts)
29. Cnn and MSNBC should run with...
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:48 AM
Oct 2021

"The Republican war on Halloween" or "Republicans try to cancel Halloween". You know they have been dying to extend the Christmas Holiday season into October, and Halloween gets in the way of that.

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