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China has the fastest missile in the world. Hypersonic. (Original Post) Cattledog Oct 2021 OP
Oh Great, just what the world needs. walkingman Oct 2021 #1
Damn technology! dchill Oct 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #3
If that's actually true, trust me, it will soon be detectable (by the US at least) Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2021 #4
The US is working hard on its own hypersonics jpak Oct 2021 #5
Based on the last few years, I worry more about the US being stupid with nukes. walkingman Oct 2021 #6
I'm not too worried about Chinese hypersonic missiles jpak Oct 2021 #8
I'm more worried about India and Pakistan. marie999 Oct 2021 #10
Well China just escalated it, now the US and Russia will have to scramble to catch up Devil Child Oct 2021 #18
In many ways we're back to where we were in the heart of the cold war Amishman Oct 2021 #7
MAD works jpak Oct 2021 #9
What, Mme. Defarge Oct 2021 #11
Yeah, it did. roamer65 Oct 2021 #12
Russia has them too: They test launching them from "quiet" nuclear submarines. Justice matters. Oct 2021 #13
Other countries also "work" on developing their own nuclear-winter devices... Justice matters. Oct 2021 #14
All long-range ballistic missile systems are hypersonic. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #15
Hypersonic glide vehicles instead of traditional ballistic missile trajectory Devil Child Oct 2021 #19
I know. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #20
"The Past Isn't Dead. It Isn't Even Past" RFCalifornia Oct 2021 #16
We don't know shit about shit ok? CrackityJones75 Oct 2021 #17

Response to Cattledog (Original post)

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. If that's actually true, trust me, it will soon be detectable (by the US at least)
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:32 PM
Oct 2021

It ain't invisible, which means it can be detected, just have to have the right tech.

Which we will ... quickly.

Rest of the world ... I dunno.

jpak

(41,756 posts)
5. The US is working hard on its own hypersonics
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:36 PM
Oct 2021

And will field them in the next couple of years.

They aren't the fractional orbit bombardment missiles like China may have tested, but they would get to China first.

I have not heard any buzz about whether they are nuclear armed, but they appear to be conventional (non nuclear).

China would be utterly stupid to attack the US with nukes, hypersonic or not.

walkingman

(7,577 posts)
6. Based on the last few years, I worry more about the US being stupid with nukes.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:50 PM
Oct 2021

That is the reason that I think this ever escalating technological arms race as very, very dangerous.

jpak

(41,756 posts)
8. I'm not too worried about Chinese hypersonic missiles
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:19 PM
Oct 2021

If they launched them, they would be immediately detected by US satellites.

And how would a nuclear warhead inside a glide body survive the heat they would be subjected to?

And they are wildly inaccurate.

Supposedly this test missed its target by 24 miles.

That's not even 1950's tech.

That said, psychopathic assholes like like Trump are the real threat.

Yup

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
18. Well China just escalated it, now the US and Russia will have to scramble to catch up
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 11:00 PM
Oct 2021

Not surprising since China has zero interest in participating in nuclear arms reduction treaties.

Amishman

(5,553 posts)
7. In many ways we're back to where we were in the heart of the cold war
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:10 PM
Oct 2021

There is no viable defense, only mutually assured destruction from retaliatory strikes from the opposing side's missile submarines.

China has a horrific vulnerability in the form of Three Gorges Dam, that wouldn't even require a nuclear strike to trigger apocalyptic damage.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
12. Yeah, it did.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:36 PM
Oct 2021

In certain ways, I miss the Soviet Union.

There was a certain stability to it back then.

Justice matters.

(6,915 posts)
13. Russia has them too: They test launching them from "quiet" nuclear submarines.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:50 PM
Oct 2021
"quiet" nuclear submarines in the sense that they are very hard to detect.

Justice matters.

(6,915 posts)
14. Other countries also "work" on developing their own nuclear-winter devices...
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:14 PM
Oct 2021
Russia and North Korea both claim to have successfully test-launched hypersonic missiles.

India, Japan, Australia, France and Germany are meanwhile in the process of developing such weapons, according to a report published in August by the US Congressional Research Service (CRS).

The CRS report said a number of other states – including Iran, Israel, and South Korea – have also “conducted foundational research on hypersonic airflows and propulsion systems, but may not be pursuing a hypersonic weapons capability at this time”.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/18/china-denies-report-of-hypersonic-missile-test

(Of course China denies it... I don't believe any of their "denials" after what they did to two Canadians.)
 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
17. We don't know shit about shit ok?
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:53 PM
Oct 2021

To say that China has the best or fastest anything military wise because of something in the press is laughable at best. Its the shit that we have absolutely bo idea about that matters.

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