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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeattle Police and Firefighters swore they'd quit rather than get vaxxed! Hundreds!
The news ran with it for weeks. Were so screwed! Your house will burn! Youll never get 9-1-1!
The deadline in in a couple of days. Sixteen firefighters and 24 cops are still holding out. 😂
Remember not to let them get to you with speculation and hysteria.
brewens
(13,557 posts)The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,408 posts)we can do it
(12,178 posts)Captain Zero
(6,799 posts)So these people spend a work day out in public and for certain around some people with the potential to give them the Covid virus. But. Their personal choice is to do that, possibly get infected and THEN take it home to spouses, kids, elderly relatives, neighbors, etc.
They don't understand being in public service and PROTECTING their community. They really don't. Let them go.
we can do it
(12,178 posts)Selfish assholes who never should have taken on the job.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)on their swords for. If they really want to prove the point they would give up their benefits as well.
William Gustafson
(294 posts)and imagine when they get Covid, the hospital and doctors bill that they will have to pay out of their own pockets... which will be empty because they quit their jobs.... plus they might need a plastic surgeon to put that nose they cut off, back on.....
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)So they won't lose those benefits, and they're pretty (very) generous by civil service standards. I'm not sure it's possible to take their retirement benefits.
IronLionZion
(45,403 posts)we'll see about that too as COVID numbers have been declining.
TheBlackAdder
(28,179 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:34 PM - Edit history (1)
we can do it
(12,178 posts)Autumn
(45,014 posts)Dave Bowman
(1,862 posts)lpbk2713
(42,750 posts)Their co-workers would probably rather not care to have a threat to their health in close proximity.
Stinky The Clown
(67,776 posts)Then fire the shitbirds.
we can do it
(12,178 posts)Salviati
(6,008 posts)They don't work until the vaccine is fully effective.
My preferred solution would be to fire the lot of them, effective tomorrow. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
weissmam
(905 posts)ass-holes
IbogaProject
(2,800 posts)I bet those 40 are just getting an extra month of pay before they retire.
Bev54
(10,044 posts)who think they will just retire during a disciplinary action, they will lose their pension.
hay rick
(7,600 posts)DemInBuckhead
(110 posts)The cops who have been on the force for, say, 15 years and are closer to their retirement were never going to quit, lose their pension, and start over at 0 seniority somewhere else.
marble falls
(57,060 posts)catrose
(5,065 posts)Since the police went and defunded themselves.
It's actually hard to hire police in Seattle, but Seattle is also a place ready and willing to replace police with other professionals. A couple dozen bad apples won't be missed, especially when more effective use can be found for the money that would have paid them
Scruffy1
(3,254 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)This has to be the absolute dumbest one of all time.
kentuck
(111,069 posts)They will rebel.
You have to persuade them.
bottomofthehill
(8,327 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)samnsara
(17,615 posts)orleans
(34,043 posts)"Just 54% of Chicago Police Officers Tell City Officials They Are Vaccinated Against COVID-19"
More than 35.6% of the Chicago Police Department 4,543 employees are in jeopardy of being disciplined and eventually fired for failing to comply with Mayor Lori Lightfoots order that they disclose their vaccination status to the city.
The Chicago Police Department has the lowest rate of compliance with the citys vaccine mandate of all of the 15 city departments, according to the data. Before a judge ordered him on Friday to stop bashing the vaccine mandate, Fraternal Order of Police President John Catanzara repeatedly called for officers to defy the citys order.
https://news.wttw.com/2021/10/18/just-54-chicago-police-officers-tell-city-officials-they-are-vaccinated-against-covid-19
(on edit: the vaccine deadline for the cops was last friday)
the city sent out emails to a number of towns asking if they would loan out a special division to help with various emergencies such as swat. kane county said no--
glad it's better in seattle
Lasher
(27,553 posts)In the 2006 bulletin, the FBI detailed the threat of white nationalists and skinheads infiltrating police in order to disrupt investigations against fellow members and recruit other supremacists. The bulletin was released during a period of scandal for many law enforcement agencies throughout the country, including a neo-Nazi gang formed by members of the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department who harassed black and Latino communities. Similar investigations revealed officers and entire agencies with hate group ties in Illinois, Ohio and Texas.
Much of the bulletin has been redacted, but in it, the FBI identified white supremacists in law enforcement as a concern, because of their access to both restricted areas vulnerable to sabotage and elected officials or people who could be seen as potential targets for violence. The memo also warned of ghost skins, hate group members who dont overtly display their beliefs in order to blend into society and covertly advance white supremacist causes.
At least one white supremacist group has reportedly encouraged ghost skins to seek positions in law enforcement for the capability of alerting skinhead crews of pending investigative action against them, the report read.
Problems with white supremacists in law enforcement have surfaced since that report. In 2014, two Florida officers including a deputy police chief were fired after an FBI informant outed them as members of the Ku Klux Klan. It marked the second time within five years that the agency uncovered an officers membership in the KKK. Several agencies nationwide have also launched investigations into personnel who may not be formal hate group members, but face allegations of race-based misconduct.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement
mopinko
(70,067 posts)they think they can play this like a 'blue flu' action.
lori lightfoot- "we're not having that", and filed a lawsuit.
ProfessorGAC
(64,957 posts)I read that report yesterday'.
The way it's framed is that 54% REPORT being fully vaxxed. But, that doesn't mean 46% aren't vaxxed.
The number reporting they aren't vaxxed was relatively tiny.
Given the leadership & union are encouraging resistance, I wonder how many of that 46% are vaxxed but don't want to declare, worried about push back from the idiots among them.
So, the number might be way higher than 54%, but the system is rigged against accurate figures.
orleans
(34,043 posts)i would have responded earlier but my damn internet has been out (since the "landscapers" mowed over the unburied cable wires!)
certainot
(9,090 posts)ShazzieB
(16,348 posts)Those cops and firefighters probably thought that if they yelled and screamed enough and threatened to hold their breath till they turned blue (i.e., quit their jobs), the powers that be would back off and go, "Oh, sorry, guys! We were just kidding! You don't REALLY have to get vaxxed! Oops, our bad!"
Then they found out that was not going to happen and the choice was actually "Get the jab or you're out of a job, for realz! No backsies!" And most of them realized they actually didn't want to give up their paycheck to make a political statement! That seems to be what's happening a lot of places, and I'm going through a lot of popcorn watching all this play out.
nolabear
(41,956 posts)Theyre used to shoving their way along and thought they were important enough to hold the actual powers hostage. Nope.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)$48,078
Starting salary for Chicago police officers in 2016 is $48,078, which is increased to $72,510 after 18 months. Promotions to specialized or command positions also increase an officer's base pay. Salaries were supplemented with a $2,920 annual duty availability and an $1,800 annual uniform allowance.
Annual budget: $1.7 billion (2020)
Employees: 13,086 (2020)
.
Chicago Police Department - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Police_Department
packman
(16,296 posts)Morons
Aristus
(66,307 posts)Now is their opportunity!
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)I'll continue to pound on them as long as I can draw a breath.
Fucking profit driven fear mongers.
Oppaloopa
(867 posts)My brother in law is a trumper in South Carolina . His doctor sat him down and talked to him Now he has 2 shots and his booster.
llashram
(6,265 posts)journalism at all anymore. It's all drama and profit-driven LIES.
live love laugh
(13,094 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,838 posts)nolabear
(41,956 posts)Except this is today.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,656 posts)Their attitude seems to be "how dare you tell me to do anything, peon. I wear a badge."
They'll lose their job and get rehired in a new precinct that has endemic issues, like Albuquerque.
634-5789
(4,175 posts)Scrivener7
(50,934 posts)Paladin
(28,246 posts)samnsara
(17,615 posts)3auld6phart
(1,044 posts)Please quit. It will save the taxpayers a load. Not having to
pay for your Hospital fees, funeral expenses, widows pension.
Over 400 + LEOs have died from Covid. Some before the vac-
cone became available. But quite a few refused the shot. Sad.
Any and all employees that are public civil servants that re-
fuse the vaccines should be terminated.
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)boss said, yay I don't have to fire anyone lol we have a few people who grumbled but they still did it