Passengers who did not intervene in sexual assault on train could face charges: report

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Passengers who recorded an alleged incident of sexual assault on a train near Philadelphia but did not intervene or call authorities could face charges, though local prosecutors cast doubt on the idea Tuesday.

"It would be up to the Delaware County district attorney's office to make such a decision after the police finish their investigation and submit their findings," Upper Darby Township Police Department Superintendent Timothy Bernhardt said in a press conference, The New York Times reported.

Bernhardt said that the bystander footage he reviewed showed that the passengers had an opportunity to intervene for 40 minutes while the victim was allegedly assaulted by the suspect, 35-year-old Fiston Ngoy.

The surveillance video also showed the victim allegedly pushing Ngoy away multiple times until he is seen forcefully ripping her pants down at about 9:52 p.m., police said, according to the Times.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/passengers-who-did-not-intervene-in-sexual-assault-on-train-could-face-charges-report/ar-AAPHSKx

[LisaL]

1. Charges of what, though?

PA doesn't have a good Samaritan law.

[Ace Rothstein]

10. I'm guessing recording a rape is definitely illegal.

[LisaL]

11. You are guessing?

What's the charge then? It's in a public place, with surveillance cameras. Why is recording in a public place illegal?

[Ace Rothstein]

12. Yes, do you really think recording a rape is ok?

What is wrong with you?

[LisaL]

13. Not Ok and illegal are not one and the same.

WTF says it was o'key?

[Ace Rothstein]

14. Taking photos up women's skirts is illegal.

I'm sure there a myriad of laws that address this behavior. It isn't just about recording in a public place.

[LisaL]

15. Name one.

NT

[Ace Rothstein]

16. Why are you so adamant about making excuses for not charging these terrible people?

[LisaL]

18. I am not making excuse for anybody.

I have a question as to what they can actually be charged with. Jeez.

[Ace Rothstein]

20. Invasion of privacy? I'm not a State's Attorney so I don't know.

[LisaL]

22. Invasion of privacy in a public place?

NT

[Ace Rothstein]

23. Yes

circumstances in which a reasonable person would believe that a private area of the individual would not be visible to the public, regardless of whether that person is in a public or private place

[treestar]

24. There has to be a charge

Things are not illegal because you think they should be. A simple question of "what is the charge" does not approve it as you assume.

[Ace Rothstein]

26. And it is the District Attorney saying there may be charges based on the investigation.

I trust they know what they are talking about.

[LisaL]

27. DA is saying that at this time no charges are expected.

Way to twist that quote completely around.

[Ace Rothstein]

29. I'll admit I got it backwards reading that paragraph.

Your comments in this thread are pretty gross though.

[LisaL]

30. Asking what charges are actually possible is gross?

All righty then.

[Ace Rothstein]

31. You equated surveillance cameras to people recording a rape.

Gross

[LisaL]

33. Don't lie about what I said.

NT

[marble falls]

2. Good. Put them in the cell with Ngoy and tell them not to worry, it'll all be on security tape.

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. That's funny, I remember once either here or my other board being told how WRONG I was when

I suggested those who stood by and watched someone do harm, like trump and others, be charged.

That how wrong I was that there is NO FUCKING way that could be done.

[LisaL]

21. That's the quote from the article.

"The Delaware County District Attorney's Office, however, told The Hill that "this is an ongoing investigation but at the present time there is no expectation that charges will be brought against passengers.""

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/passengers-who-did-not-intervene-in-sexual-assault-on-train-could-face-charges-report/ar-AAPHSKx

[Skittles]

4. 40 minutes

WTF

[smirkymonkey]

32. The though of that makes me feel physically ill.

SMH.

What on earth is wrong with people?

[Skittles]

34. I wish they would print their names

call these fuckers out - they are way worse than any "Karens" - heck, Karen would call for help for sure

[LisaL]

35. I don't think police knows who they are.

We haven't heard anything about any witnesses coming forward.

[Permanut]

5. We could talk about fear and reluctance to get involved..

but let's not. They're cowards.

Bystander cowardice always brings to mind the Kitty Genovese case of 1964.

[a kennedy]

6. AND THEY WERE ALL FILMING IT!!!!!! 🤬 🤬 🤬

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

7. Curious to hear what charges though

Pennsylvania doesn't have "duty to help" law. Only around 9 or 10 states do, and they all vary in specifics themselves.

[LisaL]

8. My question as well.

Notice the article doesn't mention what kind of charges are even possible. I presume because no charges are actually possible.

[niyad]

9. FORTY FUCKING MINUTES.?????? WHILE FILMING IT???

May they all receive everything they deserve.

[berniesandersmittens]

19. This

[Generic Brad]

17. That's the train my daughter normally takes daily

She told me this morning she was so thankful she's currently working on her doctoral thesis in a different state this month. It really shook her up. When she was riding that line daily she told me she was getting sexually harassed by groups of young men with increasing regularity and was fearing it was close to getting out of hand last month.

[elleng]

25. "Misprision of felony" is a crime that occurs when someone knows

a felony has been committed but fails to inform the authorities about it. The crime originated in English common law and required that citizens report crimes or face criminal prosecution.

Reporting Crimes: Witnessing, Ignoring, Falsely Reporting, and Lying
Although there's no general legal duty to report crime, many exceptions exist.

https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/criminal/criminal-law-basics/reporting-crimes-witnessing-ignoring-falsely-reporting-and-lying.html

[LisaL]

28. Defendant has to take steps to conceal the crime.

So it doesn't fit.

[LiberatedUSA]

36. Did Seinfeld just become real life?

Charging people for not putting their life in danger and risking civil suits from other parties should not hold up.

“You didn’t try to stop that violent attacker, now we will fine and maybe jail you for it. Also, if you tried to stop them and got hurt, that bill is on you. Also, if the criminal decides to sue you, that is on you. But you better fucking do it or we will charge you!”

[twin_ghost]

37. though local prosecutors cast doubt on the idea Tuesday.

[LisaL]

38. Because there doesn't appear to be an actual charge they can be charged with.

PA doesn't have a good Samaritan law.

[LizBeth]

39. Charge them, especially the perverts degenerates that filmed and put on net.