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Botany

(70,501 posts)
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:07 AM Oct 2021

Liz Cheney, "Trump appears to have been 'personally involved in planning and execution of Jan 6 ....

insurrection."

No shit. Trump:

Helped to pay for it.

Gave out over a dozen invitations to the violence in which he gave the day, the date, the time, and the place.

Had his chief of staff Nick Mulvaney's niece fill out the paper work for the permit for his pre-riot pep talk.

Told the crowd to go and storm the Capitol so as to protect America's freedoms.

Fired Sec. of Defense Mark Esper and installed Christopher Miller who gave stand down orders to the D.C.
National Guard on 1/4/21.

Refused to call of his supporters when asked to do so from Rep. McCarthy and V.P. Pence.

Watched the violence and chaos on T.V. and did nothing.

Knew of planning sessions for the violence in 2 different D.C. Hotels.

And at the end of the day let the violent thugs walk away and told them that he loved them and was
proud of them. President Trump’s Chilling Message to Violent Mob Overtaking Capitol: "Go Home. We Love You, You’re
Very Special."

https://variety.com/2021/politics/news/trump-protesters-riot-capitol-video-1234879939/


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What Trump was looking for on 1/6/21 was to have so much violence up to and including the muder
of Speaker Pelosi & Vice President Pence so he could declare martial law and stop the Constitutionally
mandated transfer of power.

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Liz Cheney, "Trump appears to have been 'personally involved in planning and execution of Jan 6 .... (Original Post) Botany Oct 2021 OP
Exactly! FalloutShelter Oct 2021 #1
I really hate to see what his plan looked like in his fevered imagination Walleye Oct 2021 #2
Trump is on tape telling Georgia's Sec. of State's lawyer something like; "Big things will be .... Botany Oct 2021 #4
Mob bosses speak in that kind of code, too, and we managed to convict them all the time Walleye Oct 2021 #7
unpopular Opinion Nikki28 Oct 2021 #3
Seems to me like she's pretty smart, savvy, sets her apart from other GOP Walleye Oct 2021 #8
Liz gets more anti-trump in the news because she is a republican empedocles Oct 2021 #13
In a couple of years, every Republican politician will be anxiously telling reporters 70sEraVet Oct 2021 #14
I would say that is an accurate prophecy Walleye Oct 2021 #16
In a couple of years, there will be no Republican politicians. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #25
On every other issue of importance, she is as right-wing as they come..... lastlib Oct 2021 #18
correct. this person's 'policy' positions stopdiggin Oct 2021 #33
Being Darth Vader's daughter helps a lot with that power thing, I mean politically of course. ShazamIam Oct 2021 #29
Man, one thing I will say about Liz Cheney... SKKY Oct 2021 #5
😊 BlueSky3 Oct 2021 #21
K&R... spanone Oct 2021 #6
Huge K&R mvd Oct 2021 #9
I think she was trying to send a message to her constituency in Wyoming... kentuck Oct 2021 #10
She is gonna rub the truth about TFG in their faces and they are will have to take it. Botany Oct 2021 #11
Right. She ought to be credited by smart Republicans for this 'tough love' approach. ancianita Oct 2021 #15
The purge of the worst Trump cadre is inevitable. Mopar151 Oct 2021 #31
Of course Trump was in on the planning. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2021 #12
But... but... but... Justice is slow... Justice matters. Oct 2021 #17
every one of insurrection people acted on a promise that they would get a pardon ! monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #19
that statement requires some explanation stopdiggin Oct 2021 #34
He had a freaking tailgate party going. LisaM Oct 2021 #20
I suspect that Dick Cheney is far wealthier than TFG and still has some power with Republicans. Lonestarblue Oct 2021 #22
5 Words out of TFG's mob mouth to Georgia officials: SayItLoud Oct 2021 #23
Well, it's a good thing DOJ is keeping its powder dry. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #24
Gee, when you put it THAT way.... Mr. Ected Oct 2021 #26
That's the thing, no other former POTUS has ever contested an election Rhiannon12866 Oct 2021 #32
Of course trump's big bloated Cha Oct 2021 #27
She needs to have a nice talk with AG Garland triron Oct 2021 #28
If the gop were gonna dump together, this is what it would look like. lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #30
The insurrection was made to appear to be a popular uprising bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #35

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
2. I really hate to see what his plan looked like in his fevered imagination
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:10 AM
Oct 2021

I think he would’ve been delighted to see a couple of assassinations. We need to subpoena Trump to testify

Botany

(70,501 posts)
4. Trump is on tape telling Georgia's Sec. of State's lawyer something like; "Big things will be ....
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:13 AM
Oct 2021

.... happening on Jan. 6th.

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
7. Mob bosses speak in that kind of code, too, and we managed to convict them all the time
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:19 AM
Oct 2021

Any Muslim terror attack is called Isis inspired or something. This is the best example of politically inspired violence I’ve seen in decades. We haven’t all gotten as stupid as he is all of a sudden.Lock him the fuck up

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
8. Seems to me like she's pretty smart, savvy, sets her apart from other GOP
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:21 AM
Oct 2021

She has that sort of genetic republicanism that is for life unfortunately

70sEraVet

(3,495 posts)
14. In a couple of years, every Republican politician will be anxiously telling reporters
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:00 AM
Oct 2021

that they were secretly on her side all along, that they never did trust Trump.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. In a couple of years, there will be no Republican politicians.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:35 AM
Oct 2021

Or there will be ONLY Republican politicians.

lastlib

(23,224 posts)
18. On every other issue of importance, she is as right-wing as they come.....
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:22 AM
Oct 2021

Votes w/ tRump & right-wing over 90% of the time. No. We don't want her.

She's only better-looking than her dad--but just as mean and rotten at the core.

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
33. correct. this person's 'policy' positions
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 08:36 AM
Oct 2021

are quite far right (as others have pointed out). The idea that she would ever find a home within the Democratic ranks - is frankly laughable.
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mvd

(65,173 posts)
9. Huge K&R
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:25 AM
Oct 2021

I have always thought this to be the case. Glad it is being said! He can’t escape prison for this.

kentuck

(111,091 posts)
10. I think she was trying to send a message to her constituency in Wyoming...
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:29 AM
Oct 2021

...and her Republican colleagues in the House.

They don't like what she is telling them.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
11. She is gonna rub the truth about TFG in their faces and they are will have to take it.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:47 AM
Oct 2021

Lots of the MAGA people are too far gone but I expect when exposed to the truth about 1/6/21 and
TFG & Russia he will see a real drop in his support. But then again I am holding out to see the mother
fucker in jail for his multiple crimes.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
15. Right. She ought to be credited by smart Republicans for this 'tough love' approach.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:02 AM
Oct 2021

Cheney's is the only way her party is going to get control of their 6th grade cultosis symptoms, regain their moral compass, commit to truth and reality, and become the viable, credible participant in democratic governance they once were back in pre-Bush days. When 2022 brings in their retiree replacements, we'll see if they're more of the performative ilk or more like Cheney.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
31. The purge of the worst Trump cadre is inevitable.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 12:15 AM
Oct 2021

Liz knows what a vile lot they are, and sees 0 downside in throwing them away.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
12. Of course Trump was in on the planning.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:47 AM
Oct 2021

Someone that determined to stay in power would go through any lengths to achieve such a feat. Of course he KNEW EVERYTHING that was going on on his behalf.

Justice matters.

(6,928 posts)
17. But... but... but... Justice is slow...
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:18 AM
Oct 2021
The Bank was robbed live on TV but the robber is white (with orange make up) and still at large.
 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
19. every one of insurrection people acted on a promise that they would get a pardon !
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:35 AM
Oct 2021

how's that working out for ya's ?

LisaM

(27,808 posts)
20. He had a freaking tailgate party going.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:05 AM
Oct 2021

Of all the unseemly things about that day - and there were many - that GameDay-style tailgate party they had going on was near the top. I know people who tailgate. It takes lots of planning. Invitations go out. Lists of who can get in are created. They set up TVs in the tents. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️

Lonestarblue

(9,986 posts)
22. I suspect that Dick Cheney is far wealthier than TFG and still has some power with Republicans.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:30 AM
Oct 2021

The Cheney family versus the Trump family. I hope the Cheneys are spending some of their wealth to put Trump out of business.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
24. Well, it's a good thing DOJ is keeping its powder dry.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:33 AM
Oct 2021

With such slim evidence, it would be crazy to risk investigating or prosecuting this guy.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
26. Gee, when you put it THAT way....
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:51 AM
Oct 2021

You gotta wonder why the MEDIA doesn't put it that way.

Does anyone doubt that if this had been Barack Obama or Joe Biden whether the media would report it THAT way?

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
32. That's the thing, no other former POTUS has ever contested an election
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 05:43 AM
Oct 2021

They go on to build libraries and start foundations to help people - or work to ensure fair elections in developing countries and build houses to help poor families, that kind of thing...



Cha

(297,196 posts)
27. Of course trump's big bloated
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:35 PM
Oct 2021

mouth was the head Terrorist.. like his dumbass wife was going to ask them to stop.

Ashli Bobbit's family can thank trump for her death.. he's responsible for all of it.

Send him to Prison.

bucolic_frolic

(43,149 posts)
35. The insurrection was made to appear to be a popular uprising
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 08:57 AM
Oct 2021

but was orchestrated by a leader and a cadre, as insurrections always are. As violent as it was, and the chaos it created, even with the stand down orders, these could not finish the job. The shock troops were incompetent or insufficient. He thought politics and loyalty to him would carry the day. System and tradition and loyalty to the Constitution had other ideas.

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