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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,881 posts)
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 01:44 PM Oct 2021

McConnell Is About to Block a Voting-Rights Bill. It's All Part of Democrats' Plan

WASHINGTON — It’s not often the leader of the United States Senate holds a vote knowing it will fail. It’s even less often the Senate leader calls a doomed vote for one of the most important bills in his party’s legislative agenda.

Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) is about to do just that. The Senate will vote Wednesday on the Freedom to Vote Act, a once-in-a-generation bill to safeguard the right to vote, disclose dark money, and stop the partisan operatives who tried to steal the last election from stealing the next one. The vote is almost certainly going to fail. Democrats hold 50 seats, they need 60 votes to beat a Republican filibuster, and there’s no indication that even one GOP senator, let alone 10, plans to break ranks and support the bill.

But for the Democratic lawmakers and outside activists pushing the bill, failure on Wednesday’s vote isn’t just expected — it’s part of the plan. They say it’s one of the final steps in a years-long, carefully choreographed strategy, one more proof point that Republicans won’t support even the most popular voting-rights and clean-government reforms.

And if not a single Republican will vote for those reforms, then Democrats have no choice but to negotiate a change to the filibuster rules that will allow them to pass the Freedom to Vote Act and try to shore up America’s battered democratic system in time for the 2022 elections.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/mcconnell-block-voting-rights-bill-143224857.html

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McConnell Is About to Block a Voting-Rights Bill. It's All Part of Democrats' Plan (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 OP
little chance Manchin and Sinema will do a carve out exception to the filibuster for voter rights nt Celerity Oct 2021 #1
You nailed that one JohnSJ Oct 2021 #8
Kind of a sketchy plan. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2021 #2
He might budge to avoid major Kompromat. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #12
I don't know abou that, either. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2021 #24
Maybe a heaping helping of pork aimed at fossil fuels. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #25
I can't believe Schumer BonnieJW Oct 2021 #17
Prove once and for the repugs are totally useless so go on without them. rickyhall Oct 2021 #3
Prove it to whom?f And go on to dod what? markpkessinger Oct 2021 #19
Excellent and informative article at the link. Thanks for posting. Mister Ed Oct 2021 #4
I'd say it's an appropriate place to put it. BComplex Oct 2021 #23
I hope it's a really clean bill, without amendments nilram Oct 2021 #5
GOP on Voting Rights...PREVENT Democrats from voting, period. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2021 #6
If Manchin and Sinema gave a damn about voting rights, it would be a great plan Silent3 Oct 2021 #7
Manchinema don't give a damn about anything but their own damned selves. ShazzieB Oct 2021 #15
Does moniss Oct 2021 #9
Sinema will NEVER go along. kairos12 Oct 2021 #10
3D chess! KG Oct 2021 #11
There is ZERO CHANCE that Manchin and Sinema are going to support berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #13
Sorry, "part of the plan" feels a bit too much like "32-dimensional chess" NullTuples Oct 2021 #14
Maybe DownriverDem Oct 2021 #20
At this point & given the Dems reluctance to play hardball, I don't see much change in support? NullTuples Oct 2021 #22
In order to support democracy they must use democracy to break the Senate super-majority bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #16
I'm so sick of all these political games Raine Oct 2021 #18
Except they could've done all of this before redistricting was done now we have to fight to get uponit7771 Oct 2021 #21

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
2. Kind of a sketchy plan.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 01:51 PM
Oct 2021

If Manchin won't budge on the filibuster to avoid a default, I don't know that he can be relied upon to budge for voting rights.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. He might budge to avoid major Kompromat.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 03:24 PM
Oct 2021

Anybody that corrupt has a whole warehouse full of "skeletons" he'd prefer not to show off.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
24. I don't know abou that, either.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 10:45 AM
Oct 2021

I don't think Manchin has a future in the Senate regardless of what happens here. It's not likely he'll survive another election cycle. He's probably just going to serve out the rest of his turn before turning lobbyist, and I don't know that kompromat will interrupt those plans significantly.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. Maybe a heaping helping of pork aimed at fossil fuels.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 11:03 AM
Oct 2021

Pay them to convert to renewables or capture carbon. He'll take his cut, of course.

BonnieJW

(2,261 posts)
17. I can't believe Schumer
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:30 PM
Oct 2021

Allows Manchin to chair the Energy Committee when he has a clear conflict of interest being a part owner of a coal company

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
3. Prove once and for the repugs are totally useless so go on without them.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 01:51 PM
Oct 2021

Fuck 'em if they can't see they ARE the joke.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
19. Prove it to whom?f And go on to dod what?
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:41 PM
Oct 2021

The problem with your approach is that without reform of the filibuster, whicbh Manchin and Sinema have clearly said they will not support, even if all Democrats support a piece of legislation, it will require at least 10 Republican votes to pass anything (except for a limited scope and number of things that can be passed via budget reconciliation). Neither all the happy talk in the world, nor all the "fuck-em" attitude in the world, changes that calculus one iota.

Mister Ed

(5,928 posts)
4. Excellent and informative article at the link. Thanks for posting.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 01:52 PM
Oct 2021

I wonder, though: why on earth did Yahoo News put it in the "Entertainment" section?

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
23. I'd say it's an appropriate place to put it.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:31 AM
Oct 2021

This disintegration of democracy is just theater to the media. It's going to be nasty for the next 200+ years.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
6. GOP on Voting Rights...PREVENT Democrats from voting, period.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 02:22 PM
Oct 2021

If people turn out to vote, they lose.

We need to be making calls, registering people to vote, knock on doors, be talking up Voting Rights everywhere.

We can all be a Stacey Abrams in our own way.

Silent3

(15,190 posts)
7. If Manchin and Sinema gave a damn about voting rights, it would be a great plan
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 02:23 PM
Oct 2021

I see not a shred of evidence for that.

moniss

(4,204 posts)
9. Does
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 02:37 PM
Oct 2021

anybody seriously think that this won't automatically head to court if passed? They will ask for an injunction until it's finally decided by the SC which could be well after 2022 or even 2024. I know that is pessimistic but it's also realistic. Democrats and Progressives need to realize that the GOP/Conservatives/Koch Network/Mercer Network are out to destroy them completely and permanently and they began that strategy long ago. We are not in a debate. We are in a war for the democracy.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
13. There is ZERO CHANCE that Manchin and Sinema are going to support
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 03:28 PM
Oct 2021

Removing or even reforming the filibuster

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
14. Sorry, "part of the plan" feels a bit too much like "32-dimensional chess"
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 03:30 PM
Oct 2021

The only workable plan necessitates eradicating the filibuster and pushing these bills throught.

Anything less is just a pause in the GOP's relentless ratcheting tighter and tighter control.

DownriverDem

(6,227 posts)
20. Maybe
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:42 PM
Oct 2021

part of the plan means building more support for ending the filibuster. Hard to imagine more support would be needed, I know.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
16. In order to support democracy they must use democracy to break the Senate super-majority
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:01 PM
Oct 2021

Maybe not break the filibuster, but make an exception to it?

Or at least have that debate. Expose the GOP Senate for what it is.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
21. Except they could've done all of this before redistricting was done now we have to fight to get
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:55 PM
Oct 2021

... equitable districts in states like Texas that is blue but voter denied, text book 50 on access to vote for PoC.

That's not democracy, this "chess play" allows that lack of democracy to continue in that state

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