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Apparent human remains found after Brian Laundrie's possessions located in Florida nature reserve (Original Post) Lochloosa Oct 2021 OP
He is dead. Good. Botany Oct 2021 #1
I hope its him so this will stop also. Lochloosa Oct 2021 #2
I think... 2naSalit Oct 2021 #3
He killed his g/f and himself Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #4
If only he had started with himself Rorey Oct 2021 #5
👍 Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #25
NBC said this a few hours ago. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #6
Does anyone else find it odd bamagal62 Oct 2021 #7
Yes, me CanonRay Oct 2021 #8
No, of course not. They were helping him Thtwudbeme Oct 2021 #9
No. H2O Man Oct 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author bamagal62 Oct 2021 #14
Right. H2O Man Oct 2021 #16
Yup. Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #27
I hope s gator got him. 😈 nt Raine Oct 2021 #10
The FBI just confirmed it. They're calling in dental experts to help identify the body and said they JoanofArgh Oct 2021 #11
The FBI H2O Man Oct 2021 #15
I didn't say they did. They confirmed they found partial remains and a backpack and note book JoanofArgh Oct 2021 #17
The actual FBI statement: H2O Man Oct 2021 #18
You're right . My mistake. At the very end , he said something JoanofArgh Oct 2021 #20
He did say H2O Man Oct 2021 #23
You should, H20 Man! JoanofArgh Oct 2021 #31
It is an important case ..... H2O Man Oct 2021 #34
With teeth, they can do DNA too NutmegYankee Oct 2021 #43
Absolutely! H2O Man Oct 2021 #47
I hope the notebook has some kind of explanation RFCalifornia Oct 2021 #32
This is a set-up. I think his personal belongings were planted by parents and remains sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 #13
That's what my husband said. I told him it sounded like a Lifetime movie plot helpisontheway Oct 2021 #21
Odd Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #28
Life isn't a movie. maxsolomon Oct 2021 #38
This RobinA Oct 2021 #44
If it's him, his parents will be wishing they hadn't stonewalled the police in the beginning. tblue37 Oct 2021 #41
I didn't think gators were prone to leave leftovers lying about. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2021 #19
Gators drag their lunches underwater- they don't leave stuff on land Thtwudbeme Oct 2021 #22
The site the partial remains H2O Man Oct 2021 #24
They found an intact notebook that was underwater Thtwudbeme Oct 2021 #26
Or remains of someone he killed to throw the law off of him. LiberatedUSA Oct 2021 #30
No Way RobinA Oct 2021 #45
The FBI spokesperson H2O Man Oct 2021 #33
Reports said something about a dry bag, rubberized, waterproof bag being found too, that'd work Shanti Shanti Shanti Oct 2021 #48
Hawaii is the only state with no coyotes jmowreader Oct 2021 #35
We sure have coyotes in FL, bold too, saw one trotting down my street before dawn the other day Shanti Shanti Shanti Oct 2021 #49
👍 Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #29
If it's him and that's the end, what a fked up story Hav Oct 2021 #36
I think the most likely thing is it's him, it was a gator, and he fucked up localroger Oct 2021 #37
Gators don't typically hunt on adult humans; that said... Tommy Carcetti Oct 2021 #40
Depends on the circumstances localroger Oct 2021 #46
Hopefully this ends all of this hoopla budkin Oct 2021 #39
I believed he had committed suicide weeks ago. NutmegYankee Oct 2021 #42

Botany

(70,483 posts)
1. He is dead. Good.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:14 PM
Oct 2021

I feel awful for her family, his family, and their friends but I don't need to hear another word about
this case ever.

2naSalit

(86,508 posts)
3. I think...
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:16 PM
Oct 2021

That since he's probably dead, I hope that his death was caused by a gator attack.

That is all.

Johnny2X2X

(19,021 posts)
4. He killed his g/f and himself
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:19 PM
Oct 2021

What a waste of life. Her family will get little comfort knowing he got to go out on his own terms.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
6. NBC said this a few hours ago.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:26 PM
Oct 2021

No one else has confirmed it.

I’m hoping it’s over, but I’m skeptical he’s dead. I won’t cry if he is.

bamagal62

(3,246 posts)
7. Does anyone else find it odd
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:40 PM
Oct 2021

That his parents went looking for a him on some trail and found some of his belongings and a body?

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
9. No, of course not. They were helping him
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:43 PM
Oct 2021

That whole family is creepy. Wish Gabby had left his ass when the cops pulled them over.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
12. No.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:46 PM
Oct 2021

The father did show law enforcement Brian's favored areas about a week ago. But today, they were brought out to identify his belomgings, which law enforcement had located hours earlier.

Response to H2O Man (Reply #12)

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
16. Right.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:54 PM
Oct 2021

Do not put too much value on any articles put out within the hours immediately following events such as this.

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
11. The FBI just confirmed it. They're calling in dental experts to help identify the body and said they
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:46 PM
Oct 2021

might be there for days.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
15. The FBI
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:52 PM
Oct 2021

only confirmed that partial human remains and some of Brian's belongings were found. They did not identify what body parts were found. If a head/skull is among them, they will definitely use dental records. If not, they will use DNA.

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
17. I didn't say they did. They confirmed they found partial remains and a backpack and note book
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:54 PM
Oct 2021

believed to belong to Laundrie. At the very end the agent said they were calling in their dental experts.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
18. The actual FBI statement:
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:00 PM
Oct 2021

Good afternoon, josh Taylor with the North Port Police Department. Thank you for your continued diligence on this story and thanks for your patience. As you know, the North Port Police Department has worked collaboratively with the FBI throughout this investigation. So a special agent, Michael Mcpherson is going to make a prepared statement. There's not gonna be any questions today, but hopefully it answers some of them. Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Michael Mcpherson. I'm the special agent in charge of the FBI Tampa division. As you're aware, the FBI and the North Port Police Department and our State and local law enforcement partners have been searching the area of the Carlton reserve for brian laundry. A person of interest in the murder of Gabby Petito. Earlier today, investigators found what appears to be human remains although with personal items such as a backpack and notebook belonging to bryan laundry. These items were found in an area that up until recently have been underwater. Our evidence response team is on scene using all available forensic resources to process the area. It's likely the team will be on scene for several days. I know you have a lot of questions but we don't have all the answers yet. We are working diligently to get those answers for you. We are grateful for the dedication and professionalism of the North Port Police Department along with our partners from the state and local agencies complex investigations such as this cannot be accomplished by what agency alone, but there's just too many agencies to name them all here today. Portions of the Myakka Hatchery Creek Environment Park and Carlton Reserve remain closed to the public until further notice this is an active and ongoing investigation. So we ask the public to maintain distance from any law enforcement personnel, equipment, vehicles and other related activity for the safety of the public and to protect the integrity of our work. We have no additional comment related to today's activities. Our FBI Denver Office is the lead investigative agency and all future inquiries should be directed to them. We appreciate the tremendous support from the public and continue to ask for your assistance and bring in this investigation too close. Thank you with the backpack found here. The Justice for Gabby Justice, Justice Justice, Justice Justice.


Perhaps a media person said that about the dental record. But the FBI did not.

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
20. You're right . My mistake. At the very end , he said something
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:08 PM
Oct 2021

about the FBI Denver Office. I thought he said dental, lol.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
23. He did say
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:23 PM
Oct 2021

they will be using all forensic resources. If the head/skull is found, and is largely intact -- meaning teeth being there -- that could be verified by Brian's dentist. And I hope that is it. But besides that, the pathologist will determine manner of death, which is almost certainly homicide. It seems highly unlikely it will be ruled a natural death. And the type of homicide is most likely to be suicide, although there is another highly unlikely possibility.

What a tragic story. I've watched a bit of coverage on WFLA, and am thinking of contacting them to give answers to a few questions they have.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
34. It is an important case .....
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:59 PM
Oct 2021

though they all are. Some of the things that announcers I was watching say "do not make sense" actually do make perfect sense. But I recognize that my experience in employment dealing with domestic abuse, plus having many relatives in law enforcement -- including a cousin in Florida who is retired from the FBI and is a PI now -- might give me an advantage.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
47. Absolutely!
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 12:43 AM
Oct 2021

DNA testing & analysis is outstanding. And even a single tooth will provide enough for identification.

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
13. This is a set-up. I think his personal belongings were planted by parents and remains
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:50 PM
Oct 2021

are not him.

From link:

"The FBI and NPPD were informed last night of Brian’s parents’ intentions and they met Chris and Roberta there this morning. After a brief search off a trail that Brian frequented some articles belonging to Brian were found. As of now law enforcement is conducting a more thorough investigation of that area.”

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
21. That's what my husband said. I told him it sounded like a Lifetime movie plot
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:15 PM
Oct 2021

but y’all might be right. His parents are creepy.

maxsolomon

(33,281 posts)
38. Life isn't a movie.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 06:37 PM
Oct 2021

this is his body. he went to his favorite spot near his house, killed himself, and the gators ate his murdering ass.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,173 posts)
19. I didn't think gators were prone to leave leftovers lying about.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:02 PM
Oct 2021

That said, I still don't believe a word his parents say.

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
22. Gators drag their lunches underwater- they don't leave stuff on land
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:22 PM
Oct 2021

If this is Laundrie, and partially eaten--- then it's probably raccoons, coyotes (are those in FL? I don't know) and cockroaches.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
24. The site the partial remains
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:25 PM
Oct 2021

were found was under water for most of September. However, gators generally do clean their plate before leaving the table.

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
26. They found an intact notebook that was underwater
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:28 PM
Oct 2021

for weeks?

It's going to be weird if the remains are not his- just another of his victims.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
45. No Way
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:22 PM
Oct 2021

He’s just not that nefarious. He’s a dope. He kills her in Wyoming, freaks out and drives home. He realizes he’s in way over his head so he goes to his favorite spot and takes the only way out. He’s been dead the entire time he’s been missing.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
33. The FBI spokesperson
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:55 PM
Oct 2021

did say they found a notebook that belonged to Brian. He did not say it was intact, or make any other comment on its condition. That might well depend upon if the backpack was water-proof.

It is a weird case, indeed. However, one thing that seems clear is that Brian was not very intelligent when it came to planning a crime or a get-away. He seems to have been impulsive. Yet I'm not comfortable saying his strangling Gabby was in "the heat of passion." Domestic abuse appears to have been a pattern of behavior for him, and he definitely had time to come to his senses in the time he was choking her. From the police film of the incident out west, it seems very, very likely that he had choked her before this. Both he and Gabby said that he had grabbed her by the chin, and the most common response for those previously choked is to tuck their chin, to protect their neck.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
36. If it's him and that's the end, what a fked up story
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 06:11 PM
Oct 2021

Maybe he killed himself after taking another life.
And had his parents been responsible members of society and took better care instead of only trying to avoid consequences, their son might be in jail but still alive today.

localroger

(3,625 posts)
37. I think the most likely thing is it's him, it was a gator, and he fucked up
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 06:36 PM
Oct 2021

I suspect he was trying to cross the then shallowly submerged swamp to throw off pursuit, possibly at night, and the gator got him. If it was a medium sized gator in the 6 to 8 foot range it might not have been able to finish him off, but would have been able to drag him under and kill him and then dine at leisure. I don't see him finding a stranger and setting this up. He most likely killed Petito without planning it in a fit of rage. I also don't think someone like that would have thought of leaving his pack or notebook behind; the notebook was likely filled with dangerous secrets (and might still be if it was in a plastic bag) and the pack contained possessions he might need to continue his flight. I suspect we will know a lot more in a few days.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,164 posts)
40. Gators don't typically hunt on adult humans; that said...
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 06:44 PM
Oct 2021

…if someone inadvertently wanders into their territory they could still attack.

localroger

(3,625 posts)
46. Depends on the circumstances
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:33 PM
Oct 2021

We had a guy killed after hurricane Ida hit in Slidell by a gator, but it was a very large >12ft monster and it did completely consume him, they had to figure out what happened by finding and killing the gator and cutting it open to find what was left of him. He could also have simply tripped on a submerged object and drowned, or been attacked while flailing in a moment of weakness. We probably won't ever know the exact COD, but we probably will find out whether he was preyed upon and possibly by what.

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