Not happy seeing these latest polls

[quinnox]

Sorry I'm not the type to put my head in the sand and pretend this is all some sort of media conspiracy and everything is really hunky dory and Obama is winning in a landslide. These polls aren't good, way too close for comfort.

[Scootaloo]

1. Youre concern is noted and appreciated.

Do you want compensation for your endeavors in gold coin, or shall we just convert it to an equivilant number of billy goats?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

3. Please don't involve goats in this ostrich horseshit.

[L0oniX]

55. I'm trying to imagine what an ostrichorse looks like.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

60. Looks like a mean ride.

[L0oniX]

54. http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/ ...enjoy

[Sebass1271]

2. Which ones

Are u referring to? Today's polls look good with the exception of Gallup.

[quinnox]

4. the one I saw is showing it as a tie

like 47 - 47 or something

[Sebass1271]

12. Ummm no

Not true. Bring your source. In some polls Obama is up more than 5%.
Anyway don't look at national look at states.

[quinnox]

14. ummmm yes, unless this story is my imagination

"Obama and Romney tied at 47% among likely voters, new NBC/WSJ poll shows"

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-romney-tied-47-among-likely-voters-nbc-163043931--election.html

[ProSense]

17. Obama leads by 5 points among registered voters

More:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1592502

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1593598

[Sebass1271]

21. What about

This one? Obama up 5%

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1595104

[bluestate10]

37. That poll showed Romney up by 2 or 3 last week. Chill dude, the election is headed

in the right direction for us. If President Obama remains vigilant and beats Romney in the debate Monday, Romney will have difficulty recovering.

[uponit7771]

64. That's an LV poll without a published LV model...REALLY easy to discount it seeing RV Obama is up

[speedoo]

15. "or something"?

You take the time to post your concern when you are not even sure what you are concerned about?

And you expect sympathy?

Or something?

[quinnox]

20. whatever, sounds like my "or something"

really got to you, a phrase used very often in casual conversation.

[speedoo]

23. No, what got to me was your ill-informed concern.

As though you just started paying attention to what's going on.

[quinnox]

27. I think your mind reading skills are very poor

How do you know what I'm sure of or not sure of regarding any concerns? You don't.

[speedoo]

32. Your OP indicated, to me, that you just started looking at polls.

Many of us here have been paying very close attention. Have you?

[quinnox]

36. yep, just saw that tied poll today

So, is it a crime that I just saw this headline that is leading on yahoo news? Not sure where you are going with this.

[PoliticAverse]

51. We don't elect presidents by overall popular vote but by state by state electoral collage...

Look at projected electoral vote polls if you need to look at polls.

[NYC_SKP]

5. I'm buying 50,000 of these for my DU friends:

OSTRICH PILLOW

OSTRICH PILLOW

DESIGNED BY Kawamura-Ganjavian
OSTRICH PILLOW offers a micro environment in which to take a warm and comfortable power nap at ease. It is neither a pillow, nor cushion, bed or garment, but a bit of each all at the same time. It’s soothing cave-like interior shelters and isolates both your head and hands, perfect for a power nap. You can use the Ostrich Pillow at your desk, on a bench, on the train or while you wait at the air ...

Good through all the polls and the next debate, just DO NOT forget to vote!

[Bladian]

22. That is...amazing.

I actually want one now.

[Warren DeMontague]

42. Just the thing for the guy whose girlfriend

has a thing for Admiral Ackbar.

[LaydeeBug]

43. Those look awesome and now I want one. nt

[wtmusic]

58. I do sleep best when my head is immersed in a pool of sweat. nt

[SCliberal091294]

6. Nationally or State?

I know Gallup if screwed up for now. Rasmussen bounces between Romney and Obama. IBD is looking good. Statewide Iowa was PPP O +1. Chuck Todd said Ohio won't be as close as four other swing states.

[quinnox]

11. nationally

"Obama Romney tied according to latest NBS/WSJ poll" is the headline

[Sebass1271]

18. Look at states

We dont win nationally. Look at Ohio, NC, WI, MI, NV,CO, IA, FL..
Don't fall for it. They want to confuse you and demoralize you.

[Voice for Peace]

7. I found this post quite heartening

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=161205

Forget The Polls, Obama Is Still Winning: Predictwise

Economist and Microsoft researcher David Rothschild of PredictWise.com says the polls are misleading and that President Obama is not now, nor has he ever been, behind Mitt Romney in the race for the White House.

Rothschild’s forecasting model, which incorporates prediction markets like Intrade, gives Obama a better than 65% chance of re-election in November. (October 19, 2012)

(video and more at link)

[cally]

26. Thank you for this post

I had not seen that analysis and this economist mirrors Nate Silver's prediction about the election.

[Live and Learn]

38. +1 nt

[RomneyLies]

8. I only pay attention to the polls in swing states

Those look pretty damned good.

Taking an notice of national polls is as useful as trying to catch smoke with your hands.

[theinquisitivechad]

9. Concern concern

Concern concern concern concern. Concern concern? Concern concern! Concern - concern concern. Concern: concern, concern, concern.

Concern.

[defacto7]

29. Nothing wrong with that...

It's better than:

Apathy apathy apathy apathy. Apathy, apathy? Apathy, apathy! Apathy - apathy apathy. Apathy: apathy, apathy, apathy.

or

Complacent complacent complacent complacent. Complacent complacent? Complacent complacent! Complacent - complacent complacent. Complacent: complacent, complacent, complacent.

Redundant.

[theinquisitivechad]

63. I would argue that the post reads those ways

Too. Very boo-hoo. Not helpful in any way at this point in the election cycle. Except to comfort other sniveling boo-hoo'ers.

[quinnox]

34. so?

what's your point. Don't bother if its just more low level snark though.

[Drunken Irishman]

10. Huh?

[Jennicut]

13. No one is suggesting a landslide. It is essentially a tied popular vote per the national polls.

If we want to say the LV screens are way out of wack and Obama is closer in LVs then the polls suggest then it is an Obama lead of 1-3%.
It comes down to a few states.
I don't buy the media conspiracy crap. I do buy the LV model underestimating Obama enthusiasm. Early voting would be down if enthusiasm is sooooo bad. It is, in fact, up. It is up for Repubs but also up for Dems.

[SingleSeatBiggerMeat]

16. C'Mon

Considering the flameout he took two weeks ago, he is doing pretty well.

Look at it another way.... Can you imagine the pressure on RMoney just to put together a plausible map to 270?

I don't believe they have a clear path laid out...and (to use a football analogy) - they are still waiting for a hole to run through.

[cilla4progress]

19. I do feel like repubs controlled the messaging this weekend.

Whilst I heard strong defenses of Obama and State on Libya in some fora, mostly I heard (eg Lindsay Graham) recording sound bytes going strongly after our side.

Also, the polls tend to create their own spin.

[Shivering Jemmy]

24. Happiness is irrelevant

Do the math. We are on track for a hard fought win.


Why do so many liberals only want to tussle when they are the heavy favorite?

[defacto7]

35. Is that what we do?

Tussle? Maybe you're right. You have any examples? It would be interesting to see where you get that.

[Shivering Jemmy]

57. Wait a while

A post will appear bemoaning the fact that we were up by x amount nationally and now are not.

[scheming daemons]

25. yeah... that ibd/tipp that has us +6 must have you down

[erik satie]

28. This is not 1980 nor 2004

Obama won in 2008 in a near landslide, he has a much larger base than Jimmy Carter or George Bush had, the economy is improving and the fact still remains that for whatever mistake this administration has done in domestic or foreign policy, Barack Obama is an honest man with clear principles, goals and methods on how to achieve them, he has no dirty little secrets or scandals a la Lewinski affair or Watergate behind him. The Republicans can only in the end resort to mindless raging on and on how he is a Kenyan, Muslim, socialist etc. I truly believe that the majority of voters will see this, maybe only a slim majority but still a majority and I do think that Obama will go down in history as one of the great American presidents...the facts speak for themselves and they say that this administration is pulling the country out of what is perhaps the greatest financial crisis and global recession ever...America is doing better than most of Europe because of the policies supported by the Democrats and Obama. Of course you shouldn't ignore what the polls are saying, but keep the overall, global state of things in mind. Obama is a story of success not of failure.

[defacto7]

30. Good post!

and Welcome to DU!

[erik satie]

33. Thank you!

[Sebass1271]

40. This is great!

We have a lot to be thankful and proud of.

Welcome

[erik satie]

44. You indeed have

these are tough times but...call me an idealist if you will....I think we're gonna get through it all and win this battle...in the end people don't want to live in a dog eat dog world.

Thank you

[Quantess]

31. quinnox you fussbudget, I don't get you.

First you were so ready to censor posts, and were always advocating for heads to roll, but then something happened to make you suddenly anti-censorship. And now, this.

[quinnox]

41. I'm sorry I'm not predictable

[Quantess]

46. You're a bit like Chris Matthews that way.

you just never know.

[Warren DeMontague]

39. We knew it was going to be close.

Still, I'd rather be us than them, right now.

[pintobean]

45. Recced because this took guts

I'm nervous too. I'd bet most of us are, but many don't want to admit it.

[quinnox]

49. thank you n/t

[Quixote1818]

47. We win Ohio and it's over! And right now there is a 70% chance to win Ohio. nt

[L0oniX]

48. Check out - Romney vs. Obama: The Oddsmakers Weigh In

http://www.smartmoney.com/invest/strategies/romney-vs-obama-the-oddsmakers-weigh-in-1344372024237/

Do you think you know who'll win? The U.K. bookies now heavily favor Obama: He's quoted at 2/5, compared with 15/8 for Romney. Put another way, they currently give Obama a roughly 70% chance of winning, against 35% for Romney. (Those odds have moved sharply towards Obama in recent weeks, following Romney's missteps, although the polls in the U.S. don't reflect that.)

[Demonaut]

50. not to rain but that article is from Aug 2, any updates?

[L0oniX]

53. http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/ ...61% Obama to 38% MittAsshole ...enjoy!

[OldDem2012]

52. Let's hear it for doom and gloom! Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! nt.

[Demonaut]

59. yeah, because the doom and gloom helps because..........why...because!

[craigmatic]

56. I see them as motivation. It made me donate to Obama seeing this get close. I'm sure there are other

people who see it my way too.

[B Calm]

61. Likely voter polls don't change this

much overnight! Obama had a 5 point lead with likely voters and now overnight they are tied. Then you hear where Romney has stock in a company that tally votes. I fear this election is already stolen, and my god I hope I'm wrong!!

[treestar]

62. So what do you propose?

To do as a result of this?

[quinnox]

65. not sure, any suggestions?

I'm all ears.