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Nevilledog

(52,827 posts)
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 04:59 PM Oct 2021

What is gerrymandering and why does a democracy allow it to be used to protect white power?



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What is gerrymandering and why does a democracy allow it to be used to protect white power?
A legal history of congressional district map-making.
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Maps are being redrawn all over the country in response to last year’s census. Unfortunately, the process currently leaves a lot of room for partisan gerrymandering. It is the first time since the passage of the Voting Rights Act that district maps will be drawn without the preclearance requirement of the Voting Rights Act for many states.

A 2019 Supreme Court case also makes it impossible to bring gerrymander cases to federal courts on the basis of partisanship. Luckily some states have passed redistricting reforms since the last census. Others have divided legislatures where partisan abuse is less likely. But there are states that will attempt to draw maps in blatantly partisan ways, particularly to protect Republican political power.

The practice of manipulating voting districts for political power — ie, gerrymandering — wasn’t invented in the US but it’s hard to say we didn’t perfect it. In 18th-century Britain, districts called “rotten boroughs” were drawn with few voters to ensure certain representatives were elected to Parliament. Gerrymandered districts have existed since the inception of US congressional districts, but initially the districts were still drawn in relatively normal ways.

The term “gerrymander” was coined after an 1812 Massachusetts state senate district map was drawn and signed into law by then Governor Elbridge Gerry. The map drew a long thin district that sliced up Essex County, which usually voted for the Federalist Party, in order to help the Democratic-Republicans. As a result, a county that had elected five Federalist representatives elected three Democratic-Republicans and only two Federalists. Federalists won over 1,500 more votes statewide but elected only 11 representatives while Democratic-Republicans elected 29. Ultimately, the extreme district map caused a backlash and Federalists soon regained power and redrew the district map.

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What is gerrymandering and why does a democracy allow it to be used to protect white power? (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2021 OP
;-{)🖖‍ Goonch Oct 2021 #1
The district was said to have looked like a marybourg Oct 2021 #2
...but had nothing to do with protecting white power... brooklynite Oct 2021 #5
I was just pointing out where the "mander" part marybourg Oct 2021 #9
Because our overlords really don't want peons voting n/t leftstreet Oct 2021 #3
Why? Because the legacy of slavery is still attractive to more than enough Americans. BeckyDem Oct 2021 #4
Actually, while slavery was seen as "bad", the idea of White Supremacy was held both South and North Caliman73 Oct 2021 #6
White supremacy is the legacy of slavery. BeckyDem Oct 2021 #7
Chicken and egg... right? Caliman73 Oct 2021 #8
How does any of that change what you initially responded to? BeckyDem Oct 2021 #10
Both parties do it Zeitghost Oct 2021 #11
Whites make the rules...so gerrymandering. joetheman Oct 2021 #12
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
5. ...but had nothing to do with protecting white power...
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 06:08 PM
Oct 2021

...All governing Parties have applied gerrymanders at different times to maintain their political strength. In political machine cities, they were used to protect black (and other ethnic group) power in their local jurisdictions.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
6. Actually, while slavery was seen as "bad", the idea of White Supremacy was held both South and North
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 06:13 PM
Oct 2021

The Civil War was about slavery, and while there were certainly many abolitionists who truly believed in the inherent equality of "all God's creatures", most people, North and South still believed that Black people were not equal to White. Even though the North fought to end slavery and bring the South to heel, they were not really fighting to end White Supremacy.

Many of the worst race riots in American History were in supposed "Free States". Racism and White Supremacy is an AMERICAN thing, not a Southern thing. We all need to realize that before we can truly address this national stain.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
8. Chicken and egg... right?
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 07:06 PM
Oct 2021

Except that White Supremacy pre dates the chattel slavery of the Atlantic Slave trade. The whole concept of "Race" and "Whiteness" was created to justify the dehumanization of African people to take them into bondage. White Supremacy allowed the enslavement of African people.

Slavery existed before the concept of race, but it was typically associated with warfare between neighboring groups. There was supremacy too, but it was "Greek Supremacy" or Spartan supremacy, or Athenian, Roman, Mongol, Chinese, etc... supremacy. There was not a concept of racial superiority until "White people" wanted to take Africans out of Africa to make them slaves on the sugar and cotton plantations of the new world. The Portuguese were the first to push the concept and the Dutch were the first to make the trade lucrative, bringing the first slaves from Africa to the Americas. Columbus took "savage" Taino people from the new world to Europe, but the trade never really got going in that direction.

White Supremacy is the underlying evil from which slavery was justified. Native Americans were considered "Almost White" by none other than Thomas Jefferson. He thought that Natives just needed some culture to become fully White. That is, until the colonists/Americans wanted the land which the natives inhabited, then they became Savage Red Men, and were justified for extermination.

If you look back at historical cartoons, you will see Natives, Mexicans, Filipinos, and others drawn in a Black African or Native caricature, It was the not to subtle way of communicating the racial inferiority of those people which justified taking of land or subjugation. It is easier to enslave and subjugate people, or steal their land if they are inferior and sub human.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
10. How does any of that change what you initially responded to?
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 08:52 PM
Oct 2021

Which was, Why? Because the legacy of slavery is still attractive to more than enough Americans.


Are you suggesting the origins, whatever you believe them to be, do not remain today? Although white people are protesting like never before alongside black people, whites are still reluctant to push for policies that will extend equality...as in housing areas etc.

Zeitghost

(4,250 posts)
11. Both parties do it
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 10:02 PM
Oct 2021

Do a simple calculation of the percentage of total votes cast by party and compare to the percentage of seats won in the House. Republicans currently hold a +2 edge compared to what a proportionally representative D-R split would be. In the last Congress it was a single seat and both those small margins can largely be explained by single district states that have fewer voters in their district. California pushes seats to the Dems, Texas to the Republicans, etc. and it more or less washes out in the end on a national level.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
12. Whites make the rules...so gerrymandering.
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 12:44 AM
Oct 2021

If others play by the rules and win, the rules are changed to new rules. Rinse, repeat, rinse repeat. It's goes by other names too, like white power, fascism, privilege, elitism, anti-democracy. spoils to the victor, etc.

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