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John Eastman is panicking (Original Post) FelineOverlord Oct 2021 OP
The conspiracy has a blueprint ... and an author C_U_L8R Oct 2021 #1
Big brave attack dogs who stood behind trump turn into cowardly weasels Fullduplexxx Oct 2021 #2
Yeah, if he's waiting for... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #40
The old saying in the workplace- if it's not in writing it didn't happen underpants Oct 2021 #3
hey, all I did was engineer the death camps for hitler..... getagrip_already Oct 2021 #4
Eastman is Trump's Eichmann DBoon Oct 2021 #52
evil is as evil does.... getagrip_already Oct 2021 #54
So he's now claiming to be nothing more than a messenger? Nice try. Raven123 Oct 2021 #5
Coffee boy? 2naSalit Oct 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #32
Haha Captain Zero Oct 2021 #44
Lol Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #51
John Eastman is panicking FelineOverlord Oct 2021 #6
Oh, the Kampf of it all! dchill Oct 2021 #7
LOL n/t Alice Kramden Oct 2021 #13
So, how horrified was Eastman on Jan. 6? gratuitous Oct 2021 #8
Squirming. That's a start. lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #9
FYI smart people Casady1 Oct 2021 #10
So, when may we expect to see Eastman before the Jan 6 Committee? nt Buns_of_Fire Oct 2021 #11
John Eastman is panicking FelineOverlord Oct 2021 #12
I Don't Think It Takes A Rocket Scientist To Figure Out Who Requested Eastman Create This Plan...... global1 Oct 2021 #14
"Just write the memo, I'll handle the rest." Captain Zero Oct 2021 #45
National Review. Conservative rag. calimary Oct 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #34
May he, and his enablers, receive everything they deserve. niyad Oct 2021 #16
They all seem twitchy today. Cracklin Charlie Oct 2021 #17
The full-of-shitness of these Bloated Tick lickspittles is beyond the pale. Aviation Pro Oct 2021 #18
I suspect that AG Garland's sequestered team investigating 1/6 Aviation Pro Oct 2021 #19
The NR article makes for interesting reading. Tomconroy Oct 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #35
Trying to imagine Rick Wilson's take on the death of Eastman's reputation in academia... Hekate Oct 2021 #21
I guess i am the only one here who does not know what the Eastman memo said or what it was about? joetheman Oct 2021 #22
Happy to oblige! 😁 ShazzieB Oct 2021 #43
Thanks for the link, ShazzieB! It'll be good for everybody to have. calimary Oct 2021 #55
Or who paid Eastman for drafting the memo? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2021 #49
When Pres. Lincoln was assassinated Marthe48 Oct 2021 #24
Yep smb Oct 2021 #28
I remembered reading that the last time Marthe48 Oct 2021 #33
Seward was assaulted at his home by knife Captain Zero Oct 2021 #46
Thanks :) Marthe48 Oct 2021 #47
#1. Eastman should be disbarred. gab13by13 Oct 2021 #25
I Am Reminded Of The One-Liner... smb Oct 2021 #26
eastman is trying the amazing trick of unwriting something LOL nt Javaman Oct 2021 #27
One curious side matter for me: before memo became public, I hadn't heard of Eastman's name.. msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #29
He incited the crowd at the 1/6 rally. gab13by13 Oct 2021 #30
Right On my radar on the 6th was a shitload of other known bad actors msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #36
hmm. if I had time I'd wiki and see if you're on to something. msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #37
Jim Banks let him see the emails and phone logs maybe? kentuck Oct 2021 #38
"It wasn't me, someone hacked my brain" grantcart Oct 2021 #39
Trump tweeted: "The Vice President has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors." tanyev Oct 2021 #41
no backsies til the moron is in prison/dead. pansypoo53219 Oct 2021 #42
Federal conspiracy is actually simple IbogaProject Oct 2021 #48
Seeing Rudy sitting there is a real confidence builder. keithbvadu2 Oct 2021 #50
Eastman wrote the memo to spec and signed it. That's not circumstantial. Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #53

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
1. The conspiracy has a blueprint ... and an author
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 10:58 AM
Oct 2021

Yeah, Eastman should be panicked. He's the fall guy unless he starts talking.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
40. Yeah, if he's waiting for...
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 04:49 PM
Oct 2021

Donald Trump to come running to his aid he's in for a long, disappointing wait.

underpants

(182,740 posts)
3. The old saying in the workplace- if it's not in writing it didn't happen
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 11:03 AM
Oct 2021

Conversely, if it’s in writing it did happen.

getagrip_already

(14,697 posts)
4. hey, all I did was engineer the death camps for hitler.....
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 11:05 AM
Oct 2021

It was just an exercise - a thought game - to see how or if it could be done. I never imagined anyone would build one. I was given a project and it was only one project of many. Oh, and the issue of me being available during construction was just part of my job. I just answered questions.

Oh, and make the occasional call to try get it implemented. But hey, they were just words on paper.....

Response to 2naSalit (Reply #23)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. So, how horrified was Eastman on Jan. 6?
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 11:14 AM
Oct 2021

As the strategy his memo laid out was set in motion, and an angry, violent mob gathered that morning to storm the Capitol, how horrified was John Eastman? Was he running around, hair on fire, trying to stop this internal discussion from becoming reality? Or was he on the podium, addressing the mob and encouraging them to carry out the insurrection in accordance with his blueprint?

Now, months later, after his "preliminary" memo has failed and the folks who defended the Constitution and the country that day begin their reckoning, Eastman would like everyone to know that he never in a million years dreamed that things would come out the way they did.

Uh huh.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
10. FYI smart people
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 11:19 AM
Oct 2021

rarely forget anything and that is why they are smart. Most of school is predicated on a really good memory especially up through high school.

global1

(25,240 posts)
14. I Don't Think It Takes A Rocket Scientist To Figure Out Who Requested Eastman Create This Plan......
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 11:46 AM
Oct 2021

I think it's the same guy that called Georgia and asked them to find another 11,800 or so votes.

I believe that Eastman is now trying to cover for TFG by saying he doesn't remember who instructed him to write this document.

I got to think Tr**p - the guy that can't accept losing (who is actually a big loser) gave Eastman the task.

It's going to be interesting if Eastman is made the fall guy in this. How quick is Tr**p going to disavow even talking to Eastman about this?

Response to calimary (Reply #15)

Aviation Pro

(12,143 posts)
18. The full-of-shitness of these Bloated Tick lickspittles is beyond the pale.
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 12:13 PM
Oct 2021

You can't hide, motherfucker. Own your bullshit, ass clown.

Aviation Pro

(12,143 posts)
19. I suspect that AG Garland's sequestered team investigating 1/6
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 12:14 PM
Oct 2021

Is about to 'pickle' these treasonous motherfuckers.

Otherwise, why would they be panicking?

Response to Tomconroy (Reply #20)

Hekate

(90,633 posts)
21. Trying to imagine Rick Wilson's take on the death of Eastman's reputation in academia...
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 12:28 PM
Oct 2021

… and the world of conservative think tanks.

ETTD — oh, the humanity.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
22. I guess i am the only one here who does not know what the Eastman memo said or what it was about?
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 12:35 PM
Oct 2021

Can someone fill me in please? My eyesight is poor so I may have missed ir.

ShazzieB

(16,357 posts)
43. Happy to oblige! 😁
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 05:49 PM
Oct 2021
(CNN)John Eastman, a conservative lawyer working with then-President Donald Trump's legal team, outlined in a two-page memo a scheme to try to persuade then-Vice President Mike Pence to subvert the Constitution and throw out the 2020 election results on January 6.


Go to this link to read the full memo:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-memo/index.html

49. Or who paid Eastman for drafting the memo?
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 10:22 PM
Oct 2021

Lawyers are creatures of habit, and one habit is to account for "billable hours." Lawyers live for billable hours, to wit:

A lawyer approached the Pearly Gates of Heaven.

“I’m only 45 years old!" he angrily snapped at the gatekeeper. "Why is it already my time to depart? Send me back to Earth right now or I’ll sue you!”

“Based on the records of your billable hours, Mr. Lawyer, you’re 98 years old,” replied the gatekeeper.


Even if Eastman ultimately donated his time, his records would show what work was done, who the client was, what the fee was and how much of that fee was discounted or waived.

Relative to the 1/6 investigation, somewhere in Eastman's records is documentation of who he was working for when he drafted the infamous memo. Documents don't just appear out of thin air. There is a backstory, there is a written history, the are previous drafts, there is incontrovertible evidence that can be subpoenaed.

Marthe48

(16,932 posts)
24. When Pres. Lincoln was assassinated
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 12:40 PM
Oct 2021

the net was cast far and wide to find ALL conspirators involved in Pres. Lincoln's murder. Remember Dr. Mudd, who was sentenced to life in prison, because he set Booth's broken leg. (It turned out that he met Booth once before the assassination, so the government took no chances. Arrested him, tried him and sentenced him.


We need this kind of vigorous pursuit of anyone who may have been involved in any of the meetings and subsequent violence. Repuations ruined? Sorry, that happened when they signed on to be traitor henchmen. Being investigated is just icing on the turd.

smb

(3,471 posts)
28. Yep
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 01:01 PM
Oct 2021

A bit of historical trivia -- one of the conspirators got cold feet when the plan escalated from kidnapping to murder, and instead of going after his target (Vice President Johnson) he went to the nearest bar and got plastered. Didn't save him from his appointment with the hangman, though....

Marthe48

(16,932 posts)
33. I remembered reading that the last time
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 01:45 PM
Oct 2021

I saw a story about Lincoln's assassination. I think at least one of the Cabinet Secretaries was also a target, but I need to refresh my memory.

gab13by13

(21,295 posts)
25. #1. Eastman should be disbarred.
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 12:44 PM
Oct 2021

#2. He needs to be investigated and arrested and convicted for being a domestic terrorist.

msfiddlestix

(7,275 posts)
29. One curious side matter for me: before memo became public, I hadn't heard of Eastman's name..
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 01:18 PM
Oct 2021

Sort of the perfect "man behind the curtain" figure.

msfiddlestix

(7,275 posts)
31. Right On my radar on the 6th was a shitload of other known bad actors
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 01:34 PM
Oct 2021

TFG, Ghoulian, Bannon, Eric and Don Jr, Mike Flynn, Roger Stone et al, a slew of House and Senate "law makers", Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, 3 Percenters, etc, the list is endless of fairly well publicaly known names. But Eastman was never on my radar before now.


Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #31)

msfiddlestix

(7,275 posts)
37. hmm. if I had time I'd wiki and see if you're on to something.
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 02:35 PM
Oct 2021

could be, but totally spot on wrt "more than just a thought experiment".

All the other ass clowns we were already "acquainted" with salivating at the notion of "lock her up" lead by Mike Flynn, my thoughts on the planning had zeroed on Flynn and his military connections including his Brother and his son on the planning.

It never occurred to me that a Corporate Lizard cooked up the details.

Jesus.

tanyev

(42,543 posts)
41. Trump tweeted: "The Vice President has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors."
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 05:13 PM
Oct 2021

Somebody with a big boy vocabulary told Donny how to word that.

IbogaProject

(2,804 posts)
48. Federal conspiracy is actually simple
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 09:10 PM
Oct 2021

Federal conspiracy is actually simple if youre part f a group of two or more plan or even brainstorm anything about a federal crime, even if you chicken out later you are guilty of the whole thing.

keithbvadu2

(36,747 posts)
50. Seeing Rudy sitting there is a real confidence builder.
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 10:47 PM
Oct 2021

Seeing Rudy sitting there is a real confidence builder.

Ford_Prefect

(7,876 posts)
53. Eastman wrote the memo to spec and signed it. That's not circumstantial.
Sat Oct 23, 2021, 11:04 AM
Oct 2021

He had any number of sideline conversations with WH staff and others involved prior to this document.

If it walks like a Duck talks like a Duck and writes like one, you can be damn sure it's a Duck when you find his fingerprints on the document in question.

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