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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI hope this encourages more people in our country to think about the danger of guns.
When a gun can cause a death in such a "controlled" situation as a movie set, it should give us pause.
To me there is no such thing as "gun safety" in most of our lives. We allow our military and our police to carry guns under certain conditions and for certain reasons and we demand proper control and care of such lethal weaponry. That this happened on a movie set should make us even more wary of any gun that we might encounter.
I speak as someone whose family was shattered by a handgun meant for personal protection of the home and became a murder weapon.
Tetrachloride
(7,816 posts)and civil charges against the producers in general .
The type of gun and what was inside are contributing factors.
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marie999
(3,334 posts)When someone hands you a weapon you are responsible for that weapon. You do not shoot a weapon until you have checked both the weapon and the ammo. In the army, I was never given a rifle nor a magazine that was loaded. I would never fire a weapon before making sure the barrel was free of obstruction. In a firefight, which I was never in, that might not always be possible, on a movie set it should be mandatory.
CTyankee
(63,891 posts)The key difference in your analogy is that being in film-making and being in the army are totally disparate situations. In film making you would have an expectation of safety that you wouldn't have in the armed services. The actors, director, extras, costumers, etc are totally absorbed in making a film. There is an expectation of certain things involved in their project.
Now that expectation is clouded and uncertain, to say the least.
Hindsight is always 50/50.
former9thward
(31,941 posts)There had been two gun malfunctions earlier in the shooting. The camera crew had walked off due to safety concerns. So Baldwin, especially in his role as a producer, had knowledge of these problems. I wonder why he had left New Mexico so quickly. It will be difficult for local law enforcement to interview him now.
CTyankee
(63,891 posts)covered this story?
Where did you learn this information?
former9thward
(31,941 posts)The day before the deadly incident, a large number of people in the camera department resigned over reasons including an apparent lack of safety protocols, a member of the camera crew who quit the production told ABC News.
On a day prior to Thursday's fatal shooting, there were two accidental discharges within 10 minutes, according to the former crew member.
The issue of gun safety had been brought up by the camera crew and allegedly brushed off repeatedly by producers, said the person, who had already left the set before the fatal shooting occurred.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/crew-members-hospitalized-prop-gun-misfires-set-alec/story?id=80715740
The Magistrate
(95,243 posts)There are no accidents with firearms, only negligence.
Chuuku Davis
(565 posts)AB broke all four of the universal gun safety rules and had a negligent discharge.
robbob
(3,522 posts)Why?
LymphocyteLover
(5,636 posts)But it's ridiculous how we have to have fucking guns everywhere, in all these movies -- like ALL tough guys have to shoot a gun. Ridiculous.
babydollhead
(2,231 posts)Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Of the top 10 grossing movies in 2019 (the last "normal" year), only 5 had guns. Arguably, only 4 since Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker had blasters, not firearms.