I can't imagine the pain Alec Baldwin is experiencing

[luv2fly]

And then you have this Boebert hag:

https://www.rawstory.com/boebert-baldwin/
(she piles on the pain)

I hope she rots in hell.

[LizBeth]

1. Hag? How easily we progressives reflectively go to sexism.

[luv2fly]

3. I stand by the word

Hag... "a female demon."

Yeah, I stand by it. She fits the definition.

[LizBeth]

7. Of course you stand by it. That is neither here nor there.

[jrthin]

12. The word perfectly describes her.

[Wingus Dingus]

23. You can call a man a dick or a tool or make fun of his wiener, and nobody will care.

Use anything approaching a gender-oriented insult on women, though, and watch the alerts fly. It's the DU Double Standard. They should probably work on that. Either allow all gender-oriented insults, or none.

[Polly Hennessey]

5. Nothing sexist about it at all. Perfectly good word. A

hag is a hag. I know the three witches from McBeth would be sad that you thought hag was sexist.

[Hortensis]

9. :) And to reactionism. Calling her a pig would be swinism,

and no doubt also rightly be taken as a slur against women. Douchebag is unisex, even primarily used for males, but some would naturally experience it as a slur against women. And any use could be considered sexism, women don't own offence.

We could try to take the high ground and avoid all slurs.

But that does raise another problem. Calling her congressman insults all members of congress and congress itself, and could be considered sexist by some, but the same for "congresswoman." And even calling her Boebert insults other Boeberts everywhere.

Referring to her as a "woman" or "female" would be to insult all women. What to do?

Another way to seek the high ground might be to allow a little wiggle room behind the lines we all draw. Maybe consider, before launching an attempt to suppress or erase expression, whether suppression of innocently meant speech might be the worse offense.

Or ban talking about this particular woman altogether. Because, no matter how anyone puts it, she is just naturally offensive.

[H2O Man]

20. Hagfish are a primitive creature,

kind of like an eel. They have the barbels near their mouth, and rough tongues. Very few people have found them pleasant to eat, largely because they have a nasty aftertaste difficult to get out of your mouth. As far as I know, the only culture that values them are found in Korea, where some men consider them to be an aphrodisiac.

[Hortensis]

25. :) Barbels near their mouths and rough tongues...suggestive of. nt

[BlackSkimmer]

10. No kidding. nt

[USALiberal]

37. Oh FFS? Really? Nt

[Thtwudbeme]

41. using gender specific adjectives/ pronouns does not imply

sexism in all cases. Learn to recognize the difference.

[BannonsLiver]

45. Lol

Boebert IS A HAG.

[Arkansas Granny]

2. I read about that last night. It seems to me that Republicans are engaged in a race

to see just how offensive, ignorant, bigoted and hateful they can be and their constituents are loving every minute of it.

I am a non-believer, but even I know enough about the Bible to say that this is not what is taught in its pages.

[luv2fly]

6. Absolutely

"Christian family values" my ass.

[Irish_Dem]

4. The American psyche has a dark underbelly, and it is very ugly.

The orange F-wad tapped into it big time.

[Doc Sportello]

8. I was struck by those photos of him afterward

The man is in agony. The family of the woman is obviously hurting more, but I feel sorry for him. His life will never be the same.

[barbtries]

11. i don't like raw story.

Also I tend to feel sorrier for the victims and their loved ones than Alec Baldwin. I'm sure he feels like shit and did not intend to kill anyone, on the other hand he's still alive.

[jrthin]

14. Being alive with mental torture is living in agony.

[barbtries]

15. so is the sudden loss of a loved one

before her time.

[stopdiggin]

26. can we be sorry and empathetic

for both -- or is it a contest?

[barbtries]

32. no. not a contest.

a reminder if you will. I do not doubt that Baldwin is suffering immensely at this moment. Because he's famous, this story becomes mostly about him. Victims matter too and I hurt for them and their families.

[LakeArenal]

34. It becomes about him because he is famous.

Empathy for all parties is not mutually exclusive.

Perhaps the family prefer the privacy of Alec being the one getting all the press.

Funny how the people involved have no time to process events themselves before the public judges and juries decide.

[stopdiggin]

43. I don't think I needed a reminder

that there were others impacted here just because Baldwin's name is splashed around on media sites. I can safely entertain both ideas. But thanks.

[luv2fly]

40. +1 n/t

[luv2fly]

17. It's not a contest

Pain is pain, it's all relative and personal to the one experiencing it, no?

[dalton99a]

13. Stupid skanky scum.

[luv2fly]

18. Careful lest thou be labeled sexist

"Hag" is a bad word, skank certainly must be!

🤔

[dalton99a]

19. Was there a ruling by the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice?

[Grammy23]

16. Heaven forbid we all have a little bit of

compassion for everyone involved in this tragedy.

[malaise]

21. Hire Union workers for safety

That is all

[Cozmo]

28. BINGO! I fear there in lies the problem

[XanaDUer2]

29. I ofter wonder if it was non-union

who killed Brandon Lee in NC.

They moved movies to NC because it's cheaper.

Then Repunlicans killed films here.

[Kaleva]

22. It's the pain many who mishandle guns feel

There are no accidents when it comes to guns. Just negligence.

[mikeysnot]

24. First question!

Why was live ammo on a Hollywood set.

Second question.

Who had access to prop guns on that set.

Third question.

Was said person a magat supporter setting Baldwin up for mocking the nation first orange president on SNL….

[Codifer]

27. Sadly on point.

I have been wondering this also.

[uponit7771]

30. +1,

[LetMyPeopleVote]

31. Alec Baldwin will be in my prayers

He is experiencing a great deal of pain

[Initech]

33. Calling them "deplorable" is putting it lightly.

These people are fucking scumbags.

[Patton French]

38. The pain of her husband and children might compare.

Mr Baldwin is not the victim.

[luv2fly]

39. Is it a contest?

Your response seems to imply intentionality on Alex Baldwin's part. Accidents are painful too.

[Patton French]

42. No, obviously not intentional.

And, no, not a contest. Just sayin that Baldwin went home to his family.

[MustLoveBeagles]

44. K&R

She's scum. I feel for everyone impacted by this tragedy. Unfortunately there's no shortage of people even on the left that have already tried and found him guilty without knowing the full story. I've seen them here on this site.

[kentuck]

46. What about the pain of the loved ones of the person that was killed?

Talking about the pain of Alex Baldwin seems a mite out of touch?

[luv2fly]

47. Of course their pain matters

But that isn't what I was reflecting on. Geez.

[dumbcat]

48. I wonder how we would feel if

the circumstances were the same, but instead of Alec Baldwin the actor had been Clint Eastwood, Chuck Norris, or some other more right wing actor.

Would our sympathies and reactions be the same?

[sarisataka]

50. It would be slightly different

[Wingus Dingus]

51. Mine would be. It's a clear accident, unless something else comes to light saying otherwise.

Those are all still human beings who would feel shock and guilt and be distraught. I would feel bad for them. If this were a no-name actor involved probably most people would be sympathetic and accept it was an accident, even if some blame can be laid--but apparently Baldwin is a lightning rod and everyone with a grudge will crawl out of the woodwork.

[MustLoveBeagles]

52. I can only speak for myself here

Yes my sympathies and reactions would be the same. I don't agree with the political views of Clint or Chuck but as another poster said they're still human beings with feelings and I'm sure both would be devastated if something like this happened to them. I would honestly feel badly for them and wouldn't want people to rush to judgement before an investigation is concluded.

[luv2fly]

53. I believe so

And hope so even more.

[cadoman]

49. thoughts and prayers for Alec and Hilaria in this difficult time

Alec will persevere through this conspiracy and be back funnier than ever before we know it.