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Budi

(15,325 posts)
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 06:44 PM Oct 2021

For a solid year, Media has derided President Biden. NYTimes AGAIN today.




"as Dems near finish line on historic bills, press scrambles to frame victory as a failure";


One year ago, America was getting ready to vote in the most critical election in history.
America showed up for Joe Biden.
Yet the Media just never got over their dangerous addiction to ratings & profits.
NYTimes 👎


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For a solid year, Media has derided President Biden. NYTimes AGAIN today. (Original Post) Budi Oct 2021 OP
Bad on the Times. Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #1
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #2
I just cancelled my subscription mzmolly Oct 2021 #3
Hope you said why when you did so. calimary Oct 2021 #20
I sure did. mzmolly Oct 2021 #24
+1 dalton99a Oct 2021 #21
Remember a lot of criticism among Democrats on "compromise" too. Hoyt Oct 2021 #4
The real owners of America want the Orange Chosen One back. Better for business. Could care less. Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #5
Of course they are trying to sabotage him... BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #6
The "m$$$$$$" can ROT Cha Oct 2021 #7
It's Not Just The Times WHITT Oct 2021 #8
Jonathan Karl is no objective journalist. calimary Oct 2021 #22
Might note Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #9
Why aren't wealthy Dems buying up media outlets? SheltieLover Oct 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #13
... SheltieLover Oct 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #16
For what?, to go broke like my beloved Air America and/or get criticized by half Hoyt Oct 2021 #25
Four years ago: Trump manages to stick to a script, without going on too many word-salad tangents... JHB Oct 2021 #11
Makes me so angry mcar Oct 2021 #12
Yes the MSM is Trying to Destroy Biden! McKim Oct 2021 #14
Desperately trying to escape the label.... paleotn Oct 2021 #17
About 20 years ago a super right wing "friend" of mine used to say, when the NYT was bashed by.... George II Oct 2021 #18
The New York Times - "Democrats can do no right, and Republicans can do no wrong" dalton99a Oct 2021 #19
This isn't criticism (in the perjorative sense), it's analysis.... reACTIONary Oct 2021 #23

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,481 posts)
2. Who is surprised by this?
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 06:54 PM
Oct 2021

I cancelled my subscription to the NYT a long time ago. The NYT is very biased against Democrats and the NYT coverage of the Clinton tapes helped elect TFG. I am happy with my subscription with the Washington Post and have issues opening articles posted on the NYT due to the clear bias of this paper. It seems that I am not alone This is a long but good article on the NYT



See https://newrepublic.com/article/146828/lefts-war-new-york-times
The Times has flourished under Trump, witnessing a surge in digital subscriptions and regularly breaking major news about the administration and the Russia inquiry (not to mention #MeToo). Yet liberal criticism of the Times has also intensified, especially on social media. Not a day passes, it seems, without a prominent Twitter user complaining that the Times is biased against the left, too friendly to Trump and his supporters, or engaging in false equivalences between Democrats and Republicans.

Reporter Michael Schmidt was criticized for not asking more follow-up questions during an impromptu sit-down with Trump in December. His colleague Richard Fausset was accused of normalizing a neo-Nazi in his profile of an Ohio white nationalist the month before. Critics frequently charge that the Times is preoccupied with giving a voice to Trump supporters or even just saying something nice about the president, and the paper has openly struggled with how to cover racists. Broader criticisms go to questions of framing and context—whether news analysis of Trump is too gentle, like when Peter Baker described the president’s “reality-show accessibility,” or why the Times’ mobile phone push notifications seem strangely favorable to the White House. And then there’s the steady moan about the Times opinion section—not just stalwarts like Brooks and Ross Douthat, but Bret Stephens and Bari Weiss, both of whom joined the paper last year from The Wall Street Journal.....

Yet many on the left refuse to forget the Times’ transgressions over the years, such as when it helped President George W. Bush sell the Iraq War. Many complaints have to do with its coverage of just one Democratic family. As Esquire’s Charles Pierce wrote in mid-2016, while Hillary Clinton and Trump faced off for the presidency:

The Times obsession with finding something—anything!—it could hang on the Clintons goes all the way back to that moment three editors ago when the paper realized that its big Whitewater scoop was little more than a bag of Arkansas hot air. It has continued through the coverage of the Benghazi nothingburger, the e-mail nothingburger, and now, the Clinton Foundation nothingburger. When it comes to the once and (perhaps) future president of the United States, the Newspaper of Record is the In-and-Out of nothingburgers.

“It’s a very neurotic relationship American liberals have with The New York Times, and that The New York Times has with American liberals,” New York University journalism professor Jay Rosen told me. “I think it has a lot to do with the Clintons.” Rosen said the paper has always prided itself on challenging Democrats as well as Republicans, which sometimes rankles its core readership (including liberal journalists). He said, “I think there is more tension now between the core loyalists of The New York Times and the newsroom, and it’s because of the political situation.”


Of course, many liberal critics blame the current political situation in part on the Times. Willis, a longtime blogger who spent 13 years at Brock’s pro-Clinton media watchdog group Media Matters before joining Shareblue, concedes the paper “has some of the best reporters there are” and “does good work.” But he insists the Times “hates” liberals and harbored “institutional hatred” for Clinton during the campaign, a claim former Times executive editor Jill Abramson has vehemently denied. Willis went so far as to tweet, a few weeks after the 2016 election, that his followers shouldn’t subscribe to either the Times or the Post since “it only encourages the bastards.”

Explicit calls for progressives to pull their money from the Times are surprisingly common now. Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas, a liberal in good standing with the likes of Tanden, is a prominent example:






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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Remember a lot of criticism among Democrats on "compromise" too.
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:14 PM
Oct 2021

And nothing has been enacted yet.

Don’t think it’s Biden’s fault, but the Prez usually gets the criticism.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
6. Of course they are trying to sabotage him...
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:15 PM
Oct 2021

He’s talking about taxing the rich. Meanwhile he has my complete support - Go Joe!

Cha

(297,501 posts)
7. The "m$$$$$$" can ROT
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:19 PM
Oct 2021

in Hell.

I cut them OFF in November 2002.

The GD Masochists are living up to "Fake news" with President Biden.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
8. It's Not Just The Times
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:31 PM
Oct 2021

and it's not just Biden.

Saw ABC's Jonathan Karl interviewing McAuliffe in Virginia, noting that Biden, Obama, Stacey Abrahms, and others came to the state to campaign for him, asking 'Are you bringing in all those big guns because you think you're in trouble?'

McAuliffe said, not at all, we did the exact same thing in 2013, that's just how it's done.

OOF.



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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
25. For what?, to go broke like my beloved Air America and/or get criticized by half
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 10:24 PM
Oct 2021

of Democrats for not going far enough, and the other for going too far.

I do get the question, and wish there were a popular outlet that presented news and opinions “fairly.”

JHB

(37,161 posts)
11. Four years ago: Trump manages to stick to a script, without going on too many word-salad tangents...
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:10 PM
Oct 2021

...and it's "This is the day Donald Trump became president".

Today: With a small number of Democrats with ever-changing demands confound the lager party agenda while the Republicans engage in conformity to Party Line on par with the Soviet Politburo, the struggles to pass Biden's agenda are "Biden failures".

mcar

(42,366 posts)
12. Makes me so angry
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:11 PM
Oct 2021

They want TFG back so they'll get better ratings. Plus, they have to "both sides" everything.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
14. Yes the MSM is Trying to Destroy Biden!
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:25 PM
Oct 2021

Get on their comments section and talk back to them! I do it every day. Never forget how the NYT's Michael Gordon and Judith Miller sold the War on Iraq!

paleotn

(17,938 posts)
17. Desperately trying to escape the label....
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:30 PM
Oct 2021

"liberal media." Ironic thing is, unless they act as a wholly owned mouthpiece for the GQP, they'll be labeled "liberal media" by the Reich anyway. It's lose lose for NYT, CNN, etc. when it comes to the Reich, so just report the facts without the spin.

They were very much like this pre-Trump, so I guess we forgot what normal felt and sounded like. I certainly did.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. About 20 years ago a super right wing "friend" of mine used to say, when the NYT was bashed by....
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:44 PM
Oct 2021

....conservative media, "Grey Lady down", referring to their nickname back then. I argued with him vehemently about this.

It looks like I'll have to agree with him now.

PS - I haven't spoken to him since halfway through baby bush's term, wonder how he feels about them now?

dalton99a

(81,565 posts)
19. The New York Times - "Democrats can do no right, and Republicans can do no wrong"
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:45 PM
Oct 2021
Corollaries:

1. IF a Democrat does something right, MANUFACTURE a scandal to make them look bad

EXAMPLE: Whitewater, Benghazi, Hillary emails

2. IF a Republican does something wrong, WAIT until it's too late and then write something that nobody reads

EXAMPLE: Trump's Russia connections, tax returns




reACTIONary

(5,771 posts)
23. This isn't criticism (in the perjorative sense), it's analysis....
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 09:18 PM
Oct 2021

.... Maybe we should examine it on its merits, rather than expect nothing other than cheering and huzzahs.

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