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AURORA, Colo. (KDVR) A Colorado police sergeant is on leave after he launched a profanity-laden tirade at a 17-year-old girl during a traffic stop.
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Sgt. Ed Acuti was placed on leave after another officer reported his behavior, the department said in a statement, adding that the internal affairs investigation into the incident is near its final stages.
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The 17-year-old driver, a girl, stays on the scene and is detained. She becomes emotional, crying, screaming and asking police to call her mother. She also repeatedly expresses concern that her son has a gash on his head.
The sergeant at one point yells at the girl to shut the f up.
Yall kill people! Call my mom! she yells at one point. If I wanted to run, you think I would have pulled over?
She expresses that shes scared, and the officer calmly tells her to take a deep breath and relax. Theres nothing to be scared of, he tells her.
The girl continues to cry and scream, asking police to call her mom and yelling profanities at the officers. At one point, he point yells f you back at her.
What the officer says at one point:
You think Im out here playing fing games? Youre out of your fing mind, and Ill tell your mom the same fing thing. Im sure your mom would be real happy that your fing mans got a gun in his fing waistband, running around fing town. Right? Whose fing car is this? Tell me! Whose fing car is this? Cause its gonna go to the fing impound and I dont give a f how you get around. Are we fing clear? You better keep your fing mouth shut. Ill make your life a living fing hell from this fing (slams the car with his hand) day forward. You wanted it? You fing earned it. I dont care how the f old you are. Let that fing sink in.
sargeant's tirade begins about 7:00 on this video
https://www.wtrf.com/news/national-news/police-sergeant-on-leave-after-profanity-laden-tirade-against-17-year-old-girl/
Woodswalker
(549 posts)Have a pretty intense hatred for teens I've noticed. Must be all the complaints from those damn kids when they're getting shot up by mass shooters
pfitz59
(10,382 posts)I hate mis-leading headlines. She was transporting a passenger who was carrying a gun with an extended clip who bolted when the cops stopped the car. She is no "girl". The cop is no Social Worker. He just had a near-death experience, and is amped up on adrenaline. Cops are not supermen...
Dorian Gray
(13,497 posts)She's 17. She is indeed a girl. Not a legal adult yet. Deal with it.
DenaliDemocrat
(1,476 posts)But the cop said the f-word.
This is ridiculous.
Just drama for dramas sake. I really dont care if the police tell you to fucking shut up when your boyfriend is coming in heavy
Dorian Gray
(13,497 posts)she's a girl. Legally a child.
She was driving someone with a gun. Sure that's shitty. There could be a million mitigating circumstances. She didn't know he had a gun being the obvious first one that comes to mind.
Also, because she is underage, her judgment isn't considered fully formed yet, hence why she is STILL CONSIDERED A CHILD IN THE FACE OF THE LAW.
The cop was also put on leave, so.... looks like they agree he overreacted and tried to intimidate the CHILD.
DenaliDemocrat
(1,476 posts)With an extra high capacity magazine that was illegally concealed and transported. She was going 70 in a 40 mph zone and she has narcotics.
She is a menace to society and I dont have a shred of empathy for her. She is a delinquent and a criminal.
Dorian Gray
(13,497 posts)The good thing about being a child in the eyes of a law is that it doesn't matter one whit if you have sympathy for her. womp womp
ZonkerHarris
(24,237 posts)dealings with the offender?
Sounds like that's your stance here.
hard pass there.
Dorian Gray
(13,497 posts)From article above: "Sgt. Ed Acuti was placed on leave after another officer reported his behavior, the department said in a statement"
Looks like another cop thought he was out of line....
Also, it's being investigated by internal affairs.
DenaliDemocrat
(1,476 posts)Mean cop yelled at her for having a weapon of war, drugs, and speeding. This is the stupid shit that gets us destroyed in the media.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Why are you so riled up??
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obamanut2012
(26,087 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,374 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,374 posts)Our earlier research focused on adult attitudes and found that adults think black girls as young as 5 need less protection and nurturing than their white peers, said report co-author Rebecca Epstein, who leads the Initiative on Gender, Justice & Opportunity at Georgetown Laws Center on Poverty and Inequality. Our new research elevates the voices of black women and girls themselves, who told us that they are routinely affected by this form of discrimination.
The Centers original 2017 study, Girlhood Interrupted: The Erasure of Black Girls Childhood, applied statistical analysis to a national study of adults on their attitudes toward black girls. It found that adults believe black girls ages 5-19 need less nurturing, protection, support and comfort than white girls of the same age, and that black girls are more independent, know more about adult topics, and know more about sex than white girls.
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Findings include:
* Black girls routinely experience adultification bias.
* Adultification is linked to harsher treatment and higher standards for black girls in school.
* Negative stereotypes of black women as angry, aggressive and hypersexualized are projected onto black girls.
* Adults attempt to change black girls behavior to be more passive.
* Adultification bias can lead educators and other authorities to treat black girls in developmentally inappropriate ways.
* Factors that contribute to adultification bias include racism, sexism, and poverty.
* Adults have less empathy for black girls than their white peers.
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,374 posts)Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)joetheman
(1,450 posts)My granddaughter could be next no matter what she is or is not doing.
Best_man23
(4,900 posts)This is truth, and for the "internal affairs investigation", let me summarize what they will report.
"The officer's actions were justified in this case."
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)Swearing doesn't mean shit in the real world and isn't indicative of a damn thing. If her passenger here hadn't decided to fuckin' bolt with a gun, and if there wasn't a deadly weapon with at least one illegal modification, it wouldn't be an issue. The girl hamming it up for the cameras also doesn't mean a damn thing; She's scared. EVERYONE is scared when people of authority show up, be it the President or the local dog-catcher. That doesn't make her special or unique, and she's die-hard playing for the cameras for sympathy.
Cops tried to be as kind and as nice as possible, speaking to this woman and trying to talk her down, trying to reassure her, but she was deadset on being a completely irrational POS. "You're old enough to be out here driving without a license, you're old enough to have a son, act it"; Pretty accurate summation. The girl was way out of line and just trying to ham it up like she was going for an Oscar.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Looking at the full story of the couple running to the hospital for their sun and the cops reaction wasn't to help is not acceptable.
Of course black men with guns are afraid of cops
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)I don't give a single damn about cops or protecting them; They're trigger happy and generally shitheads, but they -do- face the very real threat of being killed by the people they interact with more than most. I'm willing to grant them that leeway, especially when someone's rocking up with an illegal extended-mag (presumably) filled with highly lethal ammo.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... 2 years but the FOP is fighting mandates.
Why should people who've been terrorized by shitty PDs believe these guys really care about what endangers them after their fight against COVID mandates?
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)I don't know what "FOP" is and honestly I don't care. I'm a gun owner with -incredibly- lenient views towards firearms, but shit like extended mags are needless and fucked up except for those degenerate shit-for-souls who aim to take a human life. There's only one reason for extended mags, and that's to snuff the life out of anyone whom mildly inconveniences them.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,374 posts)You see an "irrational" "POS" "woman" "hamming it up," I see a distraught teen trying to juggle adult responsibilities with a kid brain. Always interesting to learn how people see different things in the same moment.
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)If the "Distraught teen" is trying to "Juggle adult responsibilities with a kid brain", maybe she shouldn't have a kid with some cowardly schmuck with a gun who ditches her at the first opportunity. Clearly her parents failed her, and she was in very little trouble to begin with until she started mouthing off at the poor bastard just trying to do his job.
I'd say the exact same about a cashier who got lippy with someone at the local gas station, "Cop" status be damned; Don't be a piece of shit and you won't get treated like one. Be civil, be kind(ish), and treat the person you're interacting with with something approaching what could be considered dignity. Maybe I'm out of touch, but when I was raised, I was raised to not be a stain on society. Apparently that's asking too much of this "Poor, oppressed baby girl"s parents.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,374 posts)Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)This is like those Youtube videos of people driving like idiots and getting themselves absolutely blasted because they weren't paying attention or were on their phones; They deserve it. I hope they learn from it. They probably won't, because responsibility is an utterly foreign concept to a good chunk of Amurka.
To put in a relevant quote from City-side Americana; "Talk shit, get hit". This girl talked shit, then got hit. It's a tough lesson, but that's life. I sincerely hope she learns, grows, and becomes better from it.
The Magistrate
(95,248 posts)Another police officer considered the sergeant's behavior abusive enough to report it. Do let that sink in. Police very seldom do anything but back up another officer engaged in abusive behavior. This strongly suggests this person was seriously out of line. It could also be regarded as some progress being made in curbing police misbehavior, as the omerta generally maintained is a key reason why abuse by police is so persistent.
There is only the word of police there was a gun at all. This is true even if one is produced. There is no reason whatever to believe police without confirmation from witnesses independent of police. None.
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)I won't say the cop didn't talk shit, and he shouldn't have, but I wouldn't call him out of line either. The perp was in possession of illegal narcotics, and was transporting a person who had illegal deadly weaponry. You can cry "But she's a kid!" all you want, that doesn't mean that what she was doing didn't warrant an arrest. It doesn't take much to realize "Hey, maybe this is a bad idea" when you're committing multiple felonies, even to a 17 year old.
A 17 year old knows enough (If they actually have a family to teach them) not to be fucking stupid. This one certainly failed that particular test.
The Magistrate
(95,248 posts)It's by a policeman's feet.
I would need a person who was not a police officer to say he or she saw the gun in the possession of the passenger to consider it as a fact the gun was his, and not simply a drop piece.
You are defending indefensible behavior. When you are given the state's authority to arrest and at need harm or kill, you do not get to lose your temper, no matter what provocation you may face, and if you do, you are not fit for the authority granted and need to find other work. Immediately.
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)Though you deserve an explanation, I'm not going to give you one, I'm too tired for doing that in depth. But suffice to say you're right. I'm going to step away from this, let cooler heads prevail, and cede ground.
I hope that you'll forgive me; Having worked at customer service for a few decades, I have exceptionally low tolerance for asinine behavior like this young woman; That has prejudiced me, and I hope to return in a day or two to better assess this situation with a cool head.
I rarely agree with you, but this is one of those days. Thank you for continuing to be a beacon of rationality.
The Magistrate
(95,248 posts)People can be no fun at all....
SYFROYH
(34,177 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 25, 2021, 04:46 PM - Edit history (1)
They are supposed to keep their cool under every circumstance, really.
If her screams and yelling bothered her (which is completely understandable), he should have told the other officer to put her in the back of a cruiser to chill.
Bucky
(54,035 posts)Police should be trained for this, and psychologically prepared for this sort of thing, but you'll never prepare someone 100%.
This 17 year old was in over her head. The cop had the duty to calm her down and seems to have done his best, but clearly lacked the skills or presence of mind. Not having walked a mile in his moccasins, I can't say I'd do any better. But the whole situation is fucked up. The officer needs down time after something like this. The teenager needs to be in a less stressful environment. The little child needs a nurturing home atmosphere. The dude with the gun needs a reformation and some big fucking consequences for being armed like that in a car with minors.
But everyone involved needs a crack at some restorative justice.
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Croney
(4,661 posts)because someone told her that her 9-month-old son was there with a gash on his head. She had just picked up her baby's father at his dad's house and didn't know he had a gun.
That was her story, and even if she did know he had a gun, it's understandable that she was overwrought. The cop's verbal assault was cruel and unnecessary. I hope this somehow separates her from the boyfriend but they share a child so it probably won't. She needs compassionate intervention.
Hearing her plead "call my mom, call my mom" was heart-breaking.
SYFROYH
(34,177 posts)Of course, I'm already teaching my son to be calm with police and not to provoke them in any way when interacting with them.
They really needed to stuff her in a backseat of a cruiser and shut the door.
Good on the fellow LEO for reporting the incident.
Aristus
(66,434 posts)ecstatic
(32,720 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)And then it's back to the force.
Crunchy Frog
(26,592 posts)as acceptable professional behavior for ANYBODY having interactions with the public.
At some point it seems to have become generally accepted as SOP for law enforcement. Why is that?
Is there a minimum level of professionalism that should be expected from law enforcement workers, or has this concept simply become quaint?