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JohnSJ

(92,303 posts)
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:13 AM Oct 2021

So I turned on CNN and MSNBC, at 6:00 AM EST, and the were headlining with the Baldwin "rust"

shooting. Turned it off and rechecked an hour later. They were still talking about the shooting

Are they going to talk about the allegations of elected congress people being directly involved in the January 6th overthrow of our government?

While the shooting is tragic and should be mentioned, in the balance of issues that will have an impact on the American people, it doesn’t rate that high

Maybe they will bring back the issues with Britney Spears while they are at it

Is that really headline news?

While I am sure they will discuss members of Congress involvement in the insurrection, I would think that should have been the headline story




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So I turned on CNN and MSNBC, at 6:00 AM EST, and the were headlining with the Baldwin "rust" (Original Post) JohnSJ Oct 2021 OP
Joe S can't even bother to pronounce "ALEC" correctly--he keeps saying "Alex" though I know hlthe2b Oct 2021 #1
I see now they are talking about the insurrection, infrastructure bill, etc. but that should JohnSJ Oct 2021 #2
Joe's producer is named "Alex"... targetpractice Oct 2021 #6
NO! He did it repeatedly and it was clearly referrencing Alec Baldwin. hlthe2b Oct 2021 #29
Thanks! Stand corrected. n/t targetpractice Oct 2021 #31
I didn't mean to be strident, but this is classic Scab. He also "innocently" referenced hlthe2b Oct 2021 #32
CNN finally managed to segue into the spending bill. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2021 #3
Good. I see that, thanks. The President must have bought him breakfast yesterday JohnSJ Oct 2021 #4
It isn't just Manchin. gab13by13 Oct 2021 #8
Justice Alito probably has many reasons for mouthing that OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #12
The problem with Manchin is that he's basically said the bill will cause inflation. Calista241 Oct 2021 #35
Britney Spears 100% deserved all that media attention obamanut2012 Oct 2021 #5
THIS should be obvious to everyone. oldsoftie Oct 2021 #9
+1 demmiblue Oct 2021 #13
Spears got more coverage than GQP voter denial and nullification, only 64% of democrats ... uponit7771 Oct 2021 #15
Right wing billionaires own the MSM, gab13by13 Oct 2021 #7
"If it bleeds, it leads the news". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2021 #10
there in no mainstream news media in the US, only entertainment, news isn't profitable, yaesu Oct 2021 #11
It's more than that. gab13by13 Oct 2021 #16
Back in the days of Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley, Reasoner, argyl Oct 2021 #20
Yeah, republicans killed that era..... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #22
Yes this is all they are talking about. They are all going to stay on this like OJ and Peterson Oppaloopa Oct 2021 #14
+1, its getting way more coverage than it deserves while we have people in the government that uponit7771 Oct 2021 #18
Yes, it is tragic... it...ITS NOT THAT NEWSWORTHY...It is a second tier story ashredux Oct 2021 #17
That would explain why there was only one post about it here... brooklynite Oct 2021 #23
I'm with you demosurvivor Oct 2021 #19
One thing that really irks me about MSM KS Toronado Oct 2021 #21
For those who didn't bother to check before joining the pile-on... brooklynite Oct 2021 #24
+1 n/t ariadne0614 Oct 2021 #26
+1000!! USALiberal Oct 2021 #33
Good Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #25
Confirmation Necessary Desert_Leslie Oct 2021 #27
Don't you worry. By election day 2022 there will be plenty of missing Karens. jaxexpat Oct 2021 #28
Be fair wryter2000 Oct 2021 #30
MSM is Mostly about the Money, The Hype, and the Attitude. Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #34
Why aren't Rebl2 Oct 2021 #36
Let's see how long those channels cover the next mass school shooting. Paladin Oct 2021 #37
MSM The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2021 #38
Now that the Petito case is "solved," on to the next thing. AngryOldDem Oct 2021 #39
CNN has become the National Enquirer of cable "news". It started with that Petito case... George II Oct 2021 #40
An A-list actor shot 2 people and killed one of them. This story isn't going away. Dial H For Hero Oct 2021 #41

hlthe2b

(102,320 posts)
1. Joe S can't even bother to pronounce "ALEC" correctly--he keeps saying "Alex" though I know
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:15 AM
Oct 2021

he knows him personally from Alec's time working at MSNBC. And there is nothing that Mika loves better than to propel her own unearned self-sanctimony at others--especially those Joe finds offensive.

Uggh. Just turn it off as I did.

JohnSJ

(92,303 posts)
2. I see now they are talking about the insurrection, infrastructure bill, etc. but that should
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:19 AM
Oct 2021

have been the top of the hour headline I would have thought

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
6. Joe's producer is named "Alex"...
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:42 AM
Oct 2021

... I thought he was mispronouncing Alec's name this AM, too... But, then realized he was briefly talking about his producer, Alex, trying to get statements from the Rust production company.

You may be correct, though... But, I only noticed it for a bit this AM.

hlthe2b

(102,320 posts)
32. I didn't mean to be strident, but this is classic Scab. He also "innocently" referenced
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:12 AM
Oct 2021

"someone from MANHATTAN" in his question to a gun expert this morning about how one should assume they know nothing about guns and thus teach them very differently. Hmmm, Manhattan?

Buns_of_Fire

(17,187 posts)
3. CNN finally managed to segue into the spending bill.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:20 AM
Oct 2021

Manchin is now on board with a $1.75T bill after talking with the President. There was no visible bruising. (I made that last part up.)

JohnSJ

(92,303 posts)
4. Good. I see that, thanks. The President must have bought him breakfast yesterday
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:21 AM
Oct 2021

Maybe if he buys him lunch today, and dinner tomorrow, he can make it even higher


gab13by13

(21,377 posts)
8. It isn't just Manchin.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:46 AM
Oct 2021

I read today that Senator Menendez received 1 million dollars from Big Pharma and is against lower drug prices in the bill.

Justice Alito was so wrong when he mouthed "Not True" at president Obama's SOTU.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,138 posts)
12. Justice Alito probably has many reasons for mouthing that
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:00 AM
Oct 2021

All of them self serving and none of them worth an actual frak.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
35. The problem with Manchin is that he's basically said the bill will cause inflation.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:44 AM
Oct 2021

Therefore, if we actually do have inflation, we're going to take the fall for it. The GOP and the media will be able to pull out clips of Manchin equating the spending with inflation, and then we're dead meat.

We better hope inflation goes away.

obamanut2012

(26,087 posts)
5. Britney Spears 100% deserved all that media attention
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:33 AM
Oct 2021

It brought much needed scrutiny to a deplorable legal weapon used against people, especially women.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
15. Spears got more coverage than GQP voter denial and nullification, only 64% of democrats ...
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:13 AM
Oct 2021

... think voter suppression is a problem.

We don't have a democracy if even the left in America think the country should error on the side of making it REALLY easy for all eligible to vote.

gab13by13

(21,377 posts)
7. Right wing billionaires own the MSM,
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:43 AM
Oct 2021

they control the narrative. If every cable news station were talking about the coup plotters that might put pressure on Garland to act and we can't have that.

I'm still waiting to find out who authorized the Capitol tours and who disabled the panic buttons on the desks. Gone into the dust bin of history.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
11. there in no mainstream news media in the US, only entertainment, news isn't profitable,
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:59 AM
Oct 2021

entertainment is, gunporn will be the topic until the next sensation. I go to overseas sources for my news, BBC, DW and yes, even Radio Havana Cuba has better news.

gab13by13

(21,377 posts)
16. It's more than that.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:14 AM
Oct 2021

Of course they want to make money, but they also make money by controlling the narrative.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
20. Back in the days of Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley, Reasoner,
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:24 AM
Oct 2021

and many others the only source of televised news was CBS, NBC, and ABC.
And the news wasn't expected to turn a buck. It usually lost money but it was considered a public service. And it was high quality, no nonsense reporting of the important issues of the day.

I doubt we'll ever see that kind of non partisan, straightforward news casting again. It's all about profit, and worse yet, propaganda.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
22. Yeah, republicans killed that era.....
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:44 AM
Oct 2021

when the Ronnie Rayguns administration deep sixed the "Fairness Doctrine". That paved the way for Rush Limbaugh and the takeover of AM radio.

I mean....what's all this nonsense about "fairness" anyway? Fairness is a Democratic concept.

Oppaloopa

(867 posts)
14. Yes this is all they are talking about. They are all going to stay on this like OJ and Peterson
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:06 AM
Oct 2021

Now they just changed to talking to woodward regarding the insurrection

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
18. +1, its getting way more coverage than it deserves while we have people in the government that
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:15 AM
Oct 2021

... supported overturning and election.

ashredux

(2,606 posts)
17. Yes, it is tragic... it...ITS NOT THAT NEWSWORTHY...It is a second tier story
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:14 AM
Oct 2021

We have just a Tabloid Mentality…lowest common denominator wins the headline….sad

 

demosurvivor

(42 posts)
19. I'm with you
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:18 AM
Oct 2021

2.5 hours later and they're still talking about RUST. Granted, it needs some attention, BUT, our democracy is being put on the line each and every day. And I don't see any progress in us making an attempt to keep it. WTF

In my book, that should take precedence.

Making sure Trump can never be elected again should be number 2, which brings it back around to Jan 6.

WTF 2x

KS Toronado

(17,284 posts)
21. One thing that really irks me about MSM
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:35 AM
Oct 2021

when reporting on what's holding up new legislation that would benefit the public, they always point fingers
at Manchin & Sinema as the guilty ones, never the reQublicOns. I think the repugs are the most guilty.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
24. For those who didn't bother to check before joining the pile-on...
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:55 AM
Oct 2021

...the bulk of the hour on MSNBC was about planning for the Jan 6 riot and conflicts over COVID vaccinations.

Perhaps offering up a story people are INTERESTED in kept them around for the other important stories.

Johnny2X2X

(19,082 posts)
25. Good
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:58 AM
Oct 2021

Let the spending bill fly under the radar until the deal is done. We don't need the media riling up Sinema and Manchin for any last second changing of their minds.

Desert_Leslie

(131 posts)
27. Confirmation Necessary
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:01 AM
Oct 2021

That sizzling Rolling Stone story must be confirmed by a second source before it goes on the air. I'm sure all the political journos in D.C. are scrambling to confirm the story. Until it's confirmed, it's the "scoop" of Rolling Stone.

I did notice that Raw Story carried an article detailing the RS story. (They are more on the journalistic fringe and don't adhere to the normal journalistic standards that the big media outlets follow.)

jaxexpat

(6,838 posts)
28. Don't you worry. By election day 2022 there will be plenty of missing Karens.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:03 AM
Oct 2021

Wouldn't want the water cooler chat to trend toward real issues, now, would we?

Ford_Prefect

(7,914 posts)
34. MSM is Mostly about the Money, The Hype, and the Attitude.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:42 AM
Oct 2021

Content and Context are long gone from News. They enjoyed TLG as a target and a subject because they could pump out something every 15 minutes and it was juicy click bait every time. They no longer know how to construct an in-depth program nor wish to. The excuse I hear most often is that it costs more to do that and the public hasn't got the attention span to watch it. The same excuse they have pedaled since Reagan only now they blame it on people who prefer to read headlines on their phones rather than the content below the headline.

Imagine...

Rebl2

(13,535 posts)
36. Why aren't
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:57 AM
Oct 2021

any of the cable and MSM talking about the article about the planning meeting for the attempted coup being reported by Rolling Stone and the fact that several republican house members were involved. You know where I did see it. The local news channel I watch!!!

Paladin

(28,267 posts)
37. Let's see how long those channels cover the next mass school shooting.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:58 AM
Oct 2021

What's that you say? Mass school shootings happen so often in this country that---unlike shootings on movie sets involving celebrities---they're not newsworthy anymore?

Well, fancy that...

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
39. Now that the Petito case is "solved," on to the next thing.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:14 AM
Oct 2021

Morning Joe was actually talking about this in depth?

George II

(67,782 posts)
40. CNN has become the National Enquirer of cable "news". It started with that Petito case...
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:15 AM
Oct 2021

They spent more time on that in the last month than the Presidential Election.

I don't get it. A terribly tragic case, but it was a murder (and eventual suicide) of a young woman no one had ever heard about before.

No exaggeration, they've spent 5-10 minutes every hour for weeks now. There are about 60 homicides PER DAY in the US, yet they've spent weeks talking about just this one.

PS - I just put CNN for the first time this morning, after the commercial they're going to report on "latest updates" of the Alec Baldwin accidental shooting.

No doubt it's have the banner "BREAKING NEWS!"

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
41. An A-list actor shot 2 people and killed one of them. This story isn't going away.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:44 AM
Oct 2021

How much coverage would there been of O. J. Simpson if he'd been an obscure athlete no one had heard of?

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