FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

[orangecrush]

WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

Stone, a veteran Republican operative and self-described "dirty trickster", and Jones, founder of a conspiracy-driven radio show and webcast, are both allies of Trump and had been involved in pro-Trump events in Washington on Jan. 5, the day before the riot.

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"But one source said there has been little, if any, recent discussion by senior Justice Department officials of filing charges such as "seditious conspiracy" to accuse defendants of trying to overthrow the government. They have also opted not to bring racketeering charges, often used against organized criminal gangs."



https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/



O.K., the Commission can all go home now, and Garland is probably going to appoint another Mueller who will decline to recommend prosecution.


The fix is in.

[Walleye]

1. It's going to be, they were too dumb to conspire and plot. Like the Russia conspiracy

[orangecrush]

8. Sounds like it.

For gawds sake, dump made a public speech with the insurrectionists egging them on.

Don't believe your own eyes and ears.

[DickKessler]

13. Remember "What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening"?

Total gaslighting.

[brooklynite]

32. ...but HE didn't call for a violent response.

The critical point is that you can't go into Court and say "we know what he meant".

[DickKessler]

35. Yep. Trump is actually pretty careful about plausible deniability for himself in a LEGAL sense.

[DickKessler]

9. You mean they TRIED to conspire and plot, but their own idiocy got in the way?

[Walleye]

21. Yes. Apparently it's OK if you're a Republican.Not so much of you're a poor kid selling drugs

[DickKessler]

33. True that.

[lagomorph777]

69. Notice the date (Aug 20th) and the source (Tass/Reuters) and Rudy G's disgruntled EX-FBI agents

[Sherman A1]

2. Horse Hockey

Absolutely do not believe this to be the case.

[Sanity Claws]

19. I agree

It feels like Republicans planted the story. Elections are in less than two weeks and they want to win some gubernatorial races.

[Tanuki]

3. Hmm, the same FBI that concluded Brett Kavanagh was a choir boy?

That FBI?

[Bettie]

22. Yeah, those guys

so, I'm not buying it.

My take is that they used the rabble as cover and that didn't work the way they planned.

Also, the security got critical personnel out faster than they expected.

[notdarkyet]

24. You are wrong..

I can see it in less than hour. On tv.You need to quit or go back to work.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Yep.

The fix is in....

[luv2fly]

5. Dated August 20

Over two months ago?!

[orangecrush]

16. They are allvgettingcslaps on the wrist

Wwhat's the longest sentence handed out yet?

1 year?

[Septua]

25. Two months is a lifetime...

..when breaking news is coming up with new incriminating info every day.

[luv2fly]

29. Exactly

This really shouldn't even be considered newsworthy

[Mad_Machine76]

56. That story was walked back by the FBI or some other source

[lagomorph777]

65. Yes, this story was previously posted here and soundly ridiculed. Reuters/Tass? Please.

[dchill]

6. So Trump DID build a wall! We call it Christopher Wray.

[joetheman]

7. The planners knew damn well that working their idiot base into frenzy would result in just

what happened. They only hoped Nancy would be hurt in the process.

[orangecrush]

18. I agree.

They were fully willing to murder to keep the orange turd in power.

[Walleye]

26. Evidence.They were all delighted by the riot,never even suggested trying to stop it

[JohnSJ]

46. My thoughts exactly chin. Someone is lying

[Firestorm49]

11. What a crock. We're in deep shit here.

I posted last week that it appears that both sides are getting ready for a big change.

[FrankBooth]

12. Dateline August 20th

But do proceed to freak out and tell us with certainty about how poorly it's going.

[NQAS]

14. So all the meetings we've been reading about

Were just casual meetings among friends? Reunions to relive the good old days?

Just some good ol’ boys shelling out $600 a night on hotel rooms? And the so called war room was a code name for hospitality suite? And it was just an accident that 2,500 of them converged in a terrorist attack on the Capitol? Ok. Got it. Move along.

[blm]

15. That was a planted report. The source was not anyone working

the investigation, but, a FORMER law enforcement officer claiming to be familiar with the investigation. The ‘briefed’ person was likely a Republican congressperson. There is pure political spin language throughout the article.

This ‘report’ was hogwash back in August and still is.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

38. 👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽 THIS!! 👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽

[Nittersing]

50. Didn't Reuters recently partner up with Tass? nt

[brush]

17. The FBI is so disappointing in so many big cases. From...

Trump and Bannon promising for weeks that Jan. 6 was gonna be wild, way back to Comey's bogus Oct. 2016 letter to Congress which caused Hillary the election.

How obvious does it have to be that an anything-goes and seditious atmosphere was fostered for weeks up to Jan. 6

[orangecrush]

20. It was a planned violent ovwrthrow

Of a democratically elected President.

[Mr. Ected]

23. Let's all jump into the Wayback Machine and set our target for...August 20, 2021!

The day this debunked report was originally released.

[stillcool]

30. I thought it sounded familiar....

so glad I scanned the replies before going on the hunt. Thanks for saving me some time. Gets exhausting after a while.

[Ocelot II]

27. This is two months old - before the Rolling Stone article came out.

Sometimes reporters are better investigators than investigators.

[Bristlecone]

28. Seems dated at August 20. It also seems new information has come to light since

[BlueIdaho]

31. I have no more confidence in the FBI

Than I have for the DOJ. If this democracy is to survive we need a complete reorganization from root to branch.

[brooklynite]

34. That would be Joe Biden's DOJ, right?

[Elessar Zappa]

44. The DOJ doesn't answer to Biden.

The DOJ is independent of politics, or should be at least (we all know how Bill Barr acted as Trump’s personal attorney).

[brooklynite]

47. But Biden COULD fire Garland if he thought he wasn't being ethical...

and Biden DOES appoint US Attorneys.

[Elessar Zappa]

49. He could, yes.

I haven’t seen any evidence that Garland has been unethical, have you?

[stillcool]

36. I'm tired of reading old news that was never news

in the first place. A completely unsourced article from August, that was trashed the day it appeared. Why?

[NewJeffCT]

40. agreed

The person they quoted is a former FBI official - not somebody actually in the FBI now.

[DickKessler]

37. Ok, MOST of the crowd wasn't coordinated, as far as the FBI can tell. But there were militias...

who were well organized, well-armed, and intent on violence.

The fact that they could take advantage of the broader chaos and anger among Trump's supporters is deeply concerning, to say the least...

[NewJeffCT]

39. That article is over 2 months old and included no active FBI members

when they made their claims

[bullwinkle428]

41. Please ask the U.S. Women's Gymnastics team how thorough FBI

investigations are.

[Corgigal]

42. Then fire the A team,

bring up the B team. And let’s see what they “find”.

[Generic Brad]

43. This isn't from the Borowitz Report?

This article sure reads like satire.

[lagomorph777]

67. No, it's from Tass/Reuters in the distant past and questionable sources.

[onecaliberal]

45. They had a war room.

They were calling states, they were leaning on pence. They wrote a paper with the exact plan to STOP BIDEN FROM TAKING THE OATH. Twitter is littered with tens of thousands of posts about what they were going to do. I was reading it for weeks.
What the fuck does one call that?!?

[orangecrush]

55. Thanks.

[dalton99a]

48. It's perfectly normal to have a WAR ROOM for a rally - to help people march from point A to point B

to make sure nobody gets lost walking down the street

[ShazamIam]

51. Didn't this organization recently make a false, from FBI sources, claim about Jan 6?

[lagomorph777]

71. Yes, this is a re-post of the same sham article.

[Baked Potato]

52. There's no way a clever FBI could be juking the bad guys, right? Nt

[Kid Berwyn]

53. Cover Up SOP

Gotta stop the bleeding…otherwise USA USA might notice all the fascism.

[Thomas Hurt]

54. They talked to all the a holes in the willard yet?

[DFW]

57. In other news, a delayed report, since there was no FBI in 1865:

The war just conducted against the United States was not done so by an organized „Confederate States of America,“ but rather by a group of individual state militias whose affinity for identical grey uniforms was purely coincidental, as was their preference for picnic sites in Pennsylvania, such as Gettysburg, or locations for seminars on trauma surgery, such as Sharpsburg, Maryland.

[PufPuf23]

58. OK no so even incompetent organized coup yet obvious

that tfg and accomplices would have declared martial law and assumed emergency powers had the "riot" escalated and others such as Pence fulfilled their roles.

Those storming the Capitol should be second in DOJ and Congress investigations line of sights to those that provided political leadership and cover and financing for the event. There are individuals that long ago should be jailed pending convictions.

[orangecrush]

61. +1

[rockfordfile]

59. That reads like right-wing propaganda.

[lagomorph777]

68. It is. It's from Tass/Reuters and Rudy G's band of disgruntled EX-FBI agents.

[Vinca]

60. Is this the same group of crack investigators who have been out-investigated by

amateur Internet sleuths? I can't imagine how many criminals would have gone uncharged without ordinary citizens tracking them down and sending the results to people with the power of arrest.

[orangecrush]

62. Sediton Tracker

Has done a great job, along with others.

[CrackityJones75]

63. Aug 20th?

Haven’t we been over this already?

[lagomorph777]

64. This story is old (August 20) and discredited.

It was previously posted here and roundly ridiculed. First of all, it's from Tass/Reuters. Second "former law enforcement officials" wouldn't actually know what the FBI is doing. These are probably Giuliani's pals who "leaked" all kinds of bullshit to him in the past.

Pretty obvious that the evidence of coordination is string and growing stringer by the day.

[spanone]

66. Two words: Willard Hotel.

[bigtree]

70. old

new:

Link to tweet

Newly revealed documents show Capitol police were overly concerned with Jan 6th counterprotesters
https://www.rawstory.com/inside-the-capitol-riot/