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Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:50 PM

Screw a primary challenge to Kyrsten Sinema in 2024, recall her now!!

It is ridiculously easy to do in Arizona. We shouldn't have to wait until 2024 to get rid of her. The recall will give her time to think about which party she actually was elected through but not enough time to ride out the term.

Laws governing recall in Arizona

Laws governing recall in Arizona are defined in Article 8 of the Arizona Constitution.

The authority to conduct a recall election in Arizona applies to "Every public officer in the state of Arizona, holding an elective office, either by election or appointment."

Filing the recall petition

A recall can be filed against any public officer on any grounds. The recall may not be filed until after the elected official has been in office in his or her first term for at least six months. This six-month limit does not apply to state legislators. In the case of state legislators, a recall petition may commence five days after the start of their first legislative session after their election. In the case of other elected officials, there is no six-month limit for subsequent terms in office.

A recall petition must be filed at the office in which the officer being recalled files for nomination. The petition must contain a general statement explain the recall and not exceed 200 words. This petition must be signed by the sponsors who swear an oath that all signatures collected will be valid signatures.

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Reply Screw a primary challenge to Kyrsten Sinema in 2024, recall her now!! (Original post)
Joe Nation Oct 2021 OP
JohnSJ Oct 2021 #1
Joe Nation Oct 2021 #2
msongs Oct 2021 #4
JohnSJ Oct 2021 #6
onenote Oct 2021 #16
TwilightZone Oct 2021 #3
Joe Nation Oct 2021 #7
Sneederbunk Oct 2021 #5
Joe Nation Oct 2021 #9
WHITT Oct 2021 #14
Hortensis Oct 2021 #8
brush Oct 2021 #10
Hortensis Oct 2021 #15
brush Oct 2021 #18
Hortensis Oct 2021 #22
AllaN01Bear Oct 2021 #11
11 Bravo Oct 2021 #13
Karma13612 Oct 2021 #12
onenote Oct 2021 #21
Mosby Oct 2021 #17
brush Oct 2021 #19
brooklynite Oct 2021 #20
NurseJackie Oct 2021 #23
Hekate Oct 2021 #24

Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:52 PM

1. Terrible idea. We risk losing the majority, and it isn't worth the risk.

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:53 PM

2. What majority?

nt

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Response to Joe Nation (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:55 PM

4. are you criticizing President Manchin again? hmmmm nt

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Response to Joe Nation (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:56 PM

6. We have a majority to appoint judges if nothing else

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Response to Joe Nation (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 06:01 PM

16. The one that has confirmed more judges at this point in Biden's presidency

than had been confirmed at this point in Trump's presidency.

And, for the record, Senators cannot be recalled.


Posts that don't know the law and don't appreciate the implications of what they're demanding make me sad.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:55 PM

3. That would be stupid.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:56 PM

7. Oh yeah, look at this #RecallSinema

It's already in the works.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:56 PM

5. A US Senator cannot be recalled.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:00 PM

9. Unfortunately, you are correct.

sigh.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 05:50 PM

14. True

but I'm not about to discourage them. The optics are great.



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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:59 PM

8. Joe Nation, voters CANNOT recall their reps to the U.S. senate or house.

The electorate can't do a damned thing once reps are elected but wait for their term to run, then replace them.

I'm with others, btw, in not understanding why you, and others, feel returning the senate to a Republican majority under McConnell's control would be desirable. Would we do better with more Republican judges? Is the uncertainty too stressful? When McConnell ran that giant sucking engine we did know where we'd be tomorrow, still hooked up to the milking machine. The seduction of those Arizona cliffs?



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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:20 PM

10. Now is too soon. If the infrastruture bills fail and we lose the...

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mid-terms and our Congressional majorities, then I say go as the rest of Joe's term will be dead in the water.

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Response to brush (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 05:59 PM

15. Um, not too soon for her to switch parties, though,

quickly, before either bill is passed (and we are passing them). If she did it this evening, we'd wake up to a Republican majority in the senate. Fait accompli, bills dead, or at least McConnell's to do pretty much what he wanted with.

The committees all have minority leaders in place, so, poof to our chairmanships and anything we planned to bring out of them. I'm sure McConnell knows exactly who he wants where, in case.

And then on to the midterms to see if we can make sure both majorities are lost and stay lost.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 06:28 PM

18. If she switches now she guarantees she'll be primaried. No, wait.

If she switches we don't have to primay her. An actual republican probably will as that party prefers a real one instead of a faux one who doesn't know what she is.

Nonetheless, if the bills pass and we win the mid-terms and maintain our Congressional majorities, she'll have two years to try to make amends to AZ Democrats.

But I doubt she'll succeed as she doesn't seem to be even interested in what her constituents want. She wants what she wants and that seems to be to cater to big money donors.

I think she'll be a one-term senator whatever happens. Her true character has emerged and it's not what she sold us during her campaign as a progressive interested in environmental issues. A Trojan horse is what she is.

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Response to brush (Reply #18)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:15 PM

22. Yes, she mislead Democrats and those farther left

to get into the senate and is now realigning. She seems to believe she can lose the farther left progressives, who were probably her least stable and most demanding support anyway, plus a lot of Democrats, and make it up with moderate conservatives and lots of money.

As you say, she has a long time to do it. Not saying she won't be primaried of course, and this time hopefully she'll face a strong challenger. I think her biggest liability may just be her gender because it almost always is. There's a reason that to defeat female HRC the swiftboaters worked so hard to style her as untrustworthy. Sinema's doing it for herself.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:46 PM

11. she dosnt give a hoot,hoot, about her voters , only her doners , esp the big ones .

if can would love to see this congress critter recalled.

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:57 PM

13. Senators and members of Congress CAN'T be recalled. Not happening.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:56 PM

12. I think this is only state level office holders. Unfortunately.

Otherwise, I think there would have been a recall brewing by now.

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Response to Karma13612 (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 07:05 PM

21. The Republicans certainly would have started one if they could

They would be all but guaranteed to pick up the seat.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 06:27 PM

17. Who wore it better.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 06:57 PM

19. Heehee. I'll go with Snider.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 07:04 PM

20. Perhaps before joining in on an emotional outburst, read the ol' Constitution.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:19 PM

23. Ridiculous.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:28 PM

24. She is serving as a US Senator, right? Elected according to laws in the US Constitution, yes?

There’s federal and then there’s state, okay? Sinema is NOT “an officer in the State of Arizona.”

The Constitution under which she has her job is very straightforward about “recalls” for federally-elected officials. They are called “Elections,” and they take place every 2, 4, and 6 years, depending on whether the person in question is holding the office of Representative, President, or Senator respectively.

Recalling her is not your remedy. Luring her away with the offer of a more prestigious job might induce her to resign. Arresting and convicting her of an actual crime might get her out of Washington for awhile.

But basically, Joe Nation, it is not that easy to get rid of an unpopular elected federal official in midterm. Just vote her out of office next time, and pick someone better.

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