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Joe Nation

(963 posts)
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:50 PM Oct 2021

Screw a primary challenge to Kyrsten Sinema in 2024, recall her now!!

It is ridiculously easy to do in Arizona. We shouldn't have to wait until 2024 to get rid of her. The recall will give her time to think about which party she actually was elected through but not enough time to ride out the term.

Laws governing recall in Arizona

Laws governing recall in Arizona are defined in Article 8 of the Arizona Constitution.

The authority to conduct a recall election in Arizona applies to "Every public officer in the state of Arizona, holding an elective office, either by election or appointment."

Filing the recall petition

A recall can be filed against any public officer on any grounds. The recall may not be filed until after the elected official has been in office in his or her first term for at least six months. This six-month limit does not apply to state legislators. In the case of state legislators, a recall petition may commence five days after the start of their first legislative session after their election. In the case of other elected officials, there is no six-month limit for subsequent terms in office.

A recall petition must be filed at the office in which the officer being recalled files for nomination. The petition must contain a general statement explain the recall and not exceed 200 words. This petition must be signed by the sponsors who swear an oath that all signatures collected will be valid signatures.

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Screw a primary challenge to Kyrsten Sinema in 2024, recall her now!! (Original Post) Joe Nation Oct 2021 OP
Terrible idea. We risk losing the majority, and it isn't worth the risk. JohnSJ Oct 2021 #1
What majority? Joe Nation Oct 2021 #2
are you criticizing President Manchin again? hmmmm nt msongs Oct 2021 #4
We have a majority to appoint judges if nothing else JohnSJ Oct 2021 #6
The one that has confirmed more judges at this point in Biden's presidency onenote Oct 2021 #16
That would be stupid. TwilightZone Oct 2021 #3
Oh yeah, look at this #RecallSinema Joe Nation Oct 2021 #7
A US Senator cannot be recalled. Sneederbunk Oct 2021 #5
Unfortunately, you are correct. Joe Nation Oct 2021 #9
True WHITT Oct 2021 #14
Joe Nation, voters CANNOT recall their reps to the U.S. senate or house. Hortensis Oct 2021 #8
Now is too soon. If the infrastruture bills fail and we lose the... brush Oct 2021 #10
Um, not too soon for her to switch parties, though, Hortensis Oct 2021 #15
If she switches now she guarantees she'll be primaried. No, wait. brush Oct 2021 #18
Yes, she mislead Democrats and those farther left Hortensis Oct 2021 #22
she dosnt give a hoot,hoot, about her voters , only her doners , esp the big ones . AllaN01Bear Oct 2021 #11
Senators and members of Congress CAN'T be recalled. Not happening. 11 Bravo Oct 2021 #13
I think this is only state level office holders. Unfortunately. Karma13612 Oct 2021 #12
The Republicans certainly would have started one if they could onenote Oct 2021 #21
Who wore it better. Mosby Oct 2021 #17
Heehee. I'll go with Snider. brush Oct 2021 #19
Perhaps before joining in on an emotional outburst, read the ol' Constitution. brooklynite Oct 2021 #20
Ridiculous. NurseJackie Oct 2021 #23
She is serving as a US Senator, right? Elected according to laws in the US Constitution, yes? Hekate Oct 2021 #24

onenote

(42,703 posts)
16. The one that has confirmed more judges at this point in Biden's presidency
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 06:01 PM
Oct 2021

than had been confirmed at this point in Trump's presidency.

And, for the record, Senators cannot be recalled.


Posts that don't know the law and don't appreciate the implications of what they're demanding make me sad.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Joe Nation, voters CANNOT recall their reps to the U.S. senate or house.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:59 PM
Oct 2021

The electorate can't do a damned thing once reps are elected but wait for their term to run, then replace them.

I'm with others, btw, in not understanding why you, and others, feel returning the senate to a Republican majority under McConnell's control would be desirable. Would we do better with more Republican judges? Is the uncertainty too stressful? When McConnell ran that giant sucking engine we did know where we'd be tomorrow, still hooked up to the milking machine. The seduction of those Arizona cliffs?



brush

(53,778 posts)
10. Now is too soon. If the infrastruture bills fail and we lose the...
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:20 PM
Oct 2021

Last edited Tue Oct 26, 2021, 06:20 PM - Edit history (1)

mid-terms and our Congressional majorities, then I say go as the rest of Joe's term will be dead in the water.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Um, not too soon for her to switch parties, though,
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 05:59 PM
Oct 2021

quickly, before either bill is passed (and we are passing them). If she did it this evening, we'd wake up to a Republican majority in the senate. Fait accompli, bills dead, or at least McConnell's to do pretty much what he wanted with.

The committees all have minority leaders in place, so, poof to our chairmanships and anything we planned to bring out of them. I'm sure McConnell knows exactly who he wants where, in case.

And then on to the midterms to see if we can make sure both majorities are lost and stay lost.

brush

(53,778 posts)
18. If she switches now she guarantees she'll be primaried. No, wait.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 06:28 PM
Oct 2021

If she switches we don't have to primay her. An actual republican probably will as that party prefers a real one instead of a faux one who doesn't know what she is.

Nonetheless, if the bills pass and we win the mid-terms and maintain our Congressional majorities, she'll have two years to try to make amends to AZ Democrats.

But I doubt she'll succeed as she doesn't seem to be even interested in what her constituents want. She wants what she wants and that seems to be to cater to big money donors.

I think she'll be a one-term senator whatever happens. Her true character has emerged and it's not what she sold us during her campaign as a progressive interested in environmental issues. A Trojan horse is what she is.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Yes, she mislead Democrats and those farther left
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:15 PM
Oct 2021

to get into the senate and is now realigning. She seems to believe she can lose the farther left progressives, who were probably her least stable and most demanding support anyway, plus a lot of Democrats, and make it up with moderate conservatives and lots of money.

As you say, she has a long time to do it. Not saying she won't be primaried of course, and this time hopefully she'll face a strong challenger. I think her biggest liability may just be her gender because it almost always is. There's a reason that to defeat female HRC the swiftboaters worked so hard to style her as untrustworthy. Sinema's doing it for herself.

AllaN01Bear

(18,216 posts)
11. she dosnt give a hoot,hoot, about her voters , only her doners , esp the big ones .
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:46 PM
Oct 2021

if can would love to see this congress critter recalled.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
12. I think this is only state level office holders. Unfortunately.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 04:56 PM
Oct 2021

Otherwise, I think there would have been a recall brewing by now.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
21. The Republicans certainly would have started one if they could
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 07:05 PM
Oct 2021

They would be all but guaranteed to pick up the seat.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
24. She is serving as a US Senator, right? Elected according to laws in the US Constitution, yes?
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:28 PM
Oct 2021

There’s federal and then there’s state, okay? Sinema is NOT “an officer in the State of Arizona.”

The Constitution under which she has her job is very straightforward about “recalls” for federally-elected officials. They are called “Elections,” and they take place every 2, 4, and 6 years, depending on whether the person in question is holding the office of Representative, President, or Senator respectively.

Recalling her is not your remedy. Luring her away with the offer of a more prestigious job might induce her to resign. Arresting and convicting her of an actual crime might get her out of Washington for awhile.

But basically, Joe Nation, it is not that easy to get rid of an unpopular elected federal official in midterm. Just vote her out of office next time, and pick someone better.

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