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Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 11:46 AM Oct 2021

Solution to the School Board madness going on now

Put guards at the door and if you do not have a child in the school board area.. then you do not get in.. if you pay taxes in that school board district and need to address the board about taxes.. then let that person in.. but outsiders have no business messing in the working of a local school board..

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Solution to the School Board madness going on now (Original Post) Peacetrain Oct 2021 OP
Freedumb of speach!!!!! LakeArenal Oct 2021 #1
Oh I like that one Peacetrain Oct 2021 #2
😉 LakeArenal Oct 2021 #15
That's already being done, but it is the people directly involved (paying taxes and with kids PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #3
Yep many school board areas have crazies in them Peacetrain Oct 2021 #5
I mostly agree, but believe proof of residency should be the criteria. I can assure you that I care hlthe2b Oct 2021 #4
If the taxpayer is a disruptor and keeps others from participating Peacetrain Oct 2021 #6
Same as you do with any individual disrupting a public meeting. Security escorts them out. hlthe2b Oct 2021 #8
I think I have reached that point where someone yelling an screaming Peacetrain Oct 2021 #9
Exactly what I am calling for. If local police won't act, then we need to hire private security. hlthe2b Oct 2021 #11
+1000 Peacetrain Oct 2021 #12
Hold meetings on Zoom. Disruptors get muted or ejected. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #19
I have to show proof of residency onethatcares Oct 2021 #7
So do I.. I had completely forgot about that..but to go to the local landfill Peacetrain Oct 2021 #10
WRONG 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #13
Sorry about that, but not anyone is allowed to threaten & disrupt... Hekate Oct 2021 #24
Re-read the original post. 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #26
If someone is there to keep others from participating you are damn right I am against that.. Peacetrain Oct 2021 #27
We'll try it a different way. 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #33
Of course, Hekate. And this is growing beyond disrupting meetings Hortensis Oct 2021 #29
From today's Toons... Hekate Oct 2021 #30
So serious a threat the senate is addressing it. Hortensis Oct 2021 #31
Gross. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #14
I was thinking more like recruiting Hell's Angels members to stand guard. LaMouffette Oct 2021 #16
Okay, now I feel bad for my previous post. More peaceful idea: Don't do in-person meetings anymore. LaMouffette Oct 2021 #18
That went well at Altamont hardluck Oct 2021 #22
I recall the reaction to arming up the schools with guards... LiberatedUSA Oct 2021 #17
No comparison, USA. The one was extremely unlikely to ever happen Hortensis Oct 2021 #32
The boards have the power old guy Oct 2021 #20
Don't School Boards generally have to follow Sunshine Laws? Dr. Strange Oct 2021 #21
My solution - load up the early part of the meeting agenda ThoughtCriminal Oct 2021 #23
Actually they should hold them on ZOOM. twin_ghost Oct 2021 #25
If people are being followed home and threatened at meetings.. zoom sounds rational to me!! Peacetrain Oct 2021 #28

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. That's already being done, but it is the people directly involved (paying taxes and with kids
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 11:50 AM
Oct 2021

in school) that are most vocal about what is going on.

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
5. Yep many school board areas have crazies in them
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 11:54 AM
Oct 2021

and if the rest of the populace in that area does not stand up to them and vote in rules to address a board by.. then you are going to have a mess.. but a lot of these crazies coming into school boards are not even in the districts.. you get loud and people step back.. sometimes you have to push back if you want to keep any semblance of order.. if they are in the district, but are raucous and interrupt others then bar them from the meetings..

At some point the adults have to take back control.. and it is not always easy

hlthe2b

(113,973 posts)
4. I mostly agree, but believe proof of residency should be the criteria. I can assure you that I care
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 11:54 AM
Oct 2021

every bit as much about the schools that produce our future, as those who have children in those schools--as do teachers and staff who may not have children in school as well. Hell, I probably spent more time researching candidates for the upcoming District school board election this year than almost any other issue.

The point is to keep outside organized trouble-makers out. Not taxpayers in the district.

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
6. If the taxpayer is a disruptor and keeps others from participating
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 11:58 AM
Oct 2021

what do you do then? I think everyone attending a meeting has a right to hear everyone. But no one individual or group even if they live in that area have the right to stop others from participating..

hlthe2b

(113,973 posts)
8. Same as you do with any individual disrupting a public meeting. Security escorts them out.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 12:01 PM
Oct 2021

I might add that it appears to be parents causing the problems among those living in the district (but not among outsiders coming to stir up problems--thus the need for proof of residency). This idea that only parents care about our kids and their education is partially what has gotten us into these problems in the first place. Your fellow, but deluded parents are largely troublemakers in most settings across the country. You should welcome the informed and thoughtful participants who actually want to help the cause--not single them out for exclusion. Why you would single them out with no evidence they are trouble makers confuses me. Talk about biting off one's nose to spite their face...

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
9. I think I have reached that point where someone yelling an screaming
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 12:05 PM
Oct 2021

and threatening school board members volunteers etc.. follow them home .. I am so over it..and we need to restore some order or our society will cease to exist..

hlthe2b

(113,973 posts)
11. Exactly what I am calling for. If local police won't act, then we need to hire private security.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 12:06 PM
Oct 2021

And voters need to research who they are putting in the office of Sheriff, District Attorney, Voter Registrar, Chief of Police, elected judges, and School Boards/Superintendents. The days of the single issue or candidate voting should have been gone decades ago. Now it is critical to inform ourselves (and sadly, given the demise of local reporting, we need local newspapers and media to do it).

onethatcares

(16,992 posts)
7. I have to show proof of residency
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 12:00 PM
Oct 2021

to take my yard clippings to the city landfill. It's an easy enough solution.

The Bundy's got away with drawing down on federal agents, they shouldn't receive a bit of government
assistance for crop damage, herd damage, water mitigation or anything that pertains to "One out of many">

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
10. So do I.. I had completely forgot about that..but to go to the local landfill
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 12:06 PM
Oct 2021

and leave anything off I have to prove I live in that area..

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
24. Sorry about that, but not anyone is allowed to threaten & disrupt...
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 07:41 PM
Oct 2021

They can be ejected if they do. The First Amendment is NOT without limitations or consequences.

I served on several County commissions over 20 years, and was Chair on one of them for 7+ years. As part of that and part of other activities in the County I also spoke before the Board of Supervisors numerous times.

Even in fairly civil times, there were and are rules that could be invoked to ensure things stayed civil. Trump and his thugs caught public servants off guard and made sure they stayed off-balance.

It is way past time to protect our public servants and public spaces.

3Hotdogs

(15,369 posts)
26. Re-read the original post.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 08:14 PM
Oct 2021

It proposes denying admission to public meetings. That is unconstitutional.

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
27. If someone is there to keep others from participating you are damn right I am against that..
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 10:55 AM
Oct 2021

Show me where the constitution says someone has the right to deny others to participate by jeering or follow them home and threaten their physical safety or that of their families.. hmmph

3Hotdogs

(15,369 posts)
33. We'll try it a different way.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 03:18 PM
Oct 2021

No one is allowed to disrupt.

Everyone is allowed into a public meeting until they disrupt.

The OP wants to prevent people from entering the meeting. That is illegal prior restraint.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Of course, Hekate. And this is growing beyond disrupting meetings
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 11:13 AM
Oct 2021

into a possibly existential problem. In many areas, public servants may be forced by threats of violence against themselves and their families to withdraw from office, leaving vacancies for RW extremists to take over local government.

This is what happened in nations that fell to the Nazis 90 years ago. With local governments, including police departments, largely taken over, mobs were emboldened and empowered to attack people they didn't like in the streets and even in their homes.

As we now know they've become not just capable of that, but many even eager. We eat children's faces, after all.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. So serious a threat the senate is addressing it.
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 11:52 AM
Oct 2021

I always knew it could happen here, just never thought it could. And now the threat is accelerating dreadfully. It wasn't like this even a year ago.

LaMouffette

(2,640 posts)
16. I was thinking more like recruiting Hell's Angels members to stand guard.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 12:15 PM
Oct 2021

The Trump humpers have no respect for the rule of law, as evidenced by January 6th. They are so brazen now that they would unleash all kinds of abuse on a couple of security guards or even police officers, if not actual violence.

Why not post some truly scary, Danny-Trejo-fierce, motorcycle gang members at the door instead, people who would have no compunctions about punching these idiots' lights out? Watch the cowards turn tail and run.

And this, coming from a pacifist! I tell you, the right is radicalizing me!

LaMouffette

(2,640 posts)
18. Okay, now I feel bad for my previous post. More peaceful idea: Don't do in-person meetings anymore.
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 12:18 PM
Oct 2021

Take it to Zoom.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
17. I recall the reaction to arming up the schools with guards...
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 12:17 PM
Oct 2021

…as a solution to mass shooting was generally people felt that was a fubar idea. Seems a little cold in the year for flip flops.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. No comparison, USA. The one was extremely unlikely to ever happen
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 11:58 AM
Oct 2021

at any individual school. We have something like 150,000 elementary, middle and high schools.

The other IS HAPPENING NOW around the nation, with real promise of getting much worse.

old guy

(3,299 posts)
20. The boards have the power
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 02:12 PM
Oct 2021

to limit and even suspend public comment at those meetings. It is never popular but it is within their power.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,721 posts)
23. My solution - load up the early part of the meeting agenda
Wed Oct 27, 2021, 07:25 PM
Oct 2021

with the most gawd-awful, boring stuff that they have to deal with and then debate that stuff to death until the ones with the MAGA hats decide they have had enough and leave.

Nothing works like a 40-minute discussion about re-painting playground equipment for thinning out the crowd.

I've been to a few school board meetings and would either chew my arm off or fake my own death to get out of there.

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
28. If people are being followed home and threatened at meetings.. zoom sounds rational to me!!
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 10:56 AM
Oct 2021
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