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Thu Oct 28, 2021, 08:42 AM

Let me make this pellucidly clear

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Shortages and supply chain issues have nothing to do with the Federal government or state governments. Those are private sector matters brought about by the pandemic.

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Reply Let me make this pellucidly clear (Original post)
malaise Oct 2021 OP
bullwinkle428 Oct 2021 #1
malaise Oct 2021 #2
bullwinkle428 Oct 2021 #13
malaise Oct 2021 #17
malaise Oct 2021 #18
malaise Oct 2021 #3
MontanaMama Oct 2021 #34
Act_of_Reparation Oct 2021 #4
sheilahi Oct 2021 #5
Ka-Dinh Oy Oct 2021 #35
plimsoll Oct 2021 #6
Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2021 #7
malaise Oct 2021 #8
Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2021 #26
malaise Oct 2021 #9
Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2021 #25
Hulk Oct 2021 #10
Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #11
Farmer-Rick Oct 2021 #31
malaise Oct 2021 #37
Farmer-Rick Oct 2021 #39
Hulk Oct 2021 #12
malaise Oct 2021 #21
multigraincracker Oct 2021 #14
berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #15
malaise Oct 2021 #24
NHvet Oct 2021 #16
malaise Oct 2021 #23
Farmer-Rick Oct 2021 #19
malaise Oct 2021 #22
NHvet Oct 2021 #27
Martin Eden Oct 2021 #20
malaise Oct 2021 #29
geardaddy Oct 2021 #28
IggleDuer Oct 2021 #30
FakeNoose Oct 2021 #32
rickyhall Oct 2021 #33
paulkienitz Oct 2021 #36
Moebym Oct 2021 #38
Shermann Oct 2021 #40
llmart Oct 2021 #42
Shermann Oct 2021 #47
EarnestPutz Oct 2021 #41
KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2021 #43
malaise Oct 2021 #45
jaxexpat Oct 2021 #44
malaise Oct 2021 #46

Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 08:48 AM

1. If only this country had enough intelligent people that realized this truth. Instead,

we have 74 million people that voted for the Grand Venereal Wizard.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 08:53 AM

2. Wish I could rec for

Grand Venereal Wizard

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Response to malaise (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:31 AM

13. I have to give credit to John Fugelsang, who is my primary source for

joke theft!

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:35 AM

17. Love it

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 11:04 AM

34. I think we can end the thread

right hereÖGrand Venereal Wizard.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 08:58 AM

4. You know that and I know that...

...but the general public does not, and there's probably not much we can do at this point to educate them or assuage their concerns. It might not be fair, but like it or not the impetus is now on the government to do something to address the problem.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:08 AM

5. thanks

Thanks Malaise. Now you've made me get up and find my dictionary to look up "pecllucily". I need to be talked to like I'm three. Lol

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Response to sheilahi (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 11:25 AM

35. That was my first thought.

However, I am to lazy to get up at this moment.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:09 AM

6. What? Capitalism doesn't optimize for reliability.

Who knew?

Let's see. Texas power grid. Supply chain. The list goes on and on with less publicly humiliating failures.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:18 AM

7. +1,000,000. Add the "d" :)

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:19 AM

8. Ha

did that while you were posting

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Response to malaise (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:58 AM

26. Great minds think alike and so do we :)

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:19 AM

9. Ha

did that while you were posting

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:58 AM

25. Great minds think alike and so do we :)

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:26 AM

10. Facts don't matter when your head is in the gQp party

 

Good you spread the message. fox-propaganda will continue to pin everything wrong on Biden and this administration.

Keep posting and spead the word like a mantra.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:30 AM

11. It's pretty simple really

People have been sitting at home because of the pandemic, they've not spent money on travel. So with the extra money, they bought stuff online at higher rates. That depleted the supply chain. Coupled with some Covid based factory pauses and shutdowns, you have what we have. And it's far from a crisis, it's merely some inconvenience.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 10:21 AM

31. Is this some kind of talking point or something?

I've heard this before, especially from the GOP types around here in the South.

Everyone is staying home and so have extra money. We never traveled before the pandemic. Travel was a special treat we reserved for holidays or anniversaries. Maybe we traveled once every 5 years. Yeah, we spent money on gas, but since we were farmers, I still bought gas for our tractors and farm equipment during the pandemic. Were normal people traveling alot outside of work? This sounds like what a rich person thinks inside their bubble. Losing a job cost a lot more than paying for gas to get there. It did not equal out for many workers.

I got no extra money, aside from the meager lump sum payments the government daned to handout after giving billions to billionaires. But that little bit is long, long gone. I'm certainly not using it now to buy luxuries.

So, where is all this extra money people say we all have? I've been hearing about it. But why didn't I get any of it?

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 03:24 PM

37. Yes ReTHUGs are trying to blame Biden for supply problems

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Response to malaise (Reply #37)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 06:29 PM

39. Ahhhh

I see said this blind man.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:30 AM

12. Transparently clear....new word to my 74 year old vocabulary

 

Getting smarter every day..😈

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Response to Hulk (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:43 AM

21. I stole it from one of our union leaders years ago

He could not resist being repetitive, but there's a great read on its use at the US Supreme Court

http://www.newyorkcourtwatcher.com/2009/12/pellucidly-clear-at-supreme-court-ny.html

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:33 AM

14. Those that worship the Holy Free Market

think the market can solve everything. They should use the country with the least government interference. Somalia, the Libertarian Dream, low taxes and little government interference.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:34 AM

15. True, but they can impact the economy

 

And when it impacts the economy, it becomes Bidenís problem. And Public Health is under the realm of the government. So managing the pandemic is Bidenís concern.

You canít just pull these issues apart. They are all interconnected.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:48 AM

24. I agree re the management of the pandemic

and Biden has done and is doing a great job

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:35 AM

16. 40 plus years in the making

After years and years of the businesses moving offshore in search of lower costs, less regulations and little or no government oversight (no unions, no child labor laws, no EPA, no OSHA, and best off virtually no taxes) has brought all this on. In large part to the lobbying of the Chamber of Commerce of the republican party to have laws written by them to reward such moves. Throw in a pandemic, shut down large patches of the worlds economies and this is what happens. Going global has its drawbacks... who knew?

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Response to NHvet (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:45 AM

23. What they do is credit themselves for anything that works

and then blame the government for their fuck ups.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:37 AM

19. Yup, "free" trade removed the remains of regulations from the supply lines

Deregulation wasn't just a stupid idea. It was actually implimented throughout the US. Mergers, acquisitions, consolidation and removal of excess capacity of our distribution and supply system was completed.

And that's why you got a bunch of billionaires making tons of excess wealth off of the broken rubber band of the American market place.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:44 AM

22. Well said

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:58 AM

27. Correct you are.....

and why the middle class is disappering in the US

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:42 AM

20. Brought on by the pandemic, which wouldn't be nearly as bad

If not for the a$$holes trying to blame supply chain issues on Biden.

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 10:03 AM

29. That's the truth

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 10:00 AM

28. Bingo!

Where are the idiots who say, "We should run government like we business."?

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 10:10 AM

30. Don't Moscow Mitch and his wife, former Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chau ..

Ö own a large shipping company from Asia?

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 10:27 AM

32. The empty shipping containers need to be loaded onto ships and taken back to China

... or wherever they came from.

There's such a clutter of empty containers on the docks (West Coast) that they can't unload the newest shipments until they make some room. I believe the (federal or state) government will have to step in and start ordering them to do this, because nobody is showing any leadership at the docks.

In addition there are serious manpower shortages among the dockworkers, and that's mainly due to Covid. (That's my guess anyway.)

Perhaps the U.S. Coast Guard can step in a provide manpower, and the U.S. Navy can provide ships to carry empty containers back to China? Just to get them out of the way....

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 10:49 AM

33. By predicting it, it becomes inevitable.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 01:15 PM

36. too many truck, rail, and warehouse workers are too Trumpified to wear their masks

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 04:51 PM

38. Unfortunately, we can't expect the average person to make this association.

The average person will go no further than blaming the president currently in charge and whichever party they are disinclined to support.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 08:25 PM

40. I do think the previous administration scared a lot of Boomers into early retirement nt

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Response to Shermann (Reply #40)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:37 PM

42. That's not been talked about enough, as far as I'm concerned.

I retired a year before the pandemic hit. I live in a neighborhood that's mostly people 60+. My family and friends are mostly 60+. I can't begin to tell you how many people I know who decided to retire when the country went into lockdown. Some of them had planned on working until they were 70 but decided not to. Boomers are a huge population and we should have seen this coming pandemic or not. Our country and populace has never been good at thinking far enough down the road before the problems arise.

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Response to llmart (Reply #42)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 03:34 PM

47. It's been predicted for a long time

I think the pandemic definitely sped things up. Boomers, being older, generally had higher paying jobs. Those vacancies are being filled by younger people leaving crappier, lower paying jobs.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 09:34 PM

41. Clearly clear.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Oct 28, 2021, 10:53 PM

43. Malaise, we might note the public sector's key part of our supply chain is relatively healthy.

That is, ROADS. The U.S. Postal Service is important too.

However, if Libertarian Rethugs get their way, infrastructure will continue to decline by lack of funding so they can claim it needs to be privatized. Gotta have profit from everything in their way of thinking.

The private sector's huge elephant in the room is that it has no morals. Therefore, no obligation to human rights or community.

KY

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #43)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:04 AM

45. Oh yes -the government's role is related to infrastructure and

regulations. They have decimated regulations and lots of work is needed re infrastructure but the road network is pretty good. The private sector hasn't done enough damage to the social good yet - now their aim is to destroy public education. Go figure

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:02 AM

44. MSM in conjunction with the conservatronic PTB are Carterizing their own creation.

I watched from the seawall in Galveston as the worlds super-tanker fleet rode at anchor en masse in the parking reserve area just off the Bolivar Straight, waiting while the gas lines of 1979 grew into a national panic. When the public finally associated blame for the (totally manufactured) "gas shortage" with the fact of a Democrat in the Whitehouse and an irreversible rise in pump prices, the ships lifted anchor and filled the refineries of Texas city, Houston and Bayport with crude oil. Like Magic, the gas lines disappeared everywhere except in the collective memory of Reagan voters.
I presume the same technique was applied in other US ports which had large refining components but have no personal experience as evidence like I do for the Galveston Bay area.

They can, will, and probably ARE doing the same song and dance today with imported goods' price rises. Rarely performing such highly publicized operations without multiple win-wins built into the scheme, this time around the PTB are force feeding the idea that our dependence on Chinese manufacturing is causing the US and thus the average citizen damage as some sort of plot by the Chinese government, unwittingly (or intentionally) aided by the "Democrat" executive. This time they even have the gall to float the idea that the Federal government needs to fund "necessary" port improvements to alleviate this manufactured problem.

The "Powers That Be" have occasional moments of actually participating in the maintenance of their supremacy and, like the seasons, they are predictable. At one time it was coupled with the odd term, "business cycle". They are now into their "grift the pandemic panic" phase which followed on the heels of the "we're all in this together, trusting each other" phase.

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Response to jaxexpat (Reply #44)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:05 AM

46. Great post

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