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Sabuca

(48 posts)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:02 AM Oct 2021

"In every election but one since Jimmy Carter, the President's party has lost the VA Governor race"

See, in order to get revenue-attracting clicks, pundits and journalists are not supposed to tell you this.
Why is the incumbent n trouble in Virginia? Because he always is! When the President is in his party, that is.
This context doesn't lend itself to clickbait, because it gets in the way of 'the sky in falling" punditry.

And you cannot pretend Virginia is a "national barometer" if your readers realize that the state has a unique characteristic.


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"In every election but one since Jimmy Carter, the President's party has lost the VA Governor race" (Original Post) Sabuca Oct 2021 OP
McAuliffe isn't an incumbent FBaggins Oct 2021 #1
Thanks. You beat me to it. Does NC do this too? NT mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2021 #2
No, Govs in NC can serve more than one term consecutively obamanut2012 Oct 2021 #3
it used to be that way but in the 1980's they changed the rules. dsc Oct 2021 #6
I recently read an article about Terry Sanford. He couldn't succeed himself. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2021 #7
Gov Hunt was the first to succeed himself in the 1980's. dsc Oct 2021 #9
The analyst didn't talk about incumbents (my mistake, but irrelevant fact) Sabuca Oct 2021 #4
If the moon aligns with Saturn and Jupiter ForgedCrank Oct 2021 #5
The incumbent can't run in VA. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #8
Do you have a source for Terry's popularity in his prior term onenote Oct 2021 #10
This Needs To Be Bumped Up Mayday_Messenger Nov 2021 #11

mahatmakanejeeves

(56,421 posts)
7. I recently read an article about Terry Sanford. He couldn't succeed himself.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:46 AM
Oct 2021

He was governor about sixty years ago.

Here it is. I was going through old email, and there was a link to this.

Retropolis

How a courageous Southern governor broke ranks with segregationists in 1961



North Carolina Gov. Terry Sanford presents a scroll to President John F. Kennedy at the White House on April 27, 1961. (Henry Burroughs/AP)

By John Drescher
January 1, 2021 at 7:00 a.m. EST

Sixty years ago, as Southern governors criticized civil rights protests and fought integration, one broke ranks and gave a remarkable inauguration address: He called for equal opportunities for all his state’s residents.

North Carolina’s Terry Sanford, then 43 years old, was one of the first major Southern politicians to endorse John F. Kennedy for president. The two Democrats — energetic World War II veterans born three months apart — campaigned together across North Carolina in the fall of 1960. Sanford won the governor’s race and helped Kennedy carry the state in that nail-biting election.

Eight weeks later, with Kennedy’s brother Robert in the audience, Sanford took to the stage of Raleigh’s crowded Memorial Auditorium, bedecked with red, white and blue bunting, and gave his first address as governor.

“We are not going to forget, as we move into the challenging and demanding years ahead, that no group of our citizens can be denied the right to participate in the opportunities of first-class citizenship,” Sanford said near the end of his speech. He called for North Carolina to extend its spirit of goodwill so that its energy could be “directed toward building a better and more fruitful life for all the people of our state.”

Sanford spoke only a few sentences on issues of race. Yet those sentences were starkly different from the statements of other Southern governors of that era.

{snip}

John Drescher is a national politics editor at The Washington Post.
 

Sabuca

(48 posts)
4. The analyst didn't talk about incumbents (my mistake, but irrelevant fact)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:19 AM
Oct 2021

I don't know why I typed incumbent, but the fact is that the president's party barely ever fares well here.

ForgedCrank

(1,656 posts)
5. If the moon aligns with Saturn and Jupiter
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:24 AM
Oct 2021

on the third Sunday of the 4th month in the third decade of an even numbered century, except for that one time but only on an odd year...
bah. We will take VA!

11. This Needs To Be Bumped Up
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 07:37 PM
Nov 2021

and everyone needs to keep this in mind. VA has a history of what we are seeing tonight. It happened with Clinton and Obama. It didn't mean everything was doom and gloom for Democrats moving forward though!

Lot of people will overreact to this election (just as they did to past VA Governor elections). Yes, lessons should be learn but it isn't the end of the world. Just ask Clinton and Obama (or even Reagan and George W. Bush!).

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