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bluewater

(5,420 posts)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:33 AM Oct 2021

Call me when Manchin & Sinema PUBLICLY support ANY form of the Build Back Better bill

Until then it's all just sound and fury.

And by support, I don't mean vague handwaving, I mean a public commitment to vote for an agreed upon framework.

I'll wait here.



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Tom Rinaldo

(23,195 posts)
1. If the Infrastructure Bill passed before they have to committ to Build Back Better...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:39 AM
Oct 2021

No way they would ever support it in the current framework form.

bluewater

(5,420 posts)
2. That's the feeling I am getting...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:43 AM
Oct 2021

That Manchin and Sinema do not want the Build Back Better bill to pass in any form.

The progressives have already accepted the framework President Biden released on Thursday.

What's keeping Manchin and Sinema?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
5. Manchin is already on record as saying he sees no reason to pass the BBB "this year".
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:54 AM
Oct 2021

And he seems to have a new or repeated objection each week.

I think Sinema wants the BIF but would be happy if the BBB went away.

hamsterjill

(17,764 posts)
3. Call me when the bills are signed.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:50 AM
Oct 2021

I don't trust those two one bit. I'm patient and willing to wait until I see it done and complete. Until then, I'm not counting anything that isn't signed, sealed and delivered.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
4. Don't even count words - only a vote really counts.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:51 AM
Oct 2021

The bill is over 1,000 pages long. They can say they support the "framework" and at the last minute say NO because they discovered something buried in the bill they object to.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
6. I think if they do it to the framework publicly, it is a done deal. The fact that they haven't
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:56 AM
Oct 2021

publicly committed to the framework speaks volumes


bluewater

(5,420 posts)
9. "The fact that they haven't publicly committed to the framework speaks volumes"
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 11:10 AM
Oct 2021

I totally agree.

If Manchin and Sinema just said they would vote for a bill following President Biden's framework announced on Thursday, the House would have passed the infrastructure bill that very same evening.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
12. Passing the infrastructure bill would have been a mistake.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:03 PM
Oct 2021

There is still a fight over what is in the final BBB bill. Can't release the hostage until the bill text is settled.

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