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Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:07 PM

neighbor shot kid because he was angry about bikes left on sidewalk in front of home.

Michigan Family Sues Neighbor After 6-Year-Old Shot While Picking Up His Bike





The family of a 6-year-old boy who was shot in Ypsilanti Township, Michigan, earlier this year has filed a lawsuit against their neighbors, TMZ reported. According to the family, Coby Daniel was shot in front of the home of Michigan Family Sues Neighbor After 6-Year-Old Shot While Picking Up His Bike


Le-Nguyen allegedly chased the child with a sledgehammer and shot him in the arm because he was angry about children leaving their bikes on the sidewalk in front of his home. The family is now seeking $4 million in damages. They say the neighbors should have known children in the neighborhood played near their yard and they should have kept it safe for them.


Le-Nguyen is also accused of showing "aggressive behavior" toward children several times in the past.

Security video from one of the houses shows multiple children frantically running away after hearing shots in the neighborhood. The children then call for help after noticing that Coby had been shot.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/michigan-family-sues-neighbor-after-6-year-old-shot-while-picking-up-his-bike/ar-AAQ6Yp1?ocid=msedgntp

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Reply neighbor shot kid because he was angry about bikes left on sidewalk in front of home. (Original post)
Demovictory9 Oct 2021 OP
SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #1
twin_ghost Oct 2021 #2
stillcool Oct 2021 #3
sarisataka Oct 2021 #4
marble falls Oct 2021 #5
Caliman73 Oct 2021 #6
Sancho Oct 2021 #7
Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #14
DemocraticPatriot Oct 2021 #16
Iris Oct 2021 #8
Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #13
Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2021 #9
hunter Oct 2021 #11
Demobrat Oct 2021 #12
Tribetime Oct 2021 #10
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #15

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:08 PM

1. $10,000 Bond

That's "accountability" in the pathetic country known as America.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:10 PM

2. The police do not set bail. It is set in court by a judge or by statute.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:18 PM

3. Damn. serious anger management issues

surprised the cops didn't arrest the little boy for pissing the guy off.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:19 PM

4. They can't really hold a suspect

Who posts bond. Although I don't believe the police set the bond amount, the Court does that.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:38 PM

5. The old man was standing his ground. We just don't know if that 6 year was strapped or not...

We have to do something about this crazy need to be armed.

I believe I've read that one of the highest causes of death of children under 12 is by firearms.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:25 PM

6. Once again, calling into question the cash bail/bond system.

Poor people in on an ounce of weed spend months in jail waiting on their trial, but people with money walk around free after committing actual, dangerous offenses.

In California, we had an amendment up in the last election or maybe 2018 to go to a "community safety" evaluation scheme for bail. While that system is also not ideal as the racism baked into the legal system (go CRT) would likely keep disproportionately affecting minorities, at least it actually sets a criteria for who should remain in jail awaiting trial and who should be able to be in the community, instead of, "This guy has money, or a house, or something he can put up for collateral. This guy doesn't" it doesn't matter that one guy has unpaid parking tickets and the other tried to poison a towns water supply. The guy with money walks, the guy without stays in jail.

This man is a direct danger to his neighbors and the community. He shot through his goddamned window, with the intent to harm children. I can only hope that all of his firearms and any other potentially deadly weapons were confiscated, but still, the guy is a menace.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 08:41 PM

7. People Control, Not Gun Control


This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

Widely acclaimed at the time of its publication, the life story of the most controversial, volatile, misunderstood provision of the Bill of Rights.

At a time of increasing gun violence in America, Waldman’s book provoked a wide range of discussion. This book looks at history to provide some surprising, illuminating answers.

The Amendment was written to calm public fear that the new national government would crush the state militias made up of all (white) adult men—who were required to own a gun to serve. Waldman recounts the raucous public debate that has surrounded the amendment from its inception to the present. As the country spread to the Western frontier, violence spread too. But through it all, gun control was abundant. In the twentieth century, with Prohibition and gangsterism, the first federal control laws were passed. In all four separate times the Supreme Court ruled against a constitutional right to own a gun.

The present debate picked up in the 1970s—part of a backlash to the liberal 1960s and a resurgence of libertarianism. A newly radicalized NRA entered the campaign to oppose gun control and elevate the status of an obscure constitutional provision. In 2008, in a case that reached the Court after a focused drive by conservative lawyers, the US Supreme Court ruled for the first time that the Constitution protects an individual right to gun ownership. Famous for his theory of “originalism,” Justice Antonin Scalia twisted it in this instance to base his argument on contemporary conditions.

In The Second Amendment: A Biography, Michael Waldman shows that our view of the amendment is set, at each stage, not by a pristine constitutional text, but by the push and pull, the rough and tumble of political advocacy and public agitation.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:09 PM

14. Not unreasonable restrictions but they will never.fly in America

If Sandy hook didnt.change minds, nothing will

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Response to Sancho (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:40 AM

16. OMGOMG!!! That's Communist-Socialist-Nazi-FASCISM!!!!

/ snark


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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 08:42 PM

8. I am horrified by this headline and the incident but am I the only one

who wonders if this man has been a victim of harassment by his neighbors?

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Response to Iris (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:06 PM

13. From the video..i wonder if the crowd of kids biking right in front of his home

Was orchestrated to set him off..obviously thenadults knew he didnt like it

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 08:44 PM

9. An armed society is a polite society...

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 08:50 PM

11. I'm so damned tired of all these impolite six year olds.

That'll teach 'em.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 08:49 PM

10. Out on bond huh..We need some Charles Bronson justice

What kind of sick mf'er shoots a 6 year old

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:33 PM

15. The bond was quickly increased...

... and he was held in jail again, months ago.

He also didn't live there. He shot the child from his girlfriend's home, not previously knowing his shooting victim.

His attorney claims it was an accident from inside the home and he didn't intend to shoot anyone. Of course he'd say that, but a jury will decide.

Could face life in prison, which is appropriate if he intended to harm that little kid!

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2021/06/washtenaw-county-officials-explain-how-accused-shooter-of-6-year-old-initially-went-free.html?outputType=amp

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