House aims to pass infrastructure and social spending bills on Tuesday

[applegrove]

House aims to pass infrastructure and social spending bills on Tuesday

Alayna Treene, Andrew Solender at Axios

https://www.axios.com/house-aims-pass-infrastructure-social-spending-bill-tuesday-6d41945b-9bb6-4538-8fc6-7b527aec8591.html

"SNIP......

House Democratic leaders are telling lawmakers they plan to pass both a $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill and a $1.75 trillion social spending bill as early as Tuesday, two sources familiar with the conversations tell Axios.

Why it matters: It’s a very ambitious timeline, but leadership is eager to deliver a win to President Biden while he meets with world leaders in Europe.

* This would mark dramatic progress since the president left the country on Thursday with only a deal on a framework for his massive social spending bill, but no votes.

What we’re hearing: House leadership told the committees they have until Sunday to finish making changes to the Build Back Better bill, a leadership aide tells Axios.

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[ColinC]

1. House should go only after the senate

Otherwise there's no guarantee they will both reach the president's desk.

[brooklynite]

2. Must originate in the House

Article I, Section 7, Clause 1: All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

[triron]

5. Thanks. Did not know that.

[PoliticAverse]

6. The House can pass the reconcillation bill, then the Senate pass the bill..

then the House pass the BIF.

[ColinC]

7. Thanks! I also didn't know that!

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[Hortensis]

21. Pelosi promised in the very beginning the senate must pass the BBB

first to get the BIF out of the house.

Back in June:

"Let me be really clear on this: We will not take up a bill in the House until the Senate passes the bipartisan bill and a reconciliation bill. If there is no bipartisan bill, then we'll just go when the Senate passes a reconciliation bill,...

A congressional scholar said they can actually also pass the BBB in the house but hold it in the house and not send it to Biden until the BIF is passed by the senate.

Not her first rodeo. Back during the 2-year battle for the ACA, during which it came close to dying several times, toward the end other congressional leaders and Obama became afraid it would be killed for good and were considering accepting further substantial cuts to save at least something of it. Pelosi took a stand in the oval office and told Obama that the house would pass it in the far more comprehensive (and wonderfully crafted) form she'd been fighting for or not at all. They were all on the same team, with the same goals, and that just stiffened up commitment to passing what needed to be, and she believed could be.

[triron]

3. Hopeful sign. Hope the Senate follows suit very soon.

[PoliticAverse]

4. Headline: "on Tuesday", article: "as early as Tuesday". n/t

[doc03]

8. Then Manchin and Sinama will find something

they don't like.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

9. I've wondered if some of the timing has to do with the election

Are they slow walking to avoid affecting turnout on the R side?

[triron]

10. Seems passage would encourage democratic turnout.

[Silent3]

11. But too late for Democratic turnout in Virginia n/t

[triron]

13. Depends on whether the voters are encouraged by progress (some has already occurred).

[Silent3]

14. I always vote no matter what, but I'm not encouraged about progress yet.

Until both bills are voted on by both the House and the Senate, cynicism rules in my mind.

And while I'll be happy to get this stuff passed, which is definitely a good bit better than nothing, I'll still be royally pissed at Manchin and Sinema for watering down the much better bill we might have had.

[triron]

20. Not everyone has your cynicism (for good or ill).

[Silent3]

12. When this goes to the Senate, does BBB get voted on first?

And then the bipartisan bill?

I don't trust Manchin or Sinema unless the BBB vote comes first in the Senate.

[PoliticAverse]

15. Senate has already passed the BIF bill...

The ideal plan would be House passes BBB, Senate passes BBB, House passes BIF.

However Jayapal is indicating that if Biden gives his assurance the Senate will pass BBB the House will pass both bills before the Senate passes BBB.

[Silent3]

16. So I guess that means the House either isn't changing anything about BIF...

...or it has already been through reconciliation.

Now I understand why this is being considered a leap of faith. I don't know if I'd have that much faith myself. I trust Biden well enough, but not S&M.

[PoliticAverse]

17. Right, they already worked through their differences before the Senate passed BIF so the House will

pass it unchanged (that's the plan).

I trust Biden, but I don't trust a dangerous creature that wears an F U ring or someone that's indicated there's no reason to pass BBB this year.

The BBB bill is over 1,500 pages, what's to say someone in the Senate doesn't find something they don't like that was stuck in there. With the BIF already passed the major leverage progressives had is gone.

[Demsrule86]

18. The bipartisan bill is done in the Senate...only BBB remains.

[RussBLib]

19. again?

Let's hope they get something to pass so we can point to something positive the Dems have done. Can build on it as we go into the 2022 election year. If we could corral a few more Senate and House seats, we could revisit the stuff that got deleted from the packages this time around.