Omg, Joe Manchin is blowing up the whole dmn thing right now -

[Control-Z]

MSNBC now.

[FoxNewsSucks]

1. Had to puke a little at him

saying the "games have got to stop"

[ColinC]

4. Classic projection as always

[Walleye]

2. Watch the stock market dive on this

[Polybius]

3. Here it is, in full

[Control-Z]

9. Everything he's not going to do.

He's never seen such a thing in all his years...
Get the house to vote on the reconstruction bill.
Blah, blah fucking blah

My gawd. Our president, his president, his party's president is out of the country.

[tishaLA]

5. He wants progressives to give up leverage

so he can tell them to fuck off with the reconciliation bill.

[FoxNewsSucks]

8. Moscow Mitch will now give him a little bonus.

[FBaggins]

20. He already told them to f-off - at least in getting what they want out of it.

They never realized that they didn't have the leverage in the first place.

A realization that they should have come to in... about January.

[Act_of_Reparation]

36. I haven't been keeping a close eye on the numbers.

Can the House pass the bill without the progressives?

[FBaggins]

40. It depends

It certainly can't if the standard remains that there won't even be a vote unless the CPC says so.

If there actually is a vote? I suspect that most progressives would vote for it. So the remaining question would be how many hold out and how any Republicans decide to stick it to the CPC.

[qazplm135]

6. he knows this blows it up

he knows that this will kill the BIF because it kills any trust at all to vote for it.

We are basically back to June.

[piddyprints]

7. The thing is

that when we lose our slim majority, he will just be another tiny fish in the deplorable pond. I hope he enjoys his power now.

I've been trying to be hopeful, but that's all shot now. Sure would be nice to have just a few reasonable Republican Senators who wanted to help the country enough to make him not count.

[GemDigger]

12. Apparently he likes swimming in that dank, dense,

filthy swamp filled with that kind of politician.

[Bettie]

32. Or we work to parlay this into

Angry Democrats voting to get more in so that he is irrelevant.

I'm hoping we can do that. Anger is a big motivator for voting.

[awesomerwb1]

35. Or

He might become an independent "maverick" Senator who caucuses with Qpublicans.

Fox news Headline: "Joe Manchin: The former Democratic Senator ditches his old party to save his country"

Or something even more stupid than that.

[Walleye]

10. I wonder if Sanders' supporters think that if Bernie were president he could keep Manchin in line.

[FoxNewsSucks]

14. Hmm, sounds like Manchin is the problem

I think you're right!

[Hoyt]

11. Need to pass the Bipartisan Bill, then move on to the other. Linking the two, was a mistake.

[FoxNewsSucks]

18. Unlinking them was the mistake.

The deal was to pass both bills. Both sides agreed to vote for the other's bill containing things they didn't like.

To keep everyone in line and following up with the agreed-upon deal, their passage was linked. It should have stayed that way.

[Hoyt]

22. Sorry. The "keep everyone in line" should have been hashed out in private. Linking them was

an naïve attempt to control Congresspeople, and here we are.

I fully understand the reason they were linked, and it was a mistake. We could have passed the bipartisan bill long ago, relieving some pressure to get some of Biden's agenda enacted. Then, the BBB could have been messaged a lot better. Instead, we may lose them both and don't look very competent.

[FBaggins]

41. What "deal"?

I keep seeing people post that... and never cite any such "deal".

What there was... was a strategy on the part of progressives. What they should have done is make an actual deal before we ever heard specifics on the plan.

[PoliticAverse]

47. "Both sides agreed to vote for the other's bill containing things they didn't like."

I don't think everyone got that memo.

[FoxNewsSucks]

48. Some just don't care, well, TWO just don't care

Apparently the rest assumed that since it was a democratic deal, they wrongly assumed their fellow democrats could be trusted.

[Tribetime]

13. He just had to do it today the day before the Virginia vote

What a f****** dick

[BradAllison]

37. Joe Manchin endorsed Susan Collins

He does not give a fuck if we win any election other than his own.

[temporary311]

15. The House should should start investigations

into Epipen price gouging.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

24. Yes!

Shoulda happened months ago and publically.

Drag all the skeletons out of his closet,publically.

[Captain Zero]

33. I say remove him from all his committees.

Nt.

[FBaggins]

42. We can't

McConnel will give those seats right back to him... and add "minority" in front of all of ours.

[CentralMass]

29. Yes. It is time to to stop playing nice across the board and enforce the law

[Politicub]

16. The progressives in the house were right to use their leverage.

This is beyond clear now. It is driving Manchin bananas that he’s not the most important person in the room.

[UTUSN]

17. BLITZER: "no deal - major setback for the WH"

[theglammistress]

19. I'm exhausted

This is all just shameful. The GOP is crazy and literally rallies around nazis. Our side can't even get it together to pass a damn infrastructure deal.

It's so damn frustrating and it is no wonder regular Democrat voters are tuning out politics.

This is extra crappy on the eve of the Virginia election.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

21. I knew manchin wouldnt vote on it.

He said "entitlement mentality"

A republican talking point and destructive lying belief held by republicans.

In all honesty I think manchin might very well be a republican mole.

Republicans are evil enough to fund a repukelican in democratic clothing to create the type of shit that would harm the dems. After all they want to destroy the entire government.

Dont forget mancinis the only "dem" thats a member of ALEC. A republican think tank .

He voted with Biden,up to a point, until his agenda would make rich pigs pay ,and the poor suffer less. Then he switches position,claims he is independant..repub lite.

Also is he a dominionist?

The signs of this were there.

[sarcasmo]

23. No shocker.

[peggysue2]

25. Now we know what 'clarity' means

[Goonch]

26. BLAH.....

[PoliticAverse]

27. If you missed it you can see it here...

See it here:

[FBaggins]

44. That was just painful. Once was enough

You could tell from about ten seconds in where he was going.

[LonePirate]

28. Progressives need to hold the line and tell Manchin to go fuck himself.

[CentralMass]

30. Pretty much.

[lindysalsagal]

31. I swear they've got video of him....

that he never wants released.

[GoodRaisin]

34. Don't really know how to unpack this, except

I want to continue to hold off on the infrastructure bill until we have both bills ready and he says he is satisfied. And I normally lean toward the moderate left. But I am tired of hearing he doesn’t like this or that. If he’s going to grandstand and kill the reconciliation bill all by himself, the infrastructure bill isn’t going to help us in 2022. If that’s the case, he needs to carry the burden of being the one to torpedo both the bills. I honestly don’t think we win in 2022 without both these bills and it is sounding more than ever like we need the leverage to assure he’s in on the reconciliation bill.

I’m also tired it’s okay when Republicans blow up the debt for tax breaks for the rich and nobody says a damn thing about it not being paid for and adding to the debt, but now that we have a bill for the people we have to worry about the all important debt (when the bill is supposedly paid for!).

[FoxNewsSucks]

46. Agreed.

The BIF is little more than a standard thing they have to pass anyway.

The new spending and true beneficial things are all in the BBB, which is fully paid for. Make Manchin sink it, don't give in.

[dsc]

50. No they don't

they can let highway funding run out, and while they are at it, let defense funding run out too, oh and anything at all that is spent in WV, let that run out too.

[BradAllison]

38. The usual suspects will be along soon to blame Bernie and AOC and Jayapal

While chanting GO JOE!!!! (not Biden)

[Buckeyeblue]

39. Let's make him vote no

I'm over his demands

[Hassin Bin Sober]

43. He's a REAL Democrat!

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[UTUSN]

45. Translation: "up or down" in MANCHIN-speak means "down."

[jalan48]

49. Corporate Democrat doing the corporate thing.

[Texaswitchy]

51. He is getting paid.

A lot,