Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:12 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
Manchin calls Biden's $1.75 trillion spending proposal a "shell game"Key Democratic Senator Joe Manchin is demanding more time to get "clarity" on the economic impact of the social spending package put forward by President Biden and other Democrats. In remarks to reporters on Monday, Manchin blasted House progressives for holding the bipartisan infrastructure bill hostage.
Last week before leaving for Europe, President Biden announced a $1.75 trillion social-spending framework, trimmed down from the original $3.5 trillion. But Manchin made it clear Monday he still isn't comfortable with the framework in its current state, and the Senate can't pass the legislation without him. Democrats had hoped to possibly vote on both the infrastructure and the reconciliation bill this week, but Manchin's comments indicated that might not be possible. "As more of the real details outlined in the basic framework are released, what I see are shell games, budget gimmicks that make the real cost of the so-called $1.75 trillion bill estimated to be almost twice that amount, if the full time is run out, if you extended it permanently," Manchin told reporters Monday afternoon. "And that we haven't even spoken about. This is a recipe for economic crisis." Manchin, who has all along expressed concerns over spending, increasing the debt, and inflation, reiterated those concerns Monday. He took no questions. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manchin-calls-bidens-24175-trillion-spending-proposal-a-shell-game/ar-AAQccd2?ocid=uxbndlbing ![]()
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bluewater | Nov 2021 | OP |
msongs | Nov 2021 | #1 | |
leftstreet | Nov 2021 | #2 | |
Celerity | Nov 2021 | #3 | |
bluewater | Nov 2021 | #7 | |
madaboutharry | Nov 2021 | #4 | |
Xolodno | Nov 2021 | #5 | |
Doodley | Nov 2021 | #6 | |
CentralMass | Nov 2021 | #8 | |
Funtatlaguy | Nov 2021 | #9 | |
bluewater | Nov 2021 | #11 | |
rockfordfile | Nov 2021 | #10 | |
Docreed2003 | Nov 2021 | #12 | |
hamsterjill | Nov 2021 | #13 | |
Docreed2003 | Nov 2021 | #14 | |
Fiendish Thingy | Nov 2021 | #15 | |
myohmy2 | Nov 2021 | #16 |
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:12 PM
msongs (65,549 posts)
1. shell turtles mcconnell nt
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:13 PM
leftstreet (34,966 posts)
2. But the extra $10billion to the military isn't an econ crisis
okay then
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Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:14 PM
Celerity (36,894 posts)
3. he isn't even hiding the RW Rethug talking points anymore
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Response to Celerity (Reply #3)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:22 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
7. He's publicly BASHING the President's agenda and yet some people still defend his behavior.
And you are absolutely correct, he's doing it with some of the worse rightwing talking points imaginable.
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Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:18 PM
madaboutharry (38,743 posts)
4. What is wrong with this guy?
This multi-millionaire living a life of luxury and privilege and representing some of the poorest Americans seeks to deny moving the country towards a place of fairness and decency. He should be renamed Senator Marie Antoinette.
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Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:18 PM
Xolodno (5,754 posts)
5. Time to turn the tables on him and call his bluff.
Shelve the BBB for now and tell him the EPA is coming for coal in a hard way. Also make it known to West Virginia they could have had a lot more jobs, but Manchin killed it.
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Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:18 PM
Doodley (8,820 posts)
6. Is he trying to damage Biden to get Trump re-elected?
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:27 PM
CentralMass (14,805 posts)
8. That is just a blatant slap to Biden.
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:35 PM
Funtatlaguy (10,543 posts)
9. So is BBB over? Why do this while Biden is overseas.
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #9)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:42 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
11. Honestly, I have no idea...
This extremely negative tone in a public announcement accomplished what?
Besides damaging President Biden's standing, nothing I can see... ![]() |
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:37 PM
rockfordfile (8,597 posts)
10. Yeah Manchin is being a pos against Americans
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:53 PM
Docreed2003 (15,835 posts)
12. Someone just needs to tell him to write the freaking bill himself
These nonsense games of appeasement with him are just infuriating. You don't like it Joe? Then you write a damn bill that will pass. Enough already. Why is it that everyone else has to give up something but he has to compromise nothing? It's ridiculous.
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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #12)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:59 PM
hamsterjill (15,052 posts)
13. He doesn't want a bill to pass.
His sole purpose is to sabotage. Isn’t that clear? It’s not about giving him concessions. When the Dems have caved and given him what he wants, he just moves the goal post.
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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #13)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:01 PM
Docreed2003 (15,835 posts)
14. Oh I get it...that's why it's so infuriating.
He doesn't want to take ownership over the fact he doesn't want anything to pass. He wants to provide some illusion of "statesmanship", while simultaneously torpedoing the effort
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Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:32 PM
Fiendish Thingy (12,776 posts)
15. Fuck Joe Manchin, thank goodness for Jayapal and the CPC blocking the vote on the BIF
If it had passed last week, the BBB would be DOA.
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Response to bluewater (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:40 PM
myohmy2 (3,034 posts)
16. well, how about that...
...our 'moderate' is becoming more conservative...
...we're not fucking Joe, he's fucking Joe... ...maybe he should consider challenging trump in the primary... ...the magnificent manchin... ![]() |