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Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:12 PM

Manchin calls Biden's $1.75 trillion spending proposal a "shell game"

Key Democratic Senator Joe Manchin is demanding more time to get "clarity" on the economic impact of the social spending package put forward by President Biden and other Democrats. In remarks to reporters on Monday, Manchin blasted House progressives for holding the bipartisan infrastructure bill hostage.

Last week before leaving for Europe, President Biden announced a $1.75 trillion social-spending framework, trimmed down from the original $3.5 trillion. But Manchin made it clear Monday he still isn't comfortable with the framework in its current state, and the Senate can't pass the legislation without him. Democrats had hoped to possibly vote on both the infrastructure and the reconciliation bill this week, but Manchin's comments indicated that might not be possible.

"As more of the real details outlined in the basic framework are released, what I see are shell games, budget gimmicks that make the real cost of the so-called $1.75 trillion bill estimated to be almost twice that amount, if the full time is run out, if you extended it permanently," Manchin told reporters Monday afternoon. "And that we haven't even spoken about. This is a recipe for economic crisis."

Manchin, who has all along expressed concerns over spending, increasing the debt, and inflation, reiterated those concerns Monday. He took no questions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manchin-calls-bidens-24175-trillion-spending-proposal-a-shell-game/ar-AAQccd2?ocid=uxbndlbing


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Reply Manchin calls Biden's $1.75 trillion spending proposal a "shell game" (Original post)
bluewater Nov 2021 OP
msongs Nov 2021 #1
leftstreet Nov 2021 #2
Celerity Nov 2021 #3
bluewater Nov 2021 #7
madaboutharry Nov 2021 #4
Xolodno Nov 2021 #5
Doodley Nov 2021 #6
CentralMass Nov 2021 #8
Funtatlaguy Nov 2021 #9
bluewater Nov 2021 #11
rockfordfile Nov 2021 #10
Docreed2003 Nov 2021 #12
hamsterjill Nov 2021 #13
Docreed2003 Nov 2021 #14
Fiendish Thingy Nov 2021 #15
myohmy2 Nov 2021 #16

Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:12 PM

1. shell turtles mcconnell nt

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:13 PM

2. But the extra $10billion to the military isn't an econ crisis

okay then

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:14 PM

3. he isn't even hiding the RW Rethug talking points anymore

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Response to Celerity (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:22 PM

7. He's publicly BASHING the President's agenda and yet some people still defend his behavior.

And you are absolutely correct, he's doing it with some of the worse rightwing talking points imaginable.



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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:18 PM

4. What is wrong with this guy?

This multi-millionaire living a life of luxury and privilege and representing some of the poorest Americans seeks to deny moving the country towards a place of fairness and decency. He should be renamed Senator Marie Antoinette.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:18 PM

5. Time to turn the tables on him and call his bluff.

Shelve the BBB for now and tell him the EPA is coming for coal in a hard way. Also make it known to West Virginia they could have had a lot more jobs, but Manchin killed it.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:18 PM

6. Is he trying to damage Biden to get Trump re-elected?

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:27 PM

8. That is just a blatant slap to Biden.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:35 PM

9. So is BBB over? Why do this while Biden is overseas.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:42 PM

11. Honestly, I have no idea...

This extremely negative tone in a public announcement accomplished what?

Besides damaging President Biden's standing, nothing I can see...



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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:37 PM

10. Yeah Manchin is being a pos against Americans

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:53 PM

12. Someone just needs to tell him to write the freaking bill himself

These nonsense games of appeasement with him are just infuriating. You don't like it Joe? Then you write a damn bill that will pass. Enough already. Why is it that everyone else has to give up something but he has to compromise nothing? It's ridiculous.

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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:59 PM

13. He doesn't want a bill to pass.

His sole purpose is to sabotage. Isnít that clear? Itís not about giving him concessions. When the Dems have caved and given him what he wants, he just moves the goal post.

Heís got an agenda.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:01 PM

14. Oh I get it...that's why it's so infuriating.

He doesn't want to take ownership over the fact he doesn't want anything to pass. He wants to provide some illusion of "statesmanship", while simultaneously torpedoing the effort

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:32 PM

15. Fuck Joe Manchin, thank goodness for Jayapal and the CPC blocking the vote on the BIF

If it had passed last week, the BBB would be DOA.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 07:40 PM

16. well, how about that...

...our 'moderate' is becoming more conservative...

...we're not fucking Joe, he's fucking Joe...

...maybe he should consider challenging trump in the primary...

...the magnificent manchin...

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