Tue Nov 2, 2021, 02:53 PM
Leave Joe Manchin ALONE!
This is the thread to voice how unfairly harsh people have been on Senator Joe Manchin.
Feel free to show your support for Senator Manchin. I'll start. Senator Manchin has a 100% record on supporting President Biden's agenda in Congress, to date. And this past month he has saved the country by stopping the passage of expanded social safety net programs that are just too expensive. 
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 Leave Joe Manchin ALONE! (Original post) |
bluewater | Nov 2021 | OP |
| Post removed | Nov 2021 | #1 | |
| MontanaMama | Nov 2021 | #3 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #4 | |
| Celerity | Nov 2021 | #31 | |
| George II | Nov 2021 | #17 | |
| Fiendish Thingy | Nov 2021 | #56 | |
| George II | Nov 2021 | #62 | |
| Fiendish Thingy | Nov 2021 | #80 | |
| George II | Nov 2021 | #81 | |
| Javaman | Nov 2021 | #47 | |
| doc03 | Nov 2021 | #2 | |
| Fiendish Thingy | Nov 2021 | #6 | |
| FoxNewsSucks | Nov 2021 | #14 | |
| Celerity | Nov 2021 | #32 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #33 | |
| choie | Nov 2021 | #75 | |
| BlueJac | Nov 2021 | #5 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #68 | |
| CentralMass | Nov 2021 | #7 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #9 | |
| Ani Yun Wiya | Nov 2021 | #8 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #11 | |
| Wounded Bear | Nov 2021 | #10 | |
| JohnnyRingo | Nov 2021 | #12 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #15 | |
| KT2000 | Nov 2021 | #13 | |
| lagomorph777 | Nov 2021 | #59 | |
| FoxNewsSucks | Nov 2021 | #16 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #19 | |
| Post removed | Nov 2021 | #22 | |
| Celerity | Nov 2021 | #34 | |
| George II | Nov 2021 | #46 | |
| Celerity | Nov 2021 | #58 | |
| George II | Nov 2021 | #65 | |
| Celerity | Nov 2021 | #67 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #69 | |
| George II | Nov 2021 | #73 | |
| wellst0nev0ter | Nov 2021 | #78 | |
| George II | Nov 2021 | #79 | |
| wellst0nev0ter | Nov 2021 | #83 | |
| Celerity | Nov 2021 | #85 | |
| wellst0nev0ter | Nov 2021 | #86 | |
| Celerity | Nov 2021 | #84 | |
| lagomorph777 | Nov 2021 | #18 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #21 | |
| Celerity | Nov 2021 | #70 | |
| Torchlight | Nov 2021 | #20 | |
| NurseJackie | Nov 2021 | #23 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #24 | |
| qazplm135 | Nov 2021 | #25 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #26 | |
| NurseJackie | Nov 2021 | #35 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #36 | |
| NurseJackie | Nov 2021 | #37 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #40 | |
| NurseJackie | Nov 2021 | #43 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #45 | |
| NurseJackie | Nov 2021 | #50 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #53 | |
| NurseJackie | Nov 2021 | #55 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #60 | |
| NurseJackie | Nov 2021 | #61 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #63 | |
| NurseJackie | Nov 2021 | #64 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #82 | |
| George II | Nov 2021 | #66 | |
| qazplm135 | Nov 2021 | #38 | |
| NurseJackie | Nov 2021 | #41 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #44 | |
| NurseJackie | Nov 2021 | #51 | |
| qazplm135 | Nov 2021 | #49 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #54 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #42 | |
| Celerity | Nov 2021 | #87 | |
| George II | Nov 2021 | #29 | |
| qazplm135 | Nov 2021 | #39 | |
| George II | Nov 2021 | #48 | |
| qazplm135 | Nov 2021 | #52 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #57 | |
| George II | Nov 2021 | #74 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #76 | |
| TheRealNorth | Nov 2021 | #27 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #30 | |
| TheRealNorth | Nov 2021 | #88 | |
| Brainfodder | Nov 2021 | #28 | |
| 48656c6c6f20 | Nov 2021 | #71 | |
| bluewater | Nov 2021 | #72 | |
| Meowmee | Nov 2021 | #77 |
Response to Post removed (Reply #1)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 02:57 PM
MontanaMama (22,024 posts)
3. Wish I could rec your post.
Response to Post removed (Reply #1)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:16 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
17. There have been 453 votes in the Senate since the term began in January.
Response to George II (Reply #17)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:43 PM
Fiendish Thingy (12,806 posts)
56. How many votes on legislation? (Not counting procedural votes) nt
Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #56)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:56 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
62. I don't know. You can find them on the internet, I'm not poring over 453 votes.
Response to George II (Reply #62)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 07:08 PM
Fiendish Thingy (12,806 posts)
80. I believe the answer is two, possibly three
Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #80)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 07:21 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
81. Try a LOT more than two or three. If three were the case, everyone's ratings would be....
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 02:56 PM
doc03 (33,295 posts)
2. Let's go Manchin. nt
Response to doc03 (Reply #2)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 02:59 PM
Fiendish Thingy (12,806 posts)
6. I see what you did there. Nt
Response to doc03 (Reply #2)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:13 PM
FoxNewsSucks (10,162 posts)
14. hee hee hee hee
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Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 02:58 PM
BlueJac (7,838 posts)
5. Just can't do that.
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:00 PM
CentralMass (14,837 posts)
7. To quote Manchin. "I'm sorry but I just can't do it. "
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:00 PM
Ani Yun Wiya (793 posts)
8. Give JM a chance
Response to Ani Yun Wiya (Reply #8)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:09 PM
11. Manchin's stance on the environment has nothing to do with his coal company.
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Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:02 PM
Wounded Bear (56,078 posts)
10. Reminds me of this (anybody good at Photoshop?)...
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Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:10 PM
JohnnyRingo (17,859 posts)
12. Although I get the sarcasm....
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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #12)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:13 PM
15. Seriously, I honestly thought Manchin would be satisfied with all the concessions
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that President Biden has already made in trying to win Manchin's support for the Build Back Better reconciliation bill.
I truly believed that by now Manchin would publicly state he supports the President's latest framework. But he has not. It's inexplicable.  |
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:11 PM
KT2000 (20,360 posts)
13. Did Manchin enjoy the trump years
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:15 PM
FoxNewsSucks (10,162 posts)
16. 100% record?
Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #16)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:18 PM
19. Nope, Manchin has a 100% voting record supporting Biden, to date.
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Manchin supporters that feel people have been too harsh on him this past month point to the 538 article showing that.
To be fair, it's a short record this early in Biden's presidency, but it is 100%.  |
Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #16)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:56 PM
Celerity (36,977 posts)
34. Neena Tanden's nomination was withdrawn after Manchin publicly went on the record and said No
Response to Celerity (Reply #34)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:20 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
46. Manchin wasn't the first one to balk at Tanden's nomination, it was the Committee chairman....
Response to George II (Reply #46)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:51 PM
Celerity (36,977 posts)
58. Sander's never came out and said nope, no way, like Manchin did. Manchin blocked Neera Tanden for
Response to Celerity (Reply #58)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:04 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
65. She asked that the nomination be withdrawn before the Budget Committee voted. If there was no....
Response to George II (Reply #65)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:25 PM
Celerity (36,977 posts)
67. she would not have been confirmed because Manchin said NO, and no Rethug was coming to her aid.
Response to Celerity (Reply #67)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:42 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
73. Here's a NYT article about the pushback she got. Senator Manchin's name isn't even mentioned in it:
Response to wellst0nev0ter (Reply #78)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 06:48 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
79. You have to read the articles.
Response to wellst0nev0ter (Reply #83)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 11:29 PM
Celerity (36,977 posts)
85. see post 84, the poster only posted articles from 9 days BEFORE Manchin came out & publicly said No
Response to George II (Reply #73)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 11:25 PM
Celerity (36,977 posts)
84. all your articles are from 9 days BEFORE Manchin publicly announced he was a NO on Tanden
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:16 PM
18. He hasn't voted against everything, because he blocks it before the vote.
Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #18)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:21 PM
21. Exactly, like blocking the major Build Back Better reconciliation bill
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and preventing it from being voted on in the Senate would keep Senator Manchin's 100% voting record intact.
But hey, it is what it is and it would be cruel if anyone pointed out how meaningless that statistic is after watching the events of this past month.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #18)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:31 PM
Celerity (36,977 posts)
70. Oh, they understand just fine. nt
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:18 PM
20. Old King Coal is a merry old soul.
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:33 PM
23. I'm certainly glad he's a Democrat instead of Republican.
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Count your blessings. We're damned lucky to have him.
All the complaining and hand-wringing won't change a single thing about him.  |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #23)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:38 PM
24. I prefer to believe Senator Manchin is reachable if enough Democrats call him out
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and insist he do the right thing and support president Biden's Build Back Better framework.
No one is irredeemable.  |
Response to qazplm135 (Reply #25)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:46 PM
26. But is not supporting half of President Biden's major agenda really a bad thing?
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Response to bluewater (Reply #26)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:57 PM
35. Run him out and put a Republican in there... see what happens in a 51/49 Senate.
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26. But is not supporting half of President Biden's major agenda really a bad thing? The alternative is worse. Apparently many want to chase him out and put a Republican in there... just to see what happens in a 51/49 Senate.
Who would you like to replace him with? He's not going to change, so count your blessings. I'm glad he's one of ours and not one of theirs. |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #35)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:00 PM
36. People want to help Manchin change his views and start SUPPORTING the Build Back Better framework.
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Again, I think if enough Democrats tell Senator Manchin that he is being wrongheaded in opposing the social safety net programs that he CAN change his views and start supporting the President Biden's Build Back Better framework.
No one is irredeemable. |
Response to bluewater (Reply #36)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:03 PM
37. This isn't working. The smears and attacks aren't how minds are changed.
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #37)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:08 PM
40. I don't think that Senator Manchin spends much time reading DU.
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But I could be wrong.
In any case MANY people here on DU have made thoughtful and valid points detailing why senator Manchin is wrong in opposing President Biden's Build Back Better framework. Again, I hope his fellow Democratic Senators are explaining this to Senator Manchin also. I personally believe that the warranted criticism IS having a positive effect on Senator Manchin, his demeanor in recent press appearances seems less glib and more thoughtful. Perhaps when President Biden returns from Europe, he can have another one-on-one discussion with Senator Manchin in the White House and finally get thru to him. No one is unreachable. No one is irredeemable. |
Response to bluewater (Reply #40)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:12 PM
43. Of course he doesn't read DU. That's why all this hair-on-fire ranting is so silly...
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #43)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:19 PM
45. Then you weren't talking about DU when you said "it just hardened Manchin and he dug-in his heels"?
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OK.
Of course he doesn't read DU. That's why all this hair-on-fire ranting is so silly...
... and a waste of time. But, y'all go ahead and get it out of your systems. Thanks for participating in this thread then in any case, I respect your right to express your opinions even though I disagree with them. |
Response to bluewater (Reply #45)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:31 PM
50. Lulz.
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Then you weren't talking about DU when you said "it just hardened Manchin and he dug-in his heels"? Lulz. Was there any confusion when I said:
As we've seen from another politician's public harassment, it just hardened Manchin and he dug-in his heels. Games, games, games. Ridiculous. You know exactly what I said, who I was referring to, and what I meant. Encouraging this type of harassment serves no good purpose. Thanks for participating in this thread then in any case, Please. Spare me.
I respect your right to express your opinions even though I disagree with them. Oh, brother.  |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #55)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:52 PM
60. Every post is appreciated.
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They all bump the thread.
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Response to bluewater (Reply #60)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:55 PM
61. Okay.
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They all bump the thread. But they do little else. |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #61)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:56 PM
63. On a discussion forum, sometimes a little bump is all you need.
I'll wait a little longer making my next response to save the bump for when this thread goes lower in the recent posts. I don't wish anyone to feel ignored! |
Response to bluewater (Reply #45)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:08 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
66. Did you watch his statement yesterday?
Response to qazplm135 (Reply #38)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:10 PM
41. Apparently the smears and insults aren't working. What now?
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None of that makes him immune to criticism. "Criticism."
People don't want to replace him with a republican, I've seen it right here on DU. Expressions abound that he may as well go ahead and declare he's a Republican. And how he's an "embarrassment to Democrats" he should be kicked out, blah-blah-blah. Silly venting.
You're pushing a strawman. No I'm not. Damage him enough... kneecap and bloody him enough... and WV-ians will choose a Republican instead of him next time. Or, maybe he'll decide to retire... and then WV will definitely elect a Republican.
Go ahead, get it out of your systems... all the attacks will make ZERO difference in outcome and the chances that this emotionally-driven tactic will backfire continue to grow.  |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #41)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:15 PM
44. I think you Are selling Senator Manchin short, he IS capable of accepting criticism and can change.
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I hope that President Biden invites Senator Manchin to the White House again and stresses how important the Build Back Better framework is to helping hard working families in West Virginia and the country at large.
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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #38)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:12 PM
42. "People don't want to replace him with a republican, they'd just like him to stop acting like one"
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At least to the point of accepting all the concessions President Biden has already made and to FINALLY publicly support the President's Build Back Better framework.
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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #38)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 11:48 PM
Celerity (36,977 posts)
87. +1
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People don't want to replace him with a republican, they'd just like him to stop acting like one.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #23)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:49 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
29. In most of these threads bashing Manchin I've asked "who do you suggest replace him?"....
Response to qazplm135 (Reply #39)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:27 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
48. Because MOST of the comments I've responded to in the last week or so claimed:
Response to qazplm135 (Reply #52)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:47 PM
57. Taking a thread off on a tangent is a well know rhetorical device.
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It's often used when people feel uncomfortable discussing the contents of the thread's original post.
But of course, you knew that.
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Response to bluewater (Reply #57)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:48 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
74. The contents of the thread's original post? You said people should leave Manchin alone. I agree....
Response to George II (Reply #74)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 06:01 PM
76. "I agree with everything you typed in your OP." Good lord, I hope NOT! lol
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And this past month he has saved the country by stopping the passage of expanded social safety net programs that are just too expensive.
You agreed with that? That Manchin saved the country by stopping the passage of President Biden's expanded social safety net programs because they were just too expensive?
Pardon me, well, if that's your actual opinion, thanks for sharing it. Would you mind if I quote you on that going forward? Well, honestly, I would in any case, it would be part of the public record here on DU.
I mean, you DID see the emoji, right?
Hoo baby... Well, thanks for participating in the thread in any case. |
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:47 PM
27. As soon as we no longer need him to confirm judges......
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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #27)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:49 PM
30. Grammar Nazi Time: It's "kick him the the curb."
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Auto correct issue?
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Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:48 PM
28. Yeah Coal Cing is busy counting his $?
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He has enough to fill bathtubs and roll around in it, so I have heard and I saw the yacht.
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Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:33 PM
48656c6c6f20 (7,638 posts)
71. Now you've done it
Response to bluewater (Original post)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 06:11 PM
77. He made himself beholden coal interests a long time ago
