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Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 02:57 PM Nov 2021

'It's the Jews': An antisemitic tirade at an Arizona school board meeting spurs a response, debate

An antisemitic tirade at a school board meeting in suburban Phoenix last week has spurred an extensive response among local officials and Jewish leaders — some of whom say they were distressed that board members did not rebut the comment at the time.

During the public comment portion of the meeting of the Chandler Unified School District board, a woman who identified herself as Melanie Rettler spoke for over a minute about critical race theory and vaccines — topics not listed on the meeting agenda but at the center of heated public debate nationwide.

Her comment crescendoed with an antisemitic claim drenched in the language of right-wing conspiracy theories.

“Every one of these things, the deep state, the cabal, the swamp, the elite — you can’t mention it, but I will — there is one race that owns all the pharmaceutical companies and these vaccines aren’t safe, they aren’t effective and they aren’t free,” Rettler said. “You know that you’re paying for it through the increase in gas prices, the increase in food prices — you’re paying for this and it’s being taken from your money and being given to these pharmaceutical companies and if you want to bring race into this: It’s the Jews.”

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I think I have heard this song before.

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'It's the Jews': An antisemitic tirade at an Arizona school board meeting spurs a response, debate (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Nov 2021 OP
KnR Hekate Nov 2021 #1
Can we start calling them fascists now? Thomas Hurt Nov 2021 #2
Way ahead of you. Paladin Nov 2021 #7
Yeah, right after "you know who" was selected.... SergeStorms Nov 2021 #27
RIGHT !?!? uponit7771 Nov 2021 #10
Your a Rebl2 Nov 2021 #39
Maybe in this case Nazi. nt Hotler Nov 2021 #50
That's a lot of stupid packed into a single paragraph. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2021 #3
Your post header says exactly what wnylib Nov 2021 #34
Yeah. "The Horst Wessel Lied" rsdsharp Nov 2021 #4
the Horst-Wessel-Lied was the song for the first dance at her wedding Celerity Nov 2021 #32
More likely BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #53
When You think you have seen it all.....THERE IS ALWAYS MORE.... K and R your post... Stuart G Nov 2021 #5
Gah... It makes my brain hurt just trying to follow that non-sense... Ohio Joe Nov 2021 #6
Damn! Damn all bigots! MineralMan Nov 2021 #8
Anti-Semitic thinking: If vaccines aren't going to be safe or effective, Aristus Nov 2021 #9
And Jesus was a Jew. keithbvadu2 Nov 2021 #16
Which is irrational since there wasn't christians back when he was alive. MagickMuffin Nov 2021 #20
Noooooooo!!!! Traildogbob Nov 2021 #28
This food is terrible... lame54 Nov 2021 #18
Exactly! Aristus Nov 2021 #23
My car broke down, my dog ran away, and I got shingles...must be the "Jews" ashredux Nov 2021 #11
Disgusting. I don't know how soon after the meeting they responded, if at all.... George II Nov 2021 #12
"Ma'am, do you have any comments relative to the topic at hand?" maxsolomon Nov 2021 #13
Perfect. LoisB Nov 2021 #31
Fucking hell. róisín_dubh Nov 2021 #14
You want a conspiracy theory, lady? They've been putting stupid pills in the AZ water supply. Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2021 #15
It's a good thing she drinks Brawndo, then. Volaris Nov 2021 #49
What do vaccines have to do with gas/food prices? IronLionZion Nov 2021 #17
Masks are like jewish stars... lame54 Nov 2021 #19
Good one Ohioboy Nov 2021 #22
She is a veterinarian, and was pro vaccine in 2003. Jon King Nov 2021 #21
Wow? Ohioboy Nov 2021 #24
shows how incredibly effective owning the media rurallib Nov 2021 #30
so true, and for some reason, liberals in urban areas continue to disregard this threat to our Tumbulu Nov 2021 #45
Yep. progressoid Nov 2021 #51
but they are doing what they need to do to keep their jobs. rurallib Nov 2021 #52
Her Vet Clinic business received PPP Loans I see. Crap like this stunt will not help her Ziggysmom Nov 2021 #26
I wonder if her prior work with horses (see article) got her interested in Ivermectin. TheRickles Nov 2021 #29
im sick and tired of this rdking647 Nov 2021 #25
I agree Skittles Nov 2021 #46
She needs more schooling inthewind21 Nov 2021 #33
When someone sticks a collective label on a diverse group of people . . . Aussie105 Nov 2021 #35
Once the Fascism Genie is let out of the bottle, 70sEraVet Nov 2021 #36
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2021 #37
Wait..."teh Joos" hold sway over gas prices? Grokenstein Nov 2021 #38
Even with an antisemitic protest by an outside group here in Austin, Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #40
1930's Germany Riverman100 Nov 2021 #41
Sit down, Karen! n/t aggiesal Nov 2021 #42
Her last name almost sounds like that man who had the funny mustache. Efilroft Sul Nov 2021 #43
I believe the larger portion of hate crimes in 2020 against religious groups Meowmee Nov 2021 #44
You are correct. Behind the Aegis Nov 2021 #47
Yes, my father was always aware of that and told me Meowmee Nov 2021 #48
K&R for exposure. Beyond deplorable. JudyM Nov 2021 #54
 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
7. Way ahead of you.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:21 PM
Nov 2021

Ongoing fascist conquering of the U.S., with minimal blowback from the Democratic Party. Every day, more of the same. I'm losing all hope. Have a nice day.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
27. Yeah, right after "you know who" was selected....
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:02 PM
Nov 2021

it was quite apparent which direction the republican party was headed. They've become more brazen in their attitude, but the course was set even before TFG was selected.

They're fascists, and there's no other way to describe them.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,159 posts)
3. That's a lot of stupid packed into a single paragraph.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:05 PM
Nov 2021

I would love access to her mindview for about 2 minutes, just to see how such a person lives in this realty.

wnylib

(26,023 posts)
34. Your post header says exactly what
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:32 PM
Nov 2021

I thought when reading her irrational tirade. So much stupid in that paragraph that it would be hard to know where to start if refuting her face to face. I think I'd begin at the end, with the comment about Jews and then work backward. Doubtful that someone that ignorant would listen to facts, so it would be more productive to just ridicule her than try to straighten her out.

Celerity

(54,411 posts)
32. the Horst-Wessel-Lied was the song for the first dance at her wedding
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:20 PM
Nov 2021




Her maid of honour:



BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
53. More likely
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:00 PM
Nov 2021

A selection from Foghat or Molly Hatchet's catalog. Horst-Wessel-Lied is not going to be on the radar screen of someone like that. Too foreign. Too "cultural".

Ohio Joe

(21,898 posts)
6. Gah... It makes my brain hurt just trying to follow that non-sense...
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:19 PM
Nov 2021

The mixture of stupid and hate staggers the mind.

Aristus

(72,188 posts)
9. Anti-Semitic thinking: If vaccines aren't going to be safe or effective,
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:27 PM
Nov 2021

we should at least get them for free.

Jesus, I just don't even know where to begin...

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
16. And Jesus was a Jew.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:24 PM
Nov 2021

And Jesus was a Jew.

Died an observant Jew.

Many Christians (want to) believe that Jesus was a Christian.

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
20. Which is irrational since there wasn't christians back when he was alive.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:30 PM
Nov 2021


They are delusional.


Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
28. Noooooooo!!!!
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:06 PM
Nov 2021

Jesus was a white American. God’s genetic make up dominated the Virgin baby incubator. That proves God is a White American. None of her Jewishness got on Jesus. All the paintings prove it. Period. And Mary did not even get the slightest romance from it all. Poor Joseph had to explain it all to his bros. All in the book.

ashredux

(2,928 posts)
11. My car broke down, my dog ran away, and I got shingles...must be the "Jews"
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:01 PM
Nov 2021

Face it folks…1/3 of our citizens are just plain STUPID!

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. Disgusting. I don't know how soon after the meeting they responded, if at all....
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:09 PM
Nov 2021

...but it's general policy to NOT respond to comments from the public at meetings like that. What the School Board President said afterward was about as far as she could have gone. However, what she could have done was gavel her down and end her comments, but it looks like that was a last minute thing blurted after she finished the rest of her tirade.

I've been on boards/commissions in our area for a collective 19 years, we're told to not respond to outbursts like that, it only encourages more.

I do hope there were official comments AFTER the meeting and that everyone condemned that horrible display.

However, when we have a member of congress making comments like forest fires are caused by Jewish lasers, it only emboldens these nut jobs to make outbursts like that.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
13. "Ma'am, do you have any comments relative to the topic at hand?"
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:09 PM
Nov 2021

"If not, thank you for your participation. Next!"

róisín_dubh

(12,338 posts)
14. Fucking hell.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:11 PM
Nov 2021

This is going to end so badly. I am a white woman and will most likely not be a target for this abhorrent behaviour (though I am a professor who teaches whatever their version of CRT is...) But I am terrified for my friends and family who cannot hide their identities easily and who must walk around, every day, knowing there are people who spew this vile hatred based on pure, age old racism and lunacy. How do we make this shit stop?

IronLionZion

(51,271 posts)
17. What do vaccines have to do with gas/food prices?
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:24 PM
Nov 2021

And how do Jews figure into all of this? She thinks Pfizer, Moderna, J&J and somehow run by Jews?

The board should have shut down blatant hate speech. I don't think it's protected by the first amendment the way people assume it is. Maybe it is inciting violence or something.

Ohioboy

(3,893 posts)
22. Good one
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:45 PM
Nov 2021

That logic is right up there with the idea that Democrats staged Jan 6th. I guess it was so they could keep Joe Biden from being certified....

Ohioboy

(3,893 posts)
24. Wow?
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:50 PM
Nov 2021

The phenomenon of people who used to have it together only to later go MAGA fascinates and scares me.

I know people who this has happened to. I have family members that used to make sense. Now they support every wacky idea that makes its way on to right wing media.

rurallib

(64,688 posts)
30. shows how incredibly effective owning the media
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:08 PM
Nov 2021

and blasting 24 hour hate from radio, TV, Facebook (oh I mean META) billboards and any other outlet is, doesn't it?

Our leaders believe we can win with truth and ideas, but nothing beats the media filled with hate.

Propaganda is powerful. The medium is the message.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
45. so true, and for some reason, liberals in urban areas continue to disregard this threat to our
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 06:26 PM
Nov 2021

civilization. and Democracy.

I have given up, actually.

rurallib

(64,688 posts)
52. but they are doing what they need to do to keep their jobs.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:52 AM
Nov 2021

Not a lot of heroes at the reporter level

Ziggysmom

(4,123 posts)
26. Her Vet Clinic business received PPP Loans I see. Crap like this stunt will not help her
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:01 PM
Nov 2021

business. What a disgusting, hateful POS.

TheRickles

(3,386 posts)
29. I wonder if her prior work with horses (see article) got her interested in Ivermectin.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:06 PM
Nov 2021

To be fair, I have no idea whether she supports Ivermectin to treat Covid, but it wouldn't be a stretch, given these other views.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
25. im sick and tired of this
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:50 PM
Nov 2021

in austin they tried to burn a synagogue down...

as far as im concerned these people need to be dealt with immediately. no more tip toeing around the bush...

If im ever somewhere that one of these idiots starts spouting off im going to need my wife to bail me out


Skittles

(171,718 posts)
46. I agree
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 07:24 PM
Nov 2021

and I SOOOO fucking tired of being I told we need to try to "understand" these people - we understand them all too well, which is why we DESPISE them.

Aussie105

(7,927 posts)
35. When someone sticks a collective label on a diverse group of people . . .
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:33 PM
Nov 2021

you know they are full of BS. And about to come out with something negative.

Too wide a brush to do so, but great if you are about to blame them for something.

But we do the same here, all Republicans are evil, right? Politicians, your near neigbours, your relatives, young and old, white or not, male or female, straight or gay, if they are Republicans, they are evil.

Go on, admit it, we all do it.

Something to be aware of, and to try stop doing it.

Grokenstein

(6,357 posts)
38. Wait..."teh Joos" hold sway over gas prices?
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:39 PM
Nov 2021

I thought the POTUS did that? At least, when the POTUS is a Democrat? /s

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
40. Even with an antisemitic protest by an outside group here in Austin,
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:43 PM
Nov 2021

and a fire set at a local synagogue, some people on Nextdoor are claiming that Jewish George Soros is trying to promote crime in Austin by donating money to lobby against Prop A, which requires funding 2 police officers for every 1,000 residents, thus making it likely that other programs and even fire safety will b cut if it passes. The arguments for passing Prop A could have come straight from the Fox fabrication machine.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
44. I believe the larger portion of hate crimes in 2020 against religious groups
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 06:02 PM
Nov 2021

are anti semitic crimes and this is all too familiar.

Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
47. You are correct.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:29 AM
Nov 2021

Jews are always the highest group of targets in the hate crimes stats for religion. One thing that many talk about is the rise in anti-Muslim hate after 9-11, something like 410%, yet in that same year, they still never passed the level of crimes against Jews, and of course, the next year the Islamophobic numbers feel dramatically, not the anti-Semitism numbers. When the numbers are pulled out and the percentages are thrown about, the number one group of people victimized by hate crimes, are African-Americans, followed by Jews, and then by gay men.

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