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Jilly_in_VA

(9,966 posts)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:34 PM Nov 2021

Who is dying of Covid? People who are younger, white and Southern, according to latest numbers

Younger, Southern, rural and white.

Those are increasingly the kinds of people who are dying of Covid-19, as the demographics of those hit hardest by the coronavirus have shifted since the pandemic first hit the United States. The country’s most recent, devastating Covid wave, fueled by the highly contagious delta variant, showed the strength of the virus even in the face of mounting vaccinations, with more than 100,000 deaths reported in the past three months.

Many of those deaths were reported in places — and in populations — that had been largely spared the worst effects of the disease until now.

An NBC News analysis of what changed from the first 100,000 Covid deaths in the U.S. to the most recent 100,000 deaths shows key geographic and demographic shifts in the evolution of the pandemic. Covid hot spots moved from densely populated cities concentrated in the Northeast and on the West Coast to Southern states and more rural regions. The disease also shifted from disproportionately affecting older adults and people with underlying conditions into a more indiscriminate killer among those who were unvaccinated.

They are deaths that were largely preventable.

“This has become a disease of the unimmunized,” said Dr. James Conway, a pediatric infectious disease specialist at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and associate director for health sciences at the school’s Global Health Institute.

https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/new-faces-of-covid-deaths/index.html

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Who is dying of Covid? People who are younger, white and Southern, according to latest numbers (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Nov 2021 OP
Less future Assolini voters. kimbutgar Nov 2021 #1
Agreed Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #2
Exactly. Cobalt Violet Nov 2021 #7
71 is the new 21 former9thward Nov 2021 #14
Good, Now What Are The Political Stats? SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #3
I've heard it is 5:1 DBoon Nov 2021 #6
I'll Take It SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #9
A lot of things are posted without any cites. former9thward Nov 2021 #12
Here it is DBoon Nov 2021 #17
And where did he get the evidence to back up that tweet? former9thward Nov 2021 #18
The Snopes article contradicts both your points DBoon Nov 2021 #20
Let's see the cites to the "other public sources" former9thward Nov 2021 #23
Read the link in the OP former9thward Nov 2021 #13
Well, that's basically good news. lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #4
Look at the link. former9thward Nov 2021 #11
If you visit the Herman Cain Award Subreddit Best_man23 Nov 2021 #5
... cilla4progress Nov 2021 #8
The actual numbers are buried deep in the OP's link. former9thward Nov 2021 #10
The narrative and the statistics are very far apart Sympthsical Nov 2021 #16
Only 32% of Covid deaths in the latest share are white people Sympthsical Nov 2021 #15
This is a fascinating data analysis genxlib Nov 2021 #19
In our ER in southern NH, we are seeing more Covid than ever elias7 Nov 2021 #21
K&R! nt Carlitos Brigante Nov 2021 #22
It's the unvaccinated - they're the ones who are dying FakeNoose Nov 2021 #24

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
3. Good, Now What Are The Political Stats?
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:40 PM
Nov 2021

I want to know how many more repubs are dying than Democrats. The media does not focus enough on that statistic, and I'm curious as to how skewed it really is.

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
6. I've heard it is 5:1
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:52 PM
Nov 2021

5 R to each Dem

No cite, but I believe this has been posted on DU in the last month or so.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
9. I'll Take It
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:12 PM
Nov 2021

May it continue indefinitely, as I don't see Covid EVER going away, thanks to those who will refuse the vaccine so long as they live.

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
12. A lot of things are posted without any cites.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:53 PM
Nov 2021

This analysis shows of the last 100,000 deaths 68.2% are minorities. So I doubt your "5 to 1" is correct. It is almost the reverse given standard voting patterns.

https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/new-faces-of-covid-deaths/index.html

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
17. Here it is
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:19 PM
Nov 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215807174



With the Snopes "true" evaluation https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/neil-degrasse-tyson-vax-tweet/ :

Astrophysicist, director of the Hayden Planetarium in New York, “Startalk” podcast host and occasional Twitter “intergalactic troll” Neil deGrasse Tyson on Aug. 31, 2021, penned a tweet he later deleted because he said it was “causing too many unintended Twitter fights.”

The deleted tweet compared the rate of COVID-19 deaths among “(unvaccinated) Republican voters” to Democrats.

“Right now in the USA, every ten days, more than 8,000 (unvaccinated) Republican voters are dying of COVID-19. That’s 5X the rate for Democrats,” the tweet read. The post also contained a drawing of a book titled, “How to Die Like a Medieval Peasant In Spite of Modern Medicine.”

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
18. And where did he get the evidence to back up that tweet?
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:45 PM
Nov 2021

That is why he deleted it. The numbers are in the link of the OP.

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
20. The Snopes article contradicts both your points
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 06:00 PM
Nov 2021

1. "he later deleted because he said it was “causing too many unintended Twitter fights.” Has nothing to do with his facts or conclusions being incorrect.

2. The tweet predates the OP by a couple of months so it could not possible reference it. His information is from other public sources listing death rates from Covid by vaccinated/unvaccinated and vaccination rates by party reference.

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
23. Let's see the cites to the "other public sources"
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 07:30 PM
Nov 2021

The information in the OP link is where they looked at the actual people behind the last 100,000 deaths. They determined their race, age, etc. Is their information correct or not?

Best_man23

(4,898 posts)
5. If you visit the Herman Cain Award Subreddit
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:52 PM
Nov 2021

The profiles of the "Awarded" (people who died of Covid) are almost all MAGAt poster children. As stated in the NBC article, most are younger (in their 30s and 40s), live in rural areas of deep red states like Florida, Arkansas, Texas, and Missouri, are not educated, and are almost always white.

I forgot the name of the epidemiologist (wasn't Dr. Fauci) who said in late Spring that Covid would indeed become "a disease of the unimmunized" and that Dr's prediction has become reality.

If you're not familiar with Reddit's Herman Cain Award subreddit: https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100215759445

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
10. The actual numbers are buried deep in the OP's link.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:48 PM
Nov 2021

It says of the last 100,000 people who died 32.5% were Black. That is a far outsize share given blacks are around 9% of the population. It also says Hispanics make up 22.3% of the latest 100k deaths. That is well over their 12-14% share of the population.
It says non-Hispanic whites are 32.1% of the deaths, far lower than their 58% share of the population.

It also defines "young people" as anyone 54 or younger. Now 54 is young? Regardless they made up only 8.7% of the deaths of the last 100k.

https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/new-faces-of-covid-deaths/index.html

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
16. The narrative and the statistics are very far apart
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:00 PM
Nov 2021

It's been a minute since I looked up the stats, but going through that article . . . if I had only read social media and political sites, I would've been absolutely convinced the average Covid death was some thirty or forty-something year old unvaccinated Trump yahoo.

Those stats are not that.

That headline just feels very misleading. If you just read the headline and don't look at the numbers, you'd be coming away with a much different idea than what the reality is.

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
15. Only 32% of Covid deaths in the latest share are white people
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 04:57 PM
Nov 2021

So I am really not understanding that headline at all.

Yes, the share of deaths changed, but the fact non-white populations are still overwhelmingly bearing the brunt remains the same.

10% of Covid deaths are under 55 years old. Only 1.3% are under 35 years old.

This whole article and headline seem very weird to me.

There is a narrative - because it's ideologically useful - that it's mostly Republicans getting killed off by this now because they're pretty much the only ones not getting vaccinated.

Well, here's the data.

Does that look like mostly Republicans to anyone?

genxlib

(5,526 posts)
19. This is a fascinating data analysis
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 05:53 PM
Nov 2021

I have been having a debate with a friend recently because he is on the "Florida has done great train".

Yeah that is a thing. Conservative columnists has been declaring victory because the fire went out after burning down the house.

I have been trying to explain to him that having a spike in death after you have the tools to combat the disease can in no way be considered a success. I had done some unofficial data analysis but this is far more interesting than what I had done.

It clearly shows that Florida is absolutely dead last in how much worse it is doing while New York is first. In fact, the worst 10 are red states and the best 10 are blue.

Thanks for posting.

elias7

(3,999 posts)
21. In our ER in southern NH, we are seeing more Covid than ever
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 07:01 PM
Nov 2021

For a fairly steady time now, not only are our general numbers higher than pre-Covid (since June), but for the past couple of months, our “Covid-like symptoms” chief complaint has been remarkably high, perhaps 15-20% of all patients, although many cases do not actually prove to be Covid.

Most certainly, however, our sickest Covid patients -admissions and transfers - are invariably unvaxxed. The main vector right now are schoolchildren and daycare, with kids bringing covid home to the family.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
24. It's the unvaccinated - they're the ones who are dying
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 07:39 PM
Nov 2021

This story must be told in plain words. Don't use fancy medical/scientific language.

Tell these people in words they will understand. Have a spokesperson that they'll listen to, maybe an athlete or a rock star, I don't know.

Grab their shoulders and shake them. Make them listen. It has nothing to do with freedom, nothing to do with Jesus.

In all honesty, it has nothing to do with Chump either.

If they care about their own lives, their parents, their children or families, they WILL get vaccinated.

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