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[milestogo]

1. not helpful

[rdking647]

8. mayeb not helpful but the truth

and the truth has to be told.

if you're not a hard core democrat youve seen the dems do basically squat in almost a year. point the finger anywhere you want but its results that matter and teh dems basically have none to show

[Takket]

11. sticking our heads in the sand isn't helpful either.

luckily this was only a governorship and not a House of Congress.

Next year we won't get off so easy if we let this warning sign pass unnoticed.

[msongs]

2. no vote reform bill or police reform bill...cuz of the filibuster nt

[USAFRetired_Liberal]

3. The problem is dumb voters

Don’t know how things work…blaming Democrats to fix and pass stuff when their margins are very slim in both houses and where in the senate Republicans can block everything with the assistance of a couple of Democrats

[rdking647]

4. calling teh voters dumb doesnt matter

dumb or not they voted. the GOP has figured out how to appeal to dumb. and the dems just sit idly by twiddiling their thumbs

[USAFRetired_Liberal]

15. No I am not calling those voters dumb

I am calling the ones who would normally vote for the Democrats dumb because as you pointed out in your OP, they think that they aren’t doing anything….instead of paying attention and realizing they need to hold Republicans accountable for the obstruction by sending a message that their obstruction won’t be tolerated…one way that message is sent out by voting overwhelmingly Democratic in whatever election you can vote in…..now if the message is sent and these voters give the Democrats and overwhelming majority in the senate and house and things still aren’t getting done, then I would agree with your OP

[Claustrum]

19. Same with calling them all racist.

I don't disagree with their premise but there are things we can talk about and get them to vote for us that trumps their racism inside. Biden won those suburban votes and we lost them in VA today. It's not as unreachable as some make it out to be. We at least have to stop yelling racist/dumb/stupid/immortal and try to find ways to connect to some of those voters. They are reachable.

[USAFRetired_Liberal]

27. See you are buying on to the media spin

I disagree with the premise that Youngkin somehow flipped suburban voters…I think it’s more the case that the suburban voters that came out for Trump in 2020 came out this election, while a lot of the ones that voted for Biden just didn’t vote….so when you see that a suburban county went to mccauliffe 55-45, while going to Biden 60-40 the media is going to jump and say Youngkin cut into the margins by flipping votes when he cut into margins by voters staying home

[edhopper]

5. Democrats

Have 2 Senators to blame, who are OK with total Republican rule.

[apcalc]

6. I do not subscribe your premise in any way.

[rdking647]

10. you may not but the results beg to differ

[RaspberryMuffin]

7. I am pretty happy

With the American Rescue Plan and availability of covid shots. Dems should be bragging about how the ARP saved people, housed the homeless, prevented many evictions, increased unemployment compensation, gave PPP to businesses.

[Claustrum]

9. I don't completely disagree with you.

But the problem is accompanied by a senate that's 50/50. I am sure we can pass more bills if we had the 53/47 senate like Trump did. The two holdouts wouldn't be a problem if we had a 53 majority.

[rdking647]

14. if if if

all that matters is results. and the current way isnt working

[mcar]

12. Nonsense

[MFM008]

13. blaming Manchin

and Sinema is putting the blame right where it needs to be.
Manchin came out less than 24 hours before this election to dump on Bidens agenda
and gaurentees we cant run on that agenda.

ts just what Jim Comey did to Hillary Clinton

[rdking647]

17. i blame a bunch of 70+ year old white men and women.

anyone under the age of 40 is fed up with them.. all of them...

[Eliot Rosewater]

16. What would new leadership do to stop two senators who are clearly compromised and dont need

the party, at all? Be specific please.

[rdking647]

20. anything is worth a try

when the current team if failing you replace the manager and teh GM


Its time for teh dems to do that.
we need new younger leadership.

[Eliot Rosewater]

22. You have NO idea at all what they would do? You see, neither do I.

I cant imagine what young progressives could do to change their minds.

[rdking647]

26. im also not a so called party leader.

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. You dont have to be a party leader to imagine what anyone could do to change their minds, right?

The point is NOBODY could do a god damn thing if two of your elected officials decide they will sell out and they will fuck your party and country.

NOTHING can change that.

Now if you want to get better overall management to change the future, I am all on board with that.

Personally I think it is too late, the fascist is going to take over.

[sop]

18. Why are Democrats always so easily dissuaded from turning out?

[rdking647]

21. if you were a 20 something why woldl you bother voting

you came out to vote in 2020 and nothings changed. why bother?

[Sugarcoated]

29. Very short sighted

not smart

[USAFRetired_Liberal]

30. That means the 20 year old really isn't paying attention

If anything he or she should be more fired up with the Republican obstruction stopping what he voted for

[bucolic_frolic]

23. Democrats have Stim#3, dozens of judges, reversing TFG policies to show for it

We hide from them because they give Republicans a target.

We need to do more than fundraise by mail and email. It is not all about money. It is about county parties and how in touch they are with voters and promoting our issues to voters, Democrat and Independent. Some of our state parties are doing well by closer contact with county party HQ. Yet the DNC's focus is on fundraising, from what I see anyway. Jaime Harrison is a prolific fundraiser. But he's not in office. I wonder if we need to turn to our state party apparatus for fresh ideas.

[Mary in S. Carolina]

24. I disagree

We concentrate on what we have not accomplished instead of what we have accomplished.

[ZonkerHarris]

25. thread trashed for whining