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I don't think Jamie Harrison is up to the job. We need someone like Howard Dean who is proactive, (Original Post) JohnSJ Nov 2021 OP
And, As He's In Charge Me. Nov 2021 #1
Can't argue with this USAFRetired_Liberal Nov 2021 #2
He seems nice enough but Stacy A. might have been better. Peregrine Took Nov 2021 #3
Howard Dean brought messaging skills and issue clarity that most party chairs lack bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #4
Agree. (n/t) SMC22307 Nov 2021 #5
People keep bringing up Howard Dean because... brooklynite Nov 2021 #6
Dean, McCaulfe, Perez, Wasserman Schultz, etc. were out there on various news shows, pushing JohnSJ Nov 2021 #8
but he was a loud VOICE at the time, appreciated by many Dems, elleng Nov 2021 #9
But that's not what we needed in Virginia. brooklynite Nov 2021 #11
How do you know that's not what we needed in Virginia? n/t Mysterian Nov 2021 #12
Howard Dean lucked out and had George Bush's Republican Party to run against. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #7
I think in this toxic environment unless there's someone like Michael avenatti Tribetime Nov 2021 #10
Howard Dean had a real knack for plain speaking Deminpenn Nov 2021 #13
At least he made an appearance. JohnSJ Nov 2021 #15
He is awful! Only got the job because Clyburn demanded it helpisontheway Nov 2021 #14
Part of the price Biden had to pay for Clyburn's support Deminpenn Nov 2021 #17
yes, his Senate campaign should have set off major warning signs. He took one outlier poll, weeks Celerity Nov 2021 #19
Yep. Hard-charging, in-your-face leaders are needed to motivate the troops and confront the enemy. dalton99a Nov 2021 #16
maybe it is time for some of those marinated in comity, bipartisanship and traditions of Congress.. Grasswire2 Nov 2021 #18

Me.

(35,454 posts)
1. And, As He's In Charge
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:45 PM
Nov 2021

he needs to stop complaining about what the dems aren't doing. It's up to him.

Peregrine Took

(7,416 posts)
3. He seems nice enough but Stacy A. might have been better.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:47 PM
Nov 2021

Being an old "Deaniac," of course, I love Howard Dean -his smarts and his passion

and his "50 State Strategy" would be an excellent roadmap for the future.

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
4. Howard Dean brought messaging skills and issue clarity that most party chairs lack
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:47 PM
Nov 2021

Jaime Harrison is a prodigious fundraiser, but it didn't win his Senate race. As a former Governor, Howard Dean had ballast and stature. We need to go in that direction. So I agree with the OP.

brooklynite

(94,679 posts)
6. People keep bringing up Howard Dean because...
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:48 PM
Nov 2021

...they like his speeches, and they know he had something called a "50-State strategy" which they can't actually define.

The DNC Chair is NOT the voice of Party. The DNC Chair raises money and works with State Parties to develop local infrastructure. Neither of those planks would have changed the outcome of the Virginia races.

JohnSJ

(92,325 posts)
8. Dean, McCaulfe, Perez, Wasserman Schultz, etc. were out there on various news shows, pushing
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:57 PM
Nov 2021

the Democratic agenda along with working with state parties and raising money

His job is to push an agenda to raise money, and I don’t think he is doing a particularly good job of that. The emails I have received from him soliciting money are not particularly inspiring



elleng

(131,053 posts)
9. but he was a loud VOICE at the time, appreciated by many Dems,
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 11:04 PM
Nov 2021

and many of us did and do understand the 50 state strategy, different from rahm who refused to acknowledge Dean's approach (at an event I attended.)

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
7. Howard Dean lucked out and had George Bush's Republican Party to run against.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:55 PM
Nov 2021

Bush's approval rating when Dean ran the DNC was in the 20s and 30s and the Republicans were decimated largely due to his incompetence, not anything special Dean did.

Tribetime

(4,701 posts)
10. I think in this toxic environment unless there's someone like Michael avenatti
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 11:07 PM
Nov 2021

Personality it won't matter

Deminpenn

(15,289 posts)
13. Howard Dean had a real knack for plain speaking
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 11:15 PM
Nov 2021

That's what made him different. No BS, just straight talk.

I saw Harrison on with Wallace today and was pretty disappointed.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
14. He is awful! Only got the job because Clyburn demanded it
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 11:18 PM
Nov 2021

Don’t get me wrong..I wanted Jaime to kick Lindsay Graham’s butt. However, he is not the right person for this job.

Celerity

(43,470 posts)
19. yes, his Senate campaign should have set off major warning signs. He took one outlier poll, weeks
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:08 AM
Nov 2021

before the election, that showed him within the margin of error versus Graham, and then convinced so many that he had a chance, thus drawing in and wasting tens of millions of dollars on a fantasyland, wish-fulfilment Charge of the Light Brigade. He never came close to spending all that money, and the national apparatus never shifted it to help candidates like Bullock in MY and Greenfield in IA (to a lesser extent, and unlike Bullock, she was not the best candidate we could have had there, Bullock was the ONLY best possible Dem Senate candidate who lost).

Bullock actually WAS leading (and Greenfield was close) until last minute insane RW dark money advert dumps that buried them late, and for which they had nowhere near enough money to counter. The same thing happened in fantasyland races KY and Texas, and (to a lesser extent) Maine. They all shit away so much money that could have went elsewhere. I was warning on this for weeks BEFORE the elections.

Harrison's model was based off smoke and mirrors. He never was up to being the national DNC head. I said this before he was chosen as well, and caught hell.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
18. maybe it is time for some of those marinated in comity, bipartisanship and traditions of Congress..
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:52 AM
Nov 2021

...to step down now and let people who came to maturity in the information age off the bench.

It's a new world, and it's a death match.

So many talented people are held back from leadership and power.

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