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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt was NON-COLLEGE educated white women in Virginia that switched
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McAuliffe actually did better with college educated white women than Biden did.
Stunning results.
rockfordfile
(8,742 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(156,297 posts)People without much education tend to vote R.
That's just the way it goes.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)between then and now?
bottomofthehill
(9,353 posts)Your children are not safe in schools, boys dressed like girls will attack them in the girls room, fights breaking out, masks will kill them, vaccines will take their virginity . The crazy went deep and people ate it up. The message of be afraid of black and brown people and taking their southern culture was a bridge too far
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)That stuff was going on when Biden was elected.
I think the poster in #7 summed it up:
Non-college educated white women became unemployed or risked Covid on essential jobs.
bluewater
(5,420 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)I'll hold my thoughts lest I get in trouble...
bottomofthehill
(9,353 posts)The TV Spots were about as blunt as a hammer. The message was beaten in, your children are not safe at school because of democrats.
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SMC22307
(8,090 posts)a few weeks ago and was stunned at the big, red Youngkin signs all over. It seemed very MAGA-ish to me... lots of people pissed that Trump lost and they sure as hell were going to vote.
bottomofthehill
(9,353 posts)bottomofthehill
(9,353 posts)ASHLAND, Va. (AP) Glenn Youngkin wants voters in Virginia to hear an urgent message: Your children are in danger.
In a speech in Northern Virginias suburbs last week, the Republican candidate for governor highlighted the murky case of a student who allegedly committed sex crimes in two area schools. He said the incidents, which have sparked community outrage, are the result of failed Democratic leadership.
What other tragedy awaits Virginias children? an atypically grim-faced Youngkin asked from the podium, flanked by a collection of parents and schoolchildren.
Full article below
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-elections-crime-virginia-election-2020-b3265985b40d25db51491a39b07a2737
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)but non-college-educated white women did not?
bottomofthehill
(9,353 posts)More highly educated voters tend to question the message and the messenger more than those less educated.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)I just find it surprising that there was a nearly 20% drop in the non-college-educated white woman vote between 2020 (Biden) and 2021 (McAuliffe). That's a huge drop in one year.
pstokely
(10,858 posts)or non college educated non whites?
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)bluewater
(5,420 posts)Thanks.
triron
(22,240 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)bottomofthehill
(9,353 posts)Youngkins victory confirms a depressing reality: Trumpism succeeds as a tactic even in the absence of Trump. Though Youngkin nominally distanced himself from Trump (he didnt mention Trump often or attend events where Trump spoke on his behalf), he ran a classic MAGA campaign, raising racial fear and animus among White voters by scaring them about crime and the phantom menace of critical race theory. He littered the airwaves with falsehoods and falsely implicated McAuliffe in a dark conspiracy theory involving the FBI. Youngkin emphasized the Trumpian trope of election integrity and called for an audit of Virginias voting machines, while Trump and other Youngkin surrogates told Virginians to expect fraud.
Big Blue Marble
(5,670 posts)It looks like they were carefully targeted with state and local issues, primarily about
educating their children from what I have read.
mvd
(65,863 posts)Repukes are always neglecting public education. Less educated can mean more susceptible to scare tactics like what the Repukes are doing with CRT.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)CentralMass
(16,904 posts)Thanks for the levity, I needed cheering up.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)uponit7771
(93,499 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)COVID restrictions? CRT? Afghanistan withdrawal? Soshulism?
underpants
(195,550 posts)Always works.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Celerity
(53,997 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)College educated white women worked remotely.
Non-college educated white women became unemployed or risked Covid on essential jobs.
underpants
(195,550 posts)Id say CRT and what they saw particularly in Richmond last summer.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)bluewater
(5,420 posts)JI7
(93,360 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)What was it that triggered the switch in such a short period of time?
JI7
(93,360 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)between 2020 (Biden) and 2021 (McAuliffe). Why?
JI7
(93,360 posts)they still get easily fooled by the fear mongering .
I remember years ago reading about how white women were most likely to oppose immigration during some controversial issue in california .
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)what made them switch back?
JI7
(93,360 posts)People are more comfortable with Biden and I think Kaine and WArner would have won also.
Attacks on Biden don't work as well as they would on other Democrats . It's why Obama picked him for VP .
bottomofthehill
(9,353 posts)ASHLAND, Va. (AP) Glenn Youngkin wants voters in Virginia to hear an urgent message: Your children are in danger.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,656 posts)MFM008
(20,042 posts)you meant to say....
haele
(15,188 posts)McAuliffe made a huge mistake on his comment that basically indicated he had no problems taking power away from parents who were worried about the education their kids were getting and don't understand nuance well.
Which basically means he put off white women who accept/prefer traditional roles and don't pursue higher education because they don't believe they personally need to be more than a mother and wife.
USAFRetired_Liberal
(4,392 posts)I wager to bet that the ones who voted for Biden last time just didnt vote
TheRealNorth
(9,647 posts)Did the Democratic-leaning voters just not turn out, or was there a change in how individuals voted.
JI7
(93,360 posts)and I mean real independents that can go either way. Not just people who claim to be independent but always vote one way .
pidge
(274 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,848 posts)roamer65
(37,850 posts)dalton99a
(92,821 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Why no information on this?
Chille
(193 posts)who won is an AA. I think everyone who wanted to vote voted
Sunsky
(1,876 posts)Because she's black does not mean AAs turned out to vote for her.
I would like to see the AA turnout numbers because I've been hearing a lot of anger in my circle toward the Biden administration. They say Kamala has been silent and Biden has not put his weight behind key measures important to our community. I have heard the word disrespected used numerous times.
uponit7771
(93,499 posts)... family and friends who are black
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)msfiddlestix
(8,169 posts)That's the demographic we have to improve our appeal with.
uponit7771
(93,499 posts)Socal31
(2,491 posts)I've been around DU long enough to remember when only the mouth-breathing trolls were afraid to be tomb-stoned.
But now it feels like one cannot do an honest post-mortem or meta discussion on strategy, without being seen as promoting/endorsing (R) talking points.
It is OK to say that CRT or its framework is being incorporated into K-12 curriculum. Not to advocate for its eradication, or fall for the racist tropes of the Trumptards. But to discuss and unify the proper messaging as to why it is NORMAL to teach about race. Pretending it doesn't exist does not work.
It is OK to say that vaccine mandates are going to be a wedge issue in Purple states. Not to advocate for ending public health measures designed to save lives, but to discuss and unify the proper messaging as to WHY the vaccines are necessary. Calling everyone against mandates "anti-vaxx", or pretending there is no controversy, does not work.
It is OK to acknowledge that inflation is real and is caused in part by inflating the money supply (deficit spending). Not to argue against BBB, but to discuss and unify our messaging as to why the BBB plan actually IMPROVES the economy, even more so if Manchin doesn't torpedo the new taxes on the uber-Rich. Pretending that food and energy prices are not alarmingly higher in some regions, will not work.
We have the advantage of holding the correct views, as will be judged by history. So why don't we address them head-on, and bury these wingnuts for every election in the foreseeable future?
