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Elie Mystal: Welp. Now watch the white people who did this blame black folk their mess. (Original Post) Celerity Nov 2021 OP
Too much pressure on black voters to come out in HUGE numbers JI7 Nov 2021 #1
Sadly, nothing enrages white voters like reducing black poverty Recursion Nov 2021 #2
No Black agenda, No vote. WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #3
I hope they realize that puts them on a path of no future vote SouthernDem4ever Nov 2021 #4
So you say. WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #5
I am talking about losing your right to vote SouthernDem4ever Nov 2021 #9
Well considering WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #10
Maybe you're missing my point SouthernDem4ever Nov 2021 #15
You may be missing the point. WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #16
If the Democrat had won, we'd be thanking treestar Nov 2021 #6
🤔... electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #7
+1, there was a 19% flip from non college educated white women McA gained 2% more ... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #12
👍 electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #13
The non-college educated white women who voted for Biden switched to Youngkin. SMC22307 Nov 2021 #18
15% of white women who voted for Biden voted Republican this time. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2021 #8
19% of flip of non college educated white women to TrumpKin, McA ..GAINED.. 2% college educated uponit7771 Nov 2021 #11
👍 electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #14
Exactly. And no one seems too focused as to why. SMC22307 Nov 2021 #17

JI7

(89,260 posts)
1. Too much pressure on black voters to come out in HUGE numbers
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 02:53 AM
Nov 2021

because too many others vote for shitty people .

We need to start calling out the people that vote for shit in HUGE numbers .

Black people get criticism for voting a few percentage points less than in a previous election even if the number was still hugely for democrats, especially compared to other groups.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. Sadly, nothing enrages white voters like reducing black poverty
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 02:55 AM
Nov 2021

And that's been the Biden admin's main accomplishment.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
4. I hope they realize that puts them on a path of no future vote
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 05:52 AM
Nov 2021

because that is the republican M.O. of today. The issues today are much more severe than "what can you do for me?"

WestIndianArchie

(386 posts)
5. So you say.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 06:37 AM
Nov 2021

Nothing is going on in America more significant than a black agenda, for me. You're talking about severe issues; maybe you can point out some of the more important ones.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
9. I am talking about losing your right to vote
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:23 PM
Nov 2021

all else takes a back seat. Without your voting rights, you have nothing, you'll get nothing.

WestIndianArchie

(386 posts)
10. Well considering
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 07:05 AM
Nov 2021

For people that look like me, voting has not been very fruitful. What happens when a significant portion of the population decides not to participate?

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
15. Maybe you're missing my point
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 08:44 PM
Nov 2021

If you can no longer vote, or your vote doesn't count, then ANY and ALL issues you may have from the past, today and in the future will never be given a chance under authoritarian rule, which is what is happening in some red states right now. I don't care what your race or creed or country of origin If you can't vote for leaders who might change things, you're grievances won't matter, ever.

WestIndianArchie

(386 posts)
16. You may be missing the point.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 10:41 PM
Nov 2021

"If you can't vote for leaders who might change things, you're grievances won't matter, ever." Are you going to make me spell it out?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. If the Democrat had won, we'd be thanking
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 06:42 AM
Nov 2021

the black women voters. Now you're recognizing the white women are larger in number.

electric_blue68

(14,923 posts)
7. 🤔...
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 07:11 AM
Nov 2021

While maybe more black votes would have helped
AND...

We white people have to somehow convince more white
people not to be racist. Aaarrrgggg!

I maaaaybe think it might be easier dealing with women. Cause I'm a woman.

A very long time ago I decided to only be friends (along with the usual attraction of like interests, good personality mix etc) with non racist, or the least racist (so I could talk with them about it).
So I haven't had these more intense conversations.
I do know what I probably would say depending on what the person said.

Maybe that's part of what I need to do here and there.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
12. +1, there was a 19% flip from non college educated white women McA gained 2% more ...
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 07:21 AM
Nov 2021

... white college educated white women

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
18. The non-college educated white women who voted for Biden switched to Youngkin.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 10:50 PM
Nov 2021

If they were racist, wouldn't they have stuck with Trump in 2020? Not everything can be chalked up to racism.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
11. 19% of flip of non college educated white women to TrumpKin, McA ..GAINED.. 2% college educated
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 07:19 AM
Nov 2021

... white women.

We need to know why

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
17. Exactly. And no one seems too focused as to why.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 10:46 PM
Nov 2021

It's like the NE Pennsyvlanians who voted for Obama then switched to Trump. They were all lazily chalked up as flaming racists which is total bullshit -- it was the economy. As far as Virginia, I'm guessing it was a combination of COVID and CRT but I want to hear from them.

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