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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsElie Mystal: Welp. Now watch the white people who did this blame black folk their mess.
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JI7
(89,260 posts)because too many others vote for shitty people .
We need to start calling out the people that vote for shit in HUGE numbers .
Black people get criticism for voting a few percentage points less than in a previous election even if the number was still hugely for democrats, especially compared to other groups.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)And that's been the Biden admin's main accomplishment.
WestIndianArchie
(386 posts)Real simple solution.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)because that is the republican M.O. of today. The issues today are much more severe than "what can you do for me?"
WestIndianArchie
(386 posts)Nothing is going on in America more significant than a black agenda, for me. You're talking about severe issues; maybe you can point out some of the more important ones.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)all else takes a back seat. Without your voting rights, you have nothing, you'll get nothing.
WestIndianArchie
(386 posts)For people that look like me, voting has not been very fruitful. What happens when a significant portion of the population decides not to participate?
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)If you can no longer vote, or your vote doesn't count, then ANY and ALL issues you may have from the past, today and in the future will never be given a chance under authoritarian rule, which is what is happening in some red states right now. I don't care what your race or creed or country of origin If you can't vote for leaders who might change things, you're grievances won't matter, ever.
WestIndianArchie
(386 posts)"If you can't vote for leaders who might change things, you're grievances won't matter, ever." Are you going to make me spell it out?
treestar
(82,383 posts)the black women voters. Now you're recognizing the white women are larger in number.
electric_blue68
(14,923 posts)While maybe more black votes would have helped
AND...
We white people have to somehow convince more white
people not to be racist. Aaarrrgggg!
I maaaaybe think it might be easier dealing with women. Cause I'm a woman.
A very long time ago I decided to only be friends (along with the usual attraction of like interests, good personality mix etc) with non racist, or the least racist (so I could talk with them about it).
So I haven't had these more intense conversations.
I do know what I probably would say depending on what the person said.
Maybe that's part of what I need to do here and there.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... white college educated white women
electric_blue68
(14,923 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)If they were racist, wouldn't they have stuck with Trump in 2020? Not everything can be chalked up to racism.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Plenty of blame to go around.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... white women.
We need to know why
electric_blue68
(14,923 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)It's like the NE Pennsyvlanians who voted for Obama then switched to Trump. They were all lazily chalked up as flaming racists which is total bullshit -- it was the economy. As far as Virginia, I'm guessing it was a combination of COVID and CRT but I want to hear from them.