Wed Nov 3, 2021, 03:56 AM
Budi (15,325 posts)
Seth Abrahamson reports: More chilling details emerging of Jan 6th
This is from his podcsst. I didn't see it, but this excerpt was in my email.
It's from his subbstack & it's is well worth passing along. --------------- https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/major-breaking-news-evidence-mounts JANUARY 6 Evidence Mounts of Team Trump Plot to Occupy the Capitol on January 6It's become increasingly clear that Trump and his legal team directed an effort to occupy the U.S. Capitol long enough for Trump allies in six states to decertify Joe Biden's 2020 election victory. Seth Abramson According to a January 2021 report by NBC News, in December 2020 a “digital flyer” made the rounds of Trumpist circles, on Facebook and Instagram urging all Trump voters to descend on Washington on January 6 for “Operation Occupy the Capitol.” On January 6, CNN would report that “A source close to the White House who is in touch with some of the rioters at the Capitol said it’s the goal of those involved [in the insurrection] to stay inside the Capitol through the night.” We can’t know the veracity of an anonymous source within the White House—given that many there might have felt implicated by the events of January 6—so we cannot know whether the insurrectionists planned to “stay inside the Capitol” until “only” January 7 or, consistent with bizarre claims made by Trump lawyer Joe diGenova, that somehow the joint session of Congress scheduled for January 6 might extend out to January 8, but we can know the one thing that Donald Trump least wanted to say to the rioters in his recorded videos from January 6. SNIP As reported by Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker of the Washington Post in their book I Alone Can Fix It, Trump had to do multiple takes of his first video message to his supporters on January 6 for one simple reason: he kept “veering off the script his speechwriters had prepared”, As Proof has reported, by January 2, 2021, a consortium of entities in regular contact with one another—the Office of the President, the Stop the Steal “movement”, GOP state legislators in thrall to the then-president, and Trump’s legal team (headquartered during Insurrection Week at the Willard Hotel)—had determined that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) would not succeed in pushing for a ten-day commission to study the results of the 2020 presidential election. And Ted Cruz had informed the White House, per the book Peril by Robert Costa and Bob Woodward, that he would not challenge a sufficient number of Joe Biden-won states—he was willing to contest two, while Trump’s legal team was at first satisfied with six but later demanded “ten” once Trumpists’ attempt to occupy the Capitol fizzled out—to delay the joint session of Congress until January 7 or even January 8, which Trump required if state legislators were going to meet in special session in six states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) to decertify Biden’s election as President of the United States through an unprecedented form of legislative fiat. SNIP Rather, the plan was for the Trumpists on the ground at the Capitol to be sufficiently angry, sufficiently prepared for battle, and in sufficient numbers to do exactly as the digital flyer circulated by the insurrectionists in December 2020 had indicated: occupy the U.S. Capitol for a sufficient period to enable Trump’s legal and political teams to engage in whatever stratagems were necessary for Trump to retain the White House. “Operation Occupy the Capitol” It is important to understand that, as reported by Proof, Trump was in direct contact with insurrectionist leaders on January 2 by conference call, and during a 14-minute presentation to these leaders—and the nearly 300 state legislators he needed to back his play to decertify Biden’s November 2020 election victory—created significant new evidence that the operation to occupy the Capitol was coordinated by him and his legal team. Trump’s Trump would not commit to urging the insurrectionists to leave the Capitol. Per Karl’s book, “The former president liked what he saw [on television], boasted about the size of the crowd, and argued with aides who wanted him to tell his supporters to stop rioting.” Up until now, many have presumed that the twice-impeached, one-term president was merely acting out of spite on January 6, not calculation. A growing body of evidence strongly indicates otherwise: "that Trump believed he could retain the Oval Office—and his immunity from future criminal prosecution—if the January 6 joint session of Congress were postponed long enough for his allies in six state legislatures to perfect a legislative coup of the federal government and an override of the 2020 election. https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/major-breaking-news-evidence-mounts
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Budi | Nov 2021 | OP |
BlueJac | Nov 2021 | #1 | |
Chille | Nov 2021 | #2 | |
Irish_Dem | Nov 2021 | #4 | |
prodigitalson | Nov 2021 | #5 | |
Irish_Dem | Nov 2021 | #7 | |
2naSalit | Nov 2021 | #8 | |
Saoirse9 | Nov 2021 | #14 | |
Mike 03 | Nov 2021 | #15 | |
Buckeye_Democrat | Nov 2021 | #3 | |
malaise | Nov 2021 | #6 | |
2naSalit | Nov 2021 | #9 | |
CrackityJones75 | Nov 2021 | #10 | |
Bettie | Nov 2021 | #19 | |
Champp | Nov 2021 | #11 | |
tanyev | Nov 2021 | #12 | |
lagomorph777 | Nov 2021 | #13 | |
triron | Nov 2021 | #16 | |
Grasswire2 | Nov 2021 | #18 | |
triron | Nov 2021 | #17 | |
BSdetect | Nov 2021 | #20 | |
triron | Nov 2021 | #21 |
Response to Budi (Original post)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 06:10 AM
BlueJac (7,838 posts)
1. Interesting...
Then what?
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Response to BlueJac (Reply #1)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 06:30 AM
Chille (193 posts)
2. They aren't
capable of thinking that far a head. Their brains can only hold so much information at once 😁
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Response to BlueJac (Reply #1)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:10 AM
Irish_Dem (40,833 posts)
4. If the election was not certified Trump could say he was still the president?
Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:30 AM
prodigitalson (1,691 posts)
5. No
His term and Pence's would have been over and Pelosi would be President.
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Response to prodigitalson (Reply #5)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:51 AM
Irish_Dem (40,833 posts)
7. So that is why they were going after Pelosi too on 1/6.
Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #7)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:41 AM
Saoirse9 (3,602 posts)
14. Yes. Despicable.
Response to BlueJac (Reply #1)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:49 AM
Mike 03 (16,616 posts)
15. Wasn't the idea based on two options:
The certified votes of states in dispute (battleground states) would not be counted, throwing the vote to the Congress, with each state getting one vote and the number of Trump states outnumbering the Dem states by one, leading to a Trump 'victory'. The idea is that their validity would be contested on Jan 6 in a formal setting.
And then: Democrats justifiably raise hell, and the states in dispute are told to "go back to the drawing board" and, based on illegitimate claims of election fraud, come up with an alternate slate of electors, also throwing the election to Trump. It's insanely evil and maybe ridiculous, but I believe that was the thinking. |
Response to Budi (Original post)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 06:52 AM
Buckeye_Democrat (14,796 posts)
3. And those states could only decertify their elections...
... until after Jan. 6th... why?
Is there some law that Seth Abramson assumes that everyone should know, but a dummy like me does not? The article goes on and on about the supposed goal of delaying until states could decertify their election results, but never explains why it had to happen AFTER Jan. 6th. Were those supposed state decertifying groups supposedly busy washing their hair until after Jan. 6th, or what? |
Response to Budi (Original post)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:40 AM
malaise (261,856 posts)
6. The Slobfather MUST be locked up
that is all
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Response to Budi (Original post)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:25 AM
CrackityJones75 (2,403 posts)
10. Here's the thing
In terms of justice this NEEDS to be prosecuted.
In terms of politics. I don’t think this os going to have any effect. People just don’t give a shit that white people stormed the capitol. White people can basically do whatever the fuck they want in this country. |
Response to CrackityJones75 (Reply #10)
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:18 AM
Bettie (15,298 posts)
19. Unfortunately, you are right
though, there are also special dispensations among white people for right wing religious nut jobs.
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Response to Budi (Original post)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:26 AM
Champp (2,114 posts)
11. Republican: Operation Piss & Shit on the USA
And the Republicans literally did that. They pissed and shat all over the Capitol of the United States of America.
And the whole freaking Republican party is fine with that. Not a peep of complaint. Disgusting. |
Response to Budi (Original post)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:09 AM
tanyev (40,918 posts)
12. Marking to read later.
Response to Budi (Original post)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:21 AM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
13. Does DOJ know all this?
If so, why are Trump and his henchmen not in jail?
If they don't know this stuff, that's even worse. |
Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #13)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:12 AM
triron (21,519 posts)
16. Yep. Where is the media???
Pouting puke talking points?
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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #13)
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 01:40 AM
Grasswire2 (13,326 posts)
18. Abramson was many months ahead of MSM on the Willard story.
It's well worth five bucks a month subscribe to his publication.
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Response to Budi (Original post)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:44 PM
triron (21,519 posts)
17. Trump committed treason (again) and got away with it again (so far).
Law? What's that he says?
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