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WhiskeyGrinder

(26,478 posts)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 07:50 AM Nov 2021

Candidate who actually runs on "defund the police" actually wins

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/local/des-moines/2021/11/02/who-won-des-moines-city-council-results-election-2021-sheumaker-mandelbaum-boesen/8573151002/

Social justice advocate Indira Sheumaker defeats incumbent Bill Gray in Des Moines City Council race

Des Moines voters sent a new, young candidate to the City Council chamber, ousting a longtime incumbent, and supported keeping two other council members in office.

With 100% of precincts reporting, first-time candidate Indira Sheumaker defeated incumbent Bill Gray in the Des Moines City Council’s Ward 1 race. Gray was first elected in 2014.

Sheumaker received 46.36% of the vote, according to unofficial results from the Polk County Auditor's Office. Gray tallied 36.32% and challenger Marcus Coenen finished with 16.82%.

(snip)

Sheumaker, who ran on a platform of defunding the police, is the first Black woman on the council in decades. The late Willie Glanton became the first Black Des Moines City Council member in 1985.


If you're familiar with my posts, you'll know that I don't think "defund the police" is effective to run on, just as I don't think that "abolish the police," an approach I prefer, is useful in electoral politics.

What I do think is interesting is that Republicans use "defund the police" as a scare slogan about Democrats who don't use it, but when one actually does use it, it's not a disadvantage.
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Candidate who actually runs on "defund the police" actually wins (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 OP
Hell yeah, we got a Des Moines City Council race! Devil Child Nov 2021 #1
Minneapolis doesn't think so. Ocelot II Nov 2021 #4
Voters obviously don't understand Defund The Police Devil Child Nov 2021 #5
If the people who write ballot measures could clearly explain what they intend, Ocelot II Nov 2021 #6
Agreed, until that happens it will be a loser IMO Devil Child Nov 2021 #8
. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #2
Today the Des Moines City Council: Tomorrow..... Tomconroy Nov 2021 #3
If you're familiar with my posts, you'll know that I don't think "defund the police" is effective to WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #7
Did you notice that in Buffalo the write in canidate cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #9
Explain Minneapolis? Devil Child Nov 2021 #10
I was talking specifically about candidates. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #11
Meanwhile... brooklynite Nov 2021 #12
But we got Des Moines City Council!!!!! Devil Child Nov 2021 #14
THANK YOU !!! When we don't allow the GQP to beat us on the head with an issue we win !!! uponit7771 Nov 2021 #13
She's smart and articulate and does her homework. SharonClark Nov 2021 #15
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
1. Hell yeah, we got a Des Moines City Council race!
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 07:53 AM
Nov 2021

Defund the Police is clearly a winning message.

Congrats to Indira Sheumaker on her victory.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
5. Voters obviously don't understand Defund The Police
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:05 AM
Nov 2021

If voters simply understood what defund the police meant they would've voted correctly to defund the police.


Ocelot II

(129,353 posts)
6. If the people who write ballot measures could clearly explain what they intend,
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:07 AM
Nov 2021

maybe those measures would pass. Or at least people would know what they're voting on.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,478 posts)
7. If you're familiar with my posts, you'll know that I don't think "defund the police" is effective to
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:07 AM
Nov 2021

run on, just as I don't think that "abolish the police," an approach I prefer, is useful in electoral politics.

What I do think is interesting is that Republicans use "defund the police" as a scare slogan about Democrats who don't use it, but when one actually does use it, it's not a disadvantage.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
9. Did you notice that in Buffalo the write in canidate
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:13 AM
Nov 2021

(Admittedly the current four term mayor) defeated the democratic nominee?

I'm not sure defund the police is working for most people.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
10. Explain Minneapolis?
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:16 AM
Nov 2021

Doesn't sound like an advantage when voters reject a defund the police measure.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
12. Meanwhile...
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:44 AM
Nov 2021

DIane Morales, who ran on DTP in the NYC Mayoral Primary came in 6th.

Minneapolis voted down a DTP referendum.

Seattle voted for a Republican over a DTP Dermocrat.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
14. But we got Des Moines City Council!!!!!
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:51 AM
Nov 2021

Undeniable proof of something significant and totally outweighs your examples of voters clearly not understanding what they are supposed to vote for.



When faced with the reality of DTP being a loser, will adherents recognize this or double down on their rhetoric? Perhaps more guilt and shame is needed for voters to understand DTP? Time to turn towards twitter for the answers!

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
15. She's smart and articulate and does her homework.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:10 AM
Nov 2021

Sheumaker didn't WIN on 'defund the police". She ran an impressive and progressive campaign based on the needs of the people in Ward 1 - affordable housing, food deserts, internet access, public transportation, the concerns of the ward being ignored, etc. The incumbent was a councilperson of no consequence who did nothing for the ward and usually voted for whatever the police department wanted.

Sheumaker went from Council "disrupter" to candidate easily.

...[Mayor] Cownie calls Sheumaker “probably one of the more articulate people that chooses to speak” and said she’s forceful. Asked about her run for the council, he recalled his first run for mayor, when “I hoped for a change in attitude in the way the council looked to meeting the needs of the public.”

“She’s young,” he said. “She has a reason to run. She has a voice. I respect her for making the run.”

source: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/rekha-basu/2021/03/07/indira-sheumaker-des-moines-blm-movement-inspires-political-vision/6839302002/
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