Virginia Sen. Kaine: "Congressional Democrats hurt Terry McAuliffe"
Virginia Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine said Wednesday that congressional Democrats are to blame for Terry McAuliffe losing the VA governor’s race to Republican Glenn Youngkin.
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“I think it was on the shoulders of Democrats here who have the majority,” he said. “People had a lot of hope for Joe Biden and the Joe Biden agenda, but Democrats didn't want to give Biden a win," he said.
He continued to say that he thinks the responsibility is shared between all congressional Democrats.
“It's on progressives who wanted to be too purist, it’s on moderates who wanted to be too purist, on the House who wanted it their way and the Senate who wanted it their way,” he said. “You got to be able to make a deal and deliver results … They want more results and we got to deliver because we are the majority and they expect us to deliver.”
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the 'BIF' is not Biden's legislation. It was concocted by a tiny group of Senators that packed it with corporate welfare.
I see you've acquired a larger Straw Man construction kit.
it’s only real for you, hence you have the straw man.
just ruminate about you and your motives, but I can’t. 
I’ll stick with the reality of what’s happened right in front of us for months now. There is not just two senators holding up Biden’s agenda. That’s what we see nightly on the news. None of this is helping Biden’s agenda get passed. In the beginning, there was some promise, but it’s just ridiculous now. The BIF is also Biden’s agenda, so just pass it.
‘My stance” is laughable, since i haven’t posted about it, but you ran with your own agenda anyway. That’s what makes it easy to see why Sinema won’t talk publicly. No need to invite this kind of distortion.
with it or its present participle form (adlibbing).
It doesn't even make semantic sense in terms of the way you are attempting to employ it.
Hardly, you just do like being held to account for your personal attack on me, oblique, implied, or otherwise. Your tactics do not work on me, and I understand that you probably do not like that, but that is just the way it is.
I put that false 'rambling' claim up there with another poster's claim (in another thread) that a reply of mine to them was 'evidence free' (LOL) when it had a shedload of thoroughly documented articles, as well as more than a fair amount of original writing from my own end, all arranged in a coherent linear fashion. Furthermore, it contained what must have been 15, 20 (or more) hyperlinks and urls for that very evidence, all backing up and completely buttressing my claims, whilst exposing many of their positings to be either false or groundless, hollow accusations/claims.
You just cannot help yourself. You and some others so often have to drag Sanders into things, no mater what the subject is, whether it is germane to the discussion or not, all in vain attempts to try to muddy the waters, deflect, and put me (or anyone else debating you) on the defensive. Surely you can also drag in AOC too, for extra bonus points.
Erm, that more 'practical candidate's' (Biden) agenda of SOCIAL SPENDING is exactly what the people you are ineffectually trying to have go at are SUPPORTING (and have been for months), as opposed to the 2 obstructionists, who have been doing their level best to vastly reduce and delay for months.
You are the one advocating for putting Biden's agenda in potential serious risk by pushing for just passing the BIF, with no ironclad agreement (let alone a linked final vote) on the BBB.
That then takes away most all of any leverage Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, and most all the rest of the Dem caucus in both chambers have to try and get BIDEN's BBB Act passed.
You know, the Biden BBB proposal that Manchin and Sinema have already taken a 50%, $1.75 trillion cleaver to (and that after also taking an almost 80%, $2.05 trillion hatchet to Biden's initial BIF proposal's new spend/tax incentives).
Have you already forgotten that just back in September Manchin was posturing about needing to take a 'strategic pause' on the BBB until 2022? Now he is demanding further stripping and declaring he has not agreed to anything remotely concrete about the BBB.
If that doesn't scream good faith and trustworthiness nothing does.
Take away most all leverage and watch that Manchin 'strategic pause needed until 2022' posture magically come back to the fore. Also, I would not be at all surprised to see him, at that point, fall back to lowest topline number his $1 to 1.5 trillion 'acceptable' range he laid out earlier.
some cutesy 3-paragraph personal digression. I’m not surprised at all by this lame tangent.
What’s funnier is that you are taking several paragraphs to agree that the bill linkage was for leverage. I see the people on TV who are also threatening to tank everything, and it’s not Biden. He’s not the one on TV. It’s someone else and his group. It’s on TV every day. Biden is not threatening to tank his own legislation, lol.
Again, look how people voted. It wasn’t for the big social spending. The infrastructure is still great for the American people.
We all win together, or we all fail together.
Right now - I don't believe we can keep the House or Senate next year. They are gone, gone, gone.
And I believe that because rank and file Democratic Party members / voters are picking at each other and choosing sides.
We are on the same side.
See how the GOP did it in VA? Like - the GOP is against black people (CRT), vaccines and voting rights?
Now that is perfect. 
