Rachel gets it - no panic, no freak out, no hand wringing over election

[Fiendish Thingy]

She put it all in context of the “normal ebb and flow” of electoral politics and historical patterns for VA and NJ (which broke with the normal pattern with Murphy winning)

She said Dems should not be freaking out over the election, but over all the insane background noise that maintains the Big Lie.

She neglected to criticize her colleagues in the media who are incorrectly framing this election as a catastrophe for the Dems.

[elleng]

1. We should ALL be so rational.

[c-rational]

13. +1

[chowder66]

2. Great show.

[PortTack]

3. Good..Rachael knows..if she is calm about it, then I will be too!

[ShazzieB]

23. She certainly did a good job of calming me down! 😊

[lordsummerisle]

4. k&r n/t

[chowder66]

5. Great show.

[dchill]

6. She's the best.

[dchill]

7. "It's all about the bloodline!"

Among other things, Trump's biological father is Patton! Who knew? Not me!

[Hortensis]

28. We might suspect if we knew Patton considered the SS "very good people,"

so to speak. Q-nuts apparently see and admire an unmistakable resemblance between their great leader and a father who really didn't like Mexicans either and thought Arab bloodlines somehow combined the worst of humanity. On and on similarly through various groups of humanity.

From a letter Patton wrote after Ike demoted him to, among other things, remove him from maintaining inhumane camps for displaced persons:

"So far as the Jews are concerned, they do not want to be placed in comfortable buildings. They actually prefer to live as many to a room as possible. They have no conception of sanitation, hygiene or decency and are, as you know, the same sub-human types that we saw in the internment camps."

No wonder this "extremely religious" subsect of Q-nuts are so proud of the connection.

[electric_blue68]

8. Q! No, not THAT Q! ... Oh....

Tees - JFK Jr/Trump




BLARRGGG!!!



Yeah could be scary, too.

[George II]

9. I've been saying all day, yesterday's votes weren't catastrophes. We lost Virginian. But we WON....

....just about every other important or significant election - NYC, Buffalo, OH-11, NJ, and many more.

I'm not upset, but wish we could have added Virginia to the list.

[ancianita]

10. She did call today's headlines "hysterical." So there's that.

[AlexSFCA]

11. it was a winnable election

Of course Maddow is gonna spin it for the echo chamber. This election must be a wake up call for all dems. There is a VERY real possibility we are going to lose house, senate and presidency in 2024 and a number of state legislatures.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. Exactly.

[Buddy1]

17. The message for CRT is getting warped

The general population is not accepting the value.

[DiamondShark]

30. I was looking for a new CRT to replace the old.

I can't seem to find any new CRTs, only used. I'm thinking a 24" Sony Trinitron with the Flat CRT would be best. What do you think? Should I wait for new models to come out?

[Fiendish Thingy]

18. The presidents party ALWAYS loses VA gov race, and almost always loses the house in 1st midterms

We can try our best, but it’s not a “wake up call”, it’s a normal, predictable trend.

[BadgerMom]

12. Weren't we just feeling heartened by Newsom's victory 8 or so weeks ago?

It’s not that we shouldn’t learn from past mistakes, but the sky just doesn’t appear to be falling. There are way too many Trumpists and apologists. Propaganda pollutes the media. We have work to do the next 12 months. Let’s not defeat ourselves yet.

[Wednesdays]

29. Amen. nt

[bucolic_frolic]

15. As election rebounds go, this was halfways mild

Next year is something to freak out about.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

16. For your consideration regarding the normal ebb and flow in U.S. politics:

Link to tweet

[Jon King]

19. Except Rachel, the 'normal ebb and flow' this time means democracy is done in 2024.

Repugs have placed partisans on election boards around the country. Repugs have taken powers away from attorney generals in the states and given them to partisans. Repugs have enacted historic voting suppression laws. Repugs have already implemented the apparatus to send the 2024 election to the states. Repugs are actively redistricting to ensure they get the House in 2022.

These things have already been done. So there is no 'normal ebb and flow' anymore. Repugs have found their message.....parents rights, too much radical left in education curriculum, Dems soft on crime, Dems have open borders.

So the 'normal ebb and flow' is irrelevant....Repugs have put everything in place to install a dictator in 2024.

[Mike 03]

27. Yeah, I was torn by what she did last night.

I was happy that she confronted the media talking points, but she knows better (we all do or at least should).

It used to be no big deal if a state switched Republican and Dem governors once in a while (California did that a lot) because there were certain acceptable parameters you could expect them to govern within. It used to be a governor was restricted to some degree by conventions, norms and standards.

Right now, though, its self-evident that the consequences of such a change are entirely more severe. There's a playbook that Republican governors share, follow and test with the Courts, that is intentionally designed to rapidly de-democractize the state. You roll back any new laws that make it easier to vote then impose new laws that make it more difficult to vote. He'll probably try to restrict women's reproductive freedoms. If he can do so, I guess he'll relax gun restrictions. Since it seems like he has the legislature, he can begin to sabotage the election boards and districts so that it's increasingly unlikely Democrats will win. He's already expressed his desire to remake education, which is really a shame because Virginia had come so far compared to what it was years ago. What used to be ebb and flow is actually veering towards generational changes where red states share playbooks on how to unmake democracy. Expect to see more culture wars, of course. Another test I expect him to fail is the next COVID variant spike, which will also have dire consequences. It will be interesting to see which governors he emulates.

I'm kind of disappointed, reading the comments, how even people here just swallowed that up without much critical thinking or taking into account the vast difference between fifteen years ago and today.

[cilla4progress]

20. How was she last night during it?

Restrained?

[Fiendish Thingy]

24. The only part I saw was her and Kornacki- pretty data focused

I don’t think they had called VA by the time she went off the air.

[UTUSN]

21. Sometimes a cigar is just a bad candidate, I mean, a cigar

[lees1975]

25. Yes. Best journalist in the business by far.

[mvd]

26. I'm not panicking either

While I am a little worried, some things make me feel better. We’ll have better candidates than McAuliffe. I think we’ll have much more passed by Nov. 2022. The pandemic will hopefully be ending. We’ll respond to the fear based attacks on CRT simply by saying it is not taught in the schools in question and we can’t deny our past. Biden’s approval will likely go higher. Even though I badly wanted Walton to win in Buffalo, we did get a couple good mayors. Murphy won. And finally, the vote should be higher next year.

[UTUSN]

31. Sometimes a cigar is just a bad candidate, I mean, a cigar.