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RandySF

(83,934 posts)
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:18 AM Nov 2021

Kirk Douglas assaulted Natalie Wood, her sister alleges

Ms Wood's sister, Lana, makes the allegations in her memoir "Little Sister", due for release on 9 November.
According to extracts from the book published by the Associated Press, Mr Douglas attacked Ms Wood in the summer of 1955.

The assault allegedly took place while Ms Wood was filming The Searchers.

Lana Wood says that the Hollywood stars' meeting at the famed Chateau Marmont hotel had been arranged by her mother, Maria Zakharenko, who hoped Mr Douglas could help open doors for the young actress.

Mr Douglas, who was in his 30s at the time, was one of Hollywood's most high-profile actors, starring in films such as Spartacus, The Bad and the Beautiful and Gunfight at the O.K. Corral.




https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59170667

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Kirk Douglas assaulted Natalie Wood, her sister alleges (Original Post) RandySF Nov 2021 OP
It's been known for years JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #1
I read about this years ago and since, have felt only disgust for the man. LizBeth Nov 2021 #2
"Inside Daisy Clover," an almost forgotten movie of hers, MineralMan Nov 2021 #3
I always liked that movie as well PatSeg Nov 2021 #9
I don't know, actually. MineralMan Nov 2021 #11
Also Splendor in the Grass PatSeg Nov 2021 #16
Yes. I never thought she was a great actor, but she MineralMan Nov 2021 #17
Oddly enough, PatSeg Nov 2021 #18
Yes. I agree. When I first saw "Miracle on 34th Street," I thought MineralMan Nov 2021 #19
Oh yes, she was amazing in "Miracle on 34th Street" PatSeg Nov 2021 #20
Ah...yes. MineralMan Nov 2021 #21
Yes, there were more Natalie Wood movies PatSeg Nov 2021 #22
I really think Inside Daisy Clover was a great film. Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #37
An actress named Jean Spangler went missing XanaDUer2 Nov 2021 #4
He was "cleared" obamanut2012 Nov 2021 #7
Yes, weird case XanaDUer2 Nov 2021 #8
There was a note to someone named Kirk. shrike3 Nov 2021 #36
Must sell book. Sneederbunk Nov 2021 #5
Nope, this has been an open secret for years obamanut2012 Nov 2021 #6
Did you do any research??? USALiberal Nov 2021 #10
Yeah, I'll wait to hear Kirk Douglas' side... hamsterjill Nov 2021 #12
Well yes, a publisher hopes to sell a book but gldstwmn Nov 2021 #23
But but but!111 BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #26
He was already given one. The statute of limitations gldstwmn Nov 2021 #29
In A Previous Life RobinA Nov 2021 #13
I have these books about Hollywood scandals and it is mentioned in several of the books. kimbutgar Nov 2021 #14
I'm sorry to report it's a bit late to cancel Kirk. BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #15
The fact that he was given a pass should be forgotten? gldstwmn Nov 2021 #24
Post removed Post removed Nov 2021 #25
Not that I don't believe her, but why did she wait until he was dead? BlueStater Nov 2021 #27
People knew this when he was alive, and he wasn't brought to justice then. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #32
Wow, lived to 103? Nt XanaDUer2 Nov 2021 #28
FYI, Lana Wood also has accused Robert Wagner of murdering Natalie Wood andym Nov 2021 #30
Kick nt XanaDUer2 Nov 2021 #31
I heard this awhile back , he was a sleazy dirtbag. 👎🤢🤮 nt Raine Nov 2021 #33
Natalie's mother was a nut, too book_worm Nov 2021 #34
Total stage mother XanaDUer2 Nov 2021 #35
Me too nt XanaDUer2 Nov 2021 #38

JustAnotherGen

(38,037 posts)
1. It's been known for years
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:28 AM
Nov 2021

In the entertainment industry. That's why no applause from me as champton of 'liberal causes' when he passed away.

LizBeth

(11,222 posts)
2. I read about this years ago and since, have felt only disgust for the man.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:38 AM
Nov 2021

And that he was able to walk thru his life to old age without this affecting him at all. What a society we live in.

MineralMan

(151,187 posts)
3. "Inside Daisy Clover," an almost forgotten movie of hers,
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 09:40 AM
Nov 2021

tells an ugly story of Hollywood's exploitation of young girls and women. It's one of my favorite movies of all time, even with its minor flaws. Worth watching.

I always wondered whether Natalie Wood took that role because of her own experience.

PatSeg

(53,206 posts)
9. I always liked that movie as well
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:11 AM
Nov 2021

Now I also wonder if her experience(s) affected her choice.

MineralMan

(151,187 posts)
11. I don't know, actually.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:29 AM
Nov 2021

She was a favorite actor of mine. One of the few to go from child actress to an adult one with some success. I have always suspected she fell victim to the 1950s Hollywood penchant for abusing young women who were actresses. "Inside Daisy Clover" was a 1965 film, for which she was nominated for a Golden Globe. However, the film was not a box office hit, and probably hit home a bit too closely.

She did some pretty important movies, actually, during her rather short career. Her portrayal as Maria in "West Side Story" almost went unnoticed, despite the success of the movie. She always seems to have just missed achieving true star status.

Her untimely and mysterious death is still really unsolved.

PatSeg

(53,206 posts)
16. Also Splendor in the Grass
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 01:47 PM
Nov 2021

and This Property is Condemned (about the same time as Daisy Clover and also co-starred Robert Redford). She made quite a few unforgettable movies.

MineralMan

(151,187 posts)
17. Yes. I never thought she was a great actor, but she
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 02:04 PM
Nov 2021

was good at it and interesting to watch. She wasn't all that glamorous, which made me like her even more. She was, if nothing else, relatable, and that's a very good thing. She had that "girl next door" sort of charm, I thought.

PatSeg

(53,206 posts)
18. Oddly enough,
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 03:08 PM
Nov 2021

I found her to be a better actor as a child. She was so natural and appealing. As an adult, she often overacted, something I've seen in other child actors when they grew up. Still, she was in some of my favorite movies and was a memorable screen presence.

MineralMan

(151,187 posts)
19. Yes. I agree. When I first saw "Miracle on 34th Street," I thought
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 03:15 PM
Nov 2021

she was marvelous as the little girl. I also liked her Maria in "West Side Story." Sadly, her voice got dubbed by someone else. She actually had a decent voice on he own, but...

She got really upstaged by Ruth Gordon in "Inside Daisy Clover." Gordon won the Best Supporting Actress Oscar in that movie. But, Natalie Wood, I thought, did a great job in her role in that, as well. It was a bit shocking for audiences at the time, I remember, which sort of hurt the box office for the film, but I remember thinking that she understood the character really well. Probably because she could relate to it better than we knew.

Later, she dropped pretty much out of acting for quite some time. I wonder if she was having difficult personal problems during that period. I imagine so.

PatSeg

(53,206 posts)
20. Oh yes, she was amazing in "Miracle on 34th Street"
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 03:37 PM
Nov 2021

Shortly after "West Side Story", she was able to use her own voice in "Gypsy", which brought her some satisfaction.

It is possible that audiences might not have been ready for "Inside Daisy Clover" at the time. It probably would have done better a few years later. This was when movies like "Sound of Music", "My Fair Lady", and "Mary Poppins" were big box office, as well as superficial romantic comedies with people like Doris Day.

I just found this on IMDB, which confirms that she was having personal problems at the time:

Inside Daisy Clover was made smack dab between two of Natalie Wood's suicide attempts (November 1964 and January 1966). She got through the filming with pills and daily analysis. This makes the fact that her character carries out an abortive suicide attempt all the more poignant.


It must have really been tough for her making that film.

MineralMan

(151,187 posts)
21. Ah...yes.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 04:20 PM
Nov 2021

I'm guessing the movie role hit too close to home for safety.

I had forgotten about "Gypsy," another favorite.

PatSeg

(53,206 posts)
22. Yes, there were more Natalie Wood movies
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 04:31 PM
Nov 2021

than I'd remembered. I loved "Gypsy".

Making "Daisy Clover" must have been torture for her.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
37. I really think Inside Daisy Clover was a great film.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 05:25 PM
Nov 2021

I would have never gone to see it then, (I was 12 and was more interested in Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon beach blanket movies) but I was on an airplane where it was shown. Airplane showings was where movies went if they were unsuccessful at the box office back then.

I've seen it a few more times and, of course I understood it better as I got older.

XanaDUer2

(15,770 posts)
4. An actress named Jean Spangler went missing
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 10:30 AM
Nov 2021

There was a connection to Douglas at the time.

XanaDUer2

(15,770 posts)
8. Yes, weird case
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:06 AM
Nov 2021

There was suspicions she was having an abortion. Iirc, Douglas was the one who contacted the police to assure them he was not the Kirk referred to in her letter.

She was never found

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
36. There was a note to someone named Kirk.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 05:08 PM
Nov 2021

Doesn't prove it was Kirk Douglas, and it's not clear what it meant.

And why was she still carrying it? Whoever Kirk was, he didn't get it. I'm not saying he's innocent, just that I don't think the note really proves anything. Odd case.

obamanut2012

(29,346 posts)
6. Nope, this has been an open secret for years
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:03 AM
Nov 2021

And, Lana promised her sister she would tell the world after Kirk Douglas died. This is also has been an open secret.

He was well known for raping actresses and staffers.

hamsterjill

(17,557 posts)
12. Yeah, I'll wait to hear Kirk Douglas' side...
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:34 AM
Nov 2021

Oh, wait, that's right. He's not here to defend himself.

Anything for someone to make a buck these days. Telling it now doesn't really solve anything other than that, now does it?

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
23. Well yes, a publisher hopes to sell a book but
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 04:45 PM
Nov 2021

Kirk Douglas allegedly raped Natalie Wood among others. The two are not mutually exclusive. Her sister's point of view is probably pretty compelling.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
29. He was already given one. The statute of limitations
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 03:39 PM
Nov 2021

was long passed on this crime. He was protected by the Hollywood patriarchy. That's the story. You want to defend Harvey Weinstein too?

RobinA

(10,478 posts)
13. In A Previous Life
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 12:18 PM
Nov 2021

I was a paralegal for a major computer corporation. Prior to my working there, Kirk Douglass had a lawsuit against the company, I have no idea why. The lawyer who worked on the case stated that Douglass was the most awful human being he had ever met. I have no dog in that hunt, but it did stick with me.

OK, I looked it up. Douglass was a spokesperson for one computer company that merged with another computer company and as such he was no longer the spokesperson after the merger. I worked for the resulting company.

Response to gldstwmn (Reply #24)

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
27. Not that I don't believe her, but why did she wait until he was dead?
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 08:16 PM
Nov 2021

Douglas lived to be one-hundred-and-fucking-three. There was plenty of time to expose him when he was alive. If he was really a horrible monster, he deserved to taken down when he was living. Now he’ll never face any sort of justice for what he did. It made zero sense to wait this long to bring this story to public attention.

andym

(6,064 posts)
30. FYI, Lana Wood also has accused Robert Wagner of murdering Natalie Wood
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:22 PM
Nov 2021

Here's an older story, but it certainly is in the new book as well. The accusations against famed actors alone will make the book a best seller.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/09/14/natalie-wood-murdered-robert-wagner-say-sister-witness-dr-phil/1304231002/

"The death of movie star Natalie Wood four decades ago continues to fascinate the media and now the "Dr. Phil" show has joined in, hosting the yacht skipper who now claims Wood was murdered and Wood's sister who accuses her ex-brother-in-law, actor Robert Wagner, of doing it."

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
34. Natalie's mother was a nut, too
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 01:17 PM
Nov 2021

allowing her daughter to meet privately with a older man in a hotel room in hopes that he could further her career.

It must have been tough for her when they met up in later years:

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