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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums$3.95 a gallon...
...for mid-grade today...
...why so much for gasoline?
...what could it be?
...are the New-England fuel-oil stocks down?
...is there a new war starting in the Middle East?
...did a hurricane destroy Texas refining capacity?
...is it changing from summer to winter blends?
...did a major pipeline break or get hacked?
...did OPEC cut their oil production?
...are we being fucked by wall-street and the oil companies?
...what could it be?
...
Walleye
(44,807 posts)jimfields33
(19,382 posts)Chille
(193 posts)feeling it
MenloParque
(566 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)I'm not walking 50 miles to work one way and back. Until I can find an electric car I like, or we can expand public transportation where I live to the Greater NYC area -
It is what it is.
We should have been working on this a decade ago.
Midnight Writer
(25,410 posts)orwell
(8,003 posts)...it is a manipulated market.
There is a global cartel without a strict cartel structure.
Just look at the futures charts for your answer.
The partial good news is that the futures price is starting to soften.
Also remember that a significant portion of the pump price is taxes.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)Gas taxes have almost doubled around Illinois so I suppose that needs to be factored into any historical price comparisons.
2naSalit
(102,804 posts)If you have to use premium, it's that much a gallon in Montana but in Idaho, where I have to go for dentist treatments, it's between $4 and $5/gal. all along the way. Glad I can make the round trip on 1.5 tanks = 24 gallons, so I top off when I leave town and when in the city I go to where it's cheapest, I buy about eight gallons, enough to get to Montana and cheaper gas where I top it off again. Each round trip is about $100.
Glad I only have to go this last time next week, it's a six hour drive with three mountain passes to cross each way. Got snow coming next week so traveling gets a little dicey at that point.
WHITT
(2,868 posts)Looks like they want their Don Don back too.
multigraincracker
(37,651 posts)Just takes a little more planning on my part.
Ka-Dinh Oy
(11,686 posts)Well, that is for me because I will not put anything in my car other than Chevoron or Shell.
The Cheveron were I get mine is 3.89 and is the least expensive of all of the Cheverons and Shells in my close area.
It has been going up little by little. It stays the same for a few weeks then goes up. It is nice that it does not change every few days....at least in my close area.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)True Dough
(26,674 posts)The powers-that-be, primarily OPEC, are getting those lost profits back now.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Bengus81
(10,165 posts)Not to mention Oil Companies make a fortune in the bargain.
Timewas
(2,739 posts)JCMach1
(29,202 posts)Silent3
(15,909 posts)The supply chain effect on gas prices doesn't affect me much, but the supply chain for parts kept me without my paid-off Volt for over a month, driving a gas-guzzling Chevy Malibu loaner car in the meantime. I didn't drive it much, however.
JCMach1
(29,202 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(3,163 posts)moondust
(21,288 posts)I don't know about them all but those in Europe have a lot of public transportation available.
RANDYWILDMAN
(3,163 posts)moondust
(21,288 posts)U.K. has been having a lot of gas troubles lately but I don't know how much is related to natural gas or whatever.
Four more UK energy suppliers go bust amid high gas prices
maxsolomon
(38,729 posts)Algeria just cut NG pipeline to Morocco and hence Spain.
The British have a trucking crisis.
Gazprom is squeezing to get the EU to acquiesce to Putin's neo-Imperial Authoritarianism.
All of that plays in to the price of a barrel of oil.
SKKY
(12,801 posts)durablend
(9,270 posts)Somehow or we're *fucked* next year.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,198 posts)sir pball
(5,340 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Why would you pump it?
Ron Green
(9,870 posts)It can move you and a whole bunch of your stuff 30 MILES (more or less), uphill and down, for the cost of a cup of latte. Its cheaper than bottled water, but can do an enormous amount of work, and weve gotten so used to its power that we think it isnt dirt cheap.
Its now MORE than 50 years since the wake up call of Earth Day, and people who werent even born then (perhaps you, Gentle Reader) dont seem to understand that cheap gas (and the lies about it) have enslaved us all.
leftyladyfrommo
(20,005 posts)Retrograde
(11,419 posts)It's between 4.50 and $5 on the SF peninsula
Maybe this is the impetus to get people in the US to actually consider improving mass transit in urban areas. I know it's not a solution for everyone, but if we can just eliminate maybe 10% of car trips in metropolitan areas it would be a good start.
(Yeah, I have a car, and I use it occasionally. We mostly managed to get by with only one vehicle in this household, but we're lucky to live in a walkable neighborhood)
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)An economic pundit on the tv asked the question to oil company execs and one of the answers was un-effin'-believable.
Blamed the weather we had a couple of weeks ago. It rained 5 inches and did a little damage to machinery.
It wasn't the only item on the list of causes but it was emphasized.
Johnny2X2X
(24,210 posts)To cover the cost of gas. We're only looking at the costs of drilling, refining, and transporting it, but the costs to clean up the environment should be paid by the consumers too.
Amishman
(5,929 posts)the solution to reducing gas usage is better battery tech and obsolete internal combustion engines with superior performance with electric tools and vehicles. Make them want to replace it by bringing something far better to market.
We're so close too, just need better batteries than lithium, preferably using more easily obtainable materials. aluminum ion batteries show promise on paper but need to be perfected.
Johnny2X2X
(24,210 posts)I was just pointing out how we don't pay the "real" cost of gasoline.
And EVs are on the cusp of being superior to ICEs in every possible way. We'll get to that this decade. They're going to be cheaper to build, they're already safer, better performing, and more reliable. Convenience is the hang up in perception only right now, I know people who own EVs, they never need charging stations because their EVs are charging every night in their garages.
fescuerescue
(4,475 posts)It's cheap compared to Europe.
And it keeps cars off the road. Less Global warming.
newdayneeded
(2,493 posts)Titled "how to ruin a presidency"
Your point matches item #1
1. have all the big oil players continue to artificially raise prices...check
2. have a couple of turn coats in congress, bluedogs in the past, two individuals today....check
3. Have the media jump everytime Biden burps....check
4. Have a huge system of right wing radio echoing misinfo about every political and medical topic.....check (for 30 years now)